Popular Post Jay 37,359 Posted February 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2022 Quote This year, he will complete what he expects to be his final two films: “The Fabelmans,” loosely based on Spielberg’s childhood, and a fifth installment in the “Indiana Jones” series. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/arts/music/john-williams-hollywood-film.html Edmilson, Falstaft, karelm and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Are we to assume he’s already started Indy 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 We don't know. My personal speculation is that he would prefer to not start on it until after The Fabelmans is recorded -- and that is recording in LA next month. So I think his 2022 will go something like this: early March: Record The Fabelmans March 10-15ish: Vienna trip late March through early April: write some Indiana Jones 5 second half of April: Concerts in Philadelphia and New York May through early June: Write some more Indiana Jones 5 June 20-25ish: Washington DC trip July and early August: Finishing writing Indiana Jones 5, and record it late August: Tanglewood trip michael_grig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I cannot open the article for some reason, but that quote is depressing. He is confirming that this is it for film scoring? This is a big announcement, if accurate. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tom said: I cannot open the article for some reason You can read the article here. 11 minutes ago, Tom said: , but that quote is depressing. He is confirming that this is it for film scoring? This is a big announcement, if accurate. "if accurate"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I did not see the other thread dedicated to this--I will post there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Alex said: Are we to assume he’s already started Indy 5? 10 minutes ago, Jay said: We don't know. Here's what Jon Burlingame wrote in yesterday's Variety article: Quote Williams is also working on the score for the fifth “Indiana Jones” movie, slated for release in mid-2023. "Is also working" = "Has already started"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Hmm, I'd say its unclear. It could mean he has already composed some music. It could just be Burlingame saying he's definitively going to write it. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 But Williams did say in Berlin that upon a return home he would begin working on this score. That was 4 months ago. michael_grig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Ah yes, that's right! Of course, the delay of the film from July 2022 to June 2023 was announced a couple days later, so that could have changed plans As in, perhaps Mangold said "nevermind, we're not as rushed any more - go do Fabelmans then we'll reconvene". Who knows. Fabulin and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Tom said: I cannot open the article for some reason, but that quote is depressing. He is confirming that this is it for film scoring? This is a big announcement, if accurate. I agree with you that part of me is sad to hear this but by all accounts, JW will not retire. This might mean he just won't score films, but I have no doubt that as long as he's around and capable, our Johnny will continue to create new music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,658 Posted February 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2022 Yeah, I have settled down a bit. I did not see the other thread and was shocked with the implications of this quote. I love his concert works, so I am would love nothing more for a couple more concertos. My favorite concert work is for seiji. I would love a non-concerto-type work too. However, a magnum opus piano concerto would be the perfect capstone to his career from brilliant pianist to brilliant composer. Martinland, michael_grig and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I wonder how much score JW has written to already edited footage. Either way, Mangold says editing begins in earnest today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I wonder how much score JW has written to already edited footage. Either way, Mangold says editing begins in earnest today I would say nothing. With the confirmation of the Fabelmans as his current project, I think Indy work will commence in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 He probably recorded The Fabelmans before he left for Vienna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,477 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, Jay said: He probably recorded The Fabelmans before he left for Vienna So he has already left for Vienna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 I honestly don't know, but if the concert is Saturday night, I doubt he's leaving California any later than Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Jay said: He probably recorded The Fabelmans before he left for Vienna Would we not have heard about it if he was recording something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Alex said: Would we not have heard about it if he was recording something? maybe he recorded it on Kamino Smeltington and Luke Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Alex said: Would we not have heard about it if he was recording something? The LA Recording Arts Symphony is very discreet. It is not like these gossipy, small town orchestras. These blabbermouths go on and on to anyone they meet about their recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom said: The LA Recording Arts Symphony is very discreet. It is not like these small town orchestras. These blabbermouths go on and on to anyone they meet about their recordings. Lest we forget how the Obi-Wan session leaked…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 I don't necessarily think we'd hear if they were recording the score, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Well sure not necessarily but it’s certainly been common for us to learn about sessions from social media posts of musicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 Aye, but this time they might have made everyone who entered the studio sign an NDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 14 hours ago, Fabulin said: maybe he recorded it on Kamino Hehe good joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/p/CcqUZu4JqOO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Wonder if this means they’ll start recording soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Eek. Maybe. Who knows how far along he is or when he started. They might record in piecemeal again like the SW sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, Remco said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CcqUZu4JqOO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Wonder if this means they’ll start recording soon. Yeah, without knowing when he actually started scoring, it is hard to know. However, a piecemeal sort of thing would be likely if he is actually recording soon. The cool thing, either way, is Marshall's fanboy love of Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Just remembered he canceled his Chicago concerts in June due to a film commitment and we know Fabelmans is done, so I assume he'll either be recording Indy by then or recording soon enough afterward that he needed more time in his schedule to prepare. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Just remembered he canceled his Chicago concerts in June due to a film commitment and we know Fabelmans is done, so I assume he'll either be recording Indy by then or recording soon enough afterward that he needed more time in his schedule to prepare. He probably has to fly to Japan or something… MikeH, Will, crumbs and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 It would most likely take him 3months plus to write a score for an IJ movie wouldn’t it? I can’t imagine he’s even half way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Mangold started his director's cut at the start of March. It's definitely possible they've held the first spotting session by now, seeing as Williams likely finished Fabelmans weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Eek. Maybe. Who knows how far along he is or when he started. They might record in piecemeal again like the SW sequels. I get the impression JW only does things like that these days, particularly when working with directors other than Spielberg (who I imagine still edits in the traditional sense and isn't doing constant reshoots, at least not for passion projects like Fabelmans). The pressure of working in the modern Hollywood blockbuster movie-making style does not suit a 90-year old man who is working half the amount of hours he was in his prime, and especially not someone with such high standards. I imagine he only said yes to IJ5 under the condition he could take his time writing, even if that means starting with an almost entirely different movie to what we'll end up seeing (á la Rise of Skywalker, if the rumours around that film are to be believed). crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,359 Posted May 20, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2022 John Williams is writing Indiana Jones "right now", per Mike Matessino, 1:14:20 into this podcast https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2022/05/20/spacecamp-presumed-innocent-podcast/ Pawel P., BuzzLightyear, mrbellamy and 11 others 10 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 If you strain hard enough, you can hear his pencil scratching across the paper! Edmilson and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I AM LOVING THIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 🆒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,127 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 This is really historically important, if he does indeed retire from film after Fabelmans and Indy 5. I just love hearing this. Love it! karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,286 Posted May 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2022 It's wild to think that 10 years ago I was just happy he was doing Lincoln. If you told me in May 2012 that in a few months Disney would buy Lucasfilm and John Williams would be writing Star Wars and Indiana Jones music into his 90s I would have told you to get out of my face. Falstaft, Not Mr. Big, Jay and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 I was already preparing for Williams last score with Indy 4 in 2007 Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,441 Posted May 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, King Mark said: I was already preparing for Williams last score with Indy 4 in 2007 Thank goodness Kingdom of the Crystal Skull wasn't the last movie he scored. Raiders of the SoundtrArk, JTN, enderdrag64 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: It's wild to think that 10 years ago I was just happy he was doing Lincoln. If you told me in May 2012 that in a few months Disney would buy Lucasfilm and John Williams would be writing Star Wars and Indiana Jones music into his 90s I would have told you to get out of my face. Your past self would probably be more interested in the "time travel is real" part to be honest Edmilson, crumbs and MikeH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 No, I've known that for awhile But I've said too much Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Writing? Oh, right I forgot..." Williams don't type" 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,107 Posted May 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2022 I remember praying that he be able to finish the prequel trilogy.... JTN, BrotherSound, 1977 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Let's hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Edmilson said: Thank goodness Kingdom of the Crystal Skull wasn't the last movie he scored. That's true for any movie he scored regardless of the movie quality bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 We know Williams read the script early on so he may have developed some themes early into the film's production, but I'm glad that he's able to attack the bulk of this score now with the film in post and all the filming completed while cuts of sequences are slowly being delivered to him. Sounds like he won't be rushed a ton and will have more adequate time to send-off Indy in a more cohesive way than he did the Star Wars ST. Should bode really well for the final product. Andy and Amer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,127 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 I hope so. This one really matters to me personally. I am a ridiculously huge fan of Indiana Jones. I really hope whatever is written, it is developed and performed with enthusiasm and a celebration of all things Jones, without the re-use of old sequences that plagued Crystal Skull (yes I even like that movie. ) Once and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 I wonder how much JW has written for this so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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