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John Williams' Piano Concerto for Emmanuel Ax - Premieres Saturday, July 26, 2025


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10 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

Can listen to the broadcast here

When is the broadcast?

I'm confuzed with all the different timezones..

Posted
7 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

When is the broadcast?

I'm confuzed with all the different timezones..

 

Should be midnight UTC I think.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

Should be midnight UTC I think.

oh! It will be 3 a.m. here. I will be sleeping!

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I'm at Tanglewood! Gorgeous night for a concert. 

 

Just met @Maestro at a book signing for his book, which sold out!

 

If anybody wants to meet up, I'm not sure where the best spot is...

Posted

I haven't been here early enough to walk around the grounds in so long. Forgot how cool of a place this is

Heading to the beer garden near the left side entrance to the shed

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I have very fond memories of Tanglewood. The only time I visited was for a JW concert in 2005. It was also my first time outside of Ireland. That was quite an adventure for my first time abroad! Hope everyone there has a great time.

Posted

Drats, I missed the first movement and 99% of the second. I somehow thought it was starting later. Anyway, I am enjoying the third movement. Lots of energy, and a great finish - which just happened as I was typing this. It was pretty short - five minutes or less? I remember reading the whole concerto was approx. 15 minutes.

 

Well, that leaves lots of room for some extra goodies on the CD!

Posted

I started recording too late; only got the last movement and a half :(

Posted

This was fun! More than I would have expected from a Williams concerto, to be honest. Exciting finale, and the whole thing seemed rather brisk and "short" (in a good way, I guess). Might well be worth a trip to Berlin next year.

 

The commentator on WCRB described Williams showing a "gesture familiar to visitors of the Boston Pops concerts" (or something to that effect), and he wouldn't have had to continue describing which gesture he meant. ;)

Posted

Astonishing from start to finish. Certainly more towards the ‘accessible’ side of his concert output, and the JW sound was unmistakably there throughout. So many film scores popped into my head - mostly A.I., I reckon, and certainly some CMIYC in that last movement. Can’t wait to hear it again tomorrow, it’s very late now. 
How amazing we’re talking about a brand new piece written by someone who was born when Edward Elgar was still alive!!

Posted
1 hour ago, Damien F said:

I have very fond memories of Tanglewood. The only time I visited was for a JW concert in 2005. It was also my first time outside of Ireland. That was quite an adventure for my first time abroad! Hope everyone there has a great time.

I was there that night - with Josh Groban making his second or third Tanglewood appearance, right?

 

And the film montage including the film version of The Arrival of Tink and the Flight to Neverland.

1 hour ago, Jay said:

I haven't been here early enough to walk around the grounds in so long. Forgot how cool of a place this is

Heading to the beer garden near the left side entrance to the shed

 

How close was your seat? Got a pic of the Maestro on stage for applause?

46 minutes ago, BachSkywalker said:

Wow. that last movement is phenomenal. Lots of shades of Prokofiev, and a little bit of action cues from his film scores. Really great piece. Loved it. Can't wait for the official recording!

 

Yep the tympani thumps at the end similar to Adventures of Mutt.

Posted

Loved the Concerto. As I've been listening to Art Tatum, Bill Evans and Oscar Peterson regularly for over an year now, I kind of could hear them in their respective movements. Not so much their playing, but some sort of musical portrait of them and their musicality (if that makes any sense).

Posted
1 hour ago, Jay said:

Yes, might be my favorite concerto of his.

Wow! Your able to say that after listening only once? Its way to early for me to form strong opinions on this Concerto yet. I will need to listen to it more times, but i will probably love it like i do all the other Concertos. 
But i only started loving pieces like the Cello Concerto after listening many times and understanding them way better, so i could never rate this Piano Concerto so soon.
 

30 minutes ago, Tom said:

Up to this point, I think his best thrill-ride piece of this sort was the last movement of Soundings.

I was reminded of Soundings as well a bit, it also had those upward shooting strings. 

 

Posted

So, I listenet to it!

As I was afraid, it was atonal all the way through!

And I'm afraid I didn't "connect" to it, as I haven't with other Williams atonal concert music.

And anyway, shouldn't there be any themes, even atonal ones in a concerto?

I didn't hear any repeated thematic figures, so as to grab onto something..

I'm sorry that I don't share the enthusiasm, but of course I appreciate the fact that such an old man, could write all this!

 

Posted

is there any estimate on when they would release the score for this? I'm assuming Ax is playing it a few more times before they allows public access

Posted
1 minute ago, filmmusic said:

So, I listenet to it!

As I was afraid, it was atonal all the way through!

And I'm afraid I didn't "connect" to it, as I haven't with other Williams atonal concert music.

And anyway, shouldn't there be any themes, even atonal ones in a concerto?

I didn't hear any repeated thematic figures, so as to grab onto something..

I'm sorry that I don't share the enthusiasm, but of course I appreciate the fact that such an old man, could write all this!

 

I dont know what you expected? Why is it with every new concert work by Williams some people are still getting there hopes up he would suddenly write a totally uncharacteristic, Romantic, crowd pleasing concerto. 
A shame though you are not able to appreciate his concert output. 

Btw, even though this Concerto is probably more impressionistic and free then something like his Violin Concerto No.1, there are definitely recouring motifs and elements. I could pick out a few things on first listen, but will need more listenings too understand the whole piece better. The motifs are just way more subtle and varied in complex ways, rather then there being a clear "Theme". 

Also, this piece is not really atonal all the way through, not in the true sense of the word anyway. Labeling the pieces as "atonal," as if they all belong in some sort of completely seperate category, all written in a specific musical language or system, might just be a contributing factor to the barrier you seem to feel toward Williams' concert works.

Posted
1 hour ago, filmmusic said:

So, I listenet to it!

As I was afraid, it was atonal all the way through!

And I'm afraid I didn't "connect" to it, as I haven't with other Williams atonal concert music.

And anyway, shouldn't there be any themes, even atonal ones in a concerto?

I didn't hear any repeated thematic figures, so as to grab onto something..

I'm sorry that I don't share the enthusiasm, but of course I appreciate the fact that such an old man, could write all this!

 

 

I haven’t listened to the concerto myself, but I’m rather interested since you describe it “atonal”. Of course, this type of descriptor for a work that sounds, to our ears, disjointed doesn’t actually mean that the work lacks a clear direction or the musical language would make Schoenberg or late period Stravinsky proud. I’m becoming more and more familiar with Williams’ concert works and some of these pieces grabbed me immediately and some of them I don’t much care for like his Violin Concerto No. 1 (but...I LOVE his Violin Concerto No. 2, so go figure!).

 

I’m going to hold off listening to this Piano Concerto and I’ll just wait for the recording (whenever that may be).

Posted
39 minutes ago, Jesse said:

I dont know what you expected? Why is it with every new concert work by Williams some people are still getting there hopes up he would suddenly write a totally uncharacteristic, Romantic, crowd pleasing concerto. 

I don't understand why he wouldn't.. It's not that he hasn't written any tonal concert music. I love, for example, his elegy for cello.

This could be neo-romantic, or neo-classic, or impressionistic, or I don't know what else..

Anyway, I'll listen to it again of course, but if something doesn't grab me on first listen, it usually won't grab me on subsequent listens..

Posted

Haven't heard it yet. But comments here seem to match my experience that often these more challenging concertos are best experienced live. The reception by those who were present seems much more positive. Some musical pieces just require the space of a concert hall. 

Posted
4 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

The reception by those who were present seems much more positive.

 

A large part of it is probably due to justification; the need to justify money and time spent on the concert.

Posted
1 hour ago, filmmusic said:

Anyway, I'll listen to it again of course, but if something doesn't grab me on first listen, it usually won't grab me on subsequent listens..

 

I'm actually the opposite - not to imply any positive or negative inferences, just noting that some of my favorite pieces were pieces that didn't grab me on the first listen or first several listens, and I'm glad I took the time to listen more times with more attention. Sometimes it's simply because whatever I was expecting couldn't possibly bear any real relation to the finished piece - otherwise, I'd be John Williams or any of my other favorite musicians. For me, there's often some level of "Well I wasn't quite expecting that", and then it takes some time until that piece or album or soundtrack or song begins to feel like it belongs as part of the artists' output rather than existing outside that body of work in my mind.

 

During the livestream, I only caught the final movement, but my initial reaction was positive. I liked the energy of the piece and its rousing Williamseque big finish.

I had a chance to listen to the other two movements since, but I was multi-tasking so it was really just background music. I hope to listen more attentively tonight.  But my overall impression was that it was more accessible than I had expected, and more accessible than Conversations, which I still haven't really warmed to. And at just 15 minutes - an average of five minutes per movement, well that's not a daunting time commitment, so I think that's a positive!

Posted

Do we know the timeframe of when JW wrote this? I ask because, if JW is still capable of writing music like this after his health episodes in recent years, then not only am I very impressed but also have hope for more music from him still to come.

Posted
8 minutes ago, artguy360 said:

Do we know the timeframe of when JW wrote this? I ask because, if JW is still capable of writing music like this after his health episodes in recent years, then not only am I very impressed but also have hope for more music from him still to come.

 

Well at least the program notes Williams wrote were recent - dated June, 2025, and show his mind is as sharp as ever. He paints a very vivid picture of walking into a jazz bar at the age of about 16. Plus the usual elegance of the written word when he puts pen to paper or fingers to keyboard.

Posted

A piano concerto is like a concerto with two orchestras competing with each other. - 24

Posted
8 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

Some musical pieces just require the space of a concert hall. 

 

This wasn't really a concert hall though, it was the Koussevitzky Music Shed, which is more or less semi open air. Maybe that was partly the reason for a somewhat uneven recording balance (as evidenced by unusually prominent woodwinds in the - mostly very fine, btw - Mahler that followed the Williams).

 

The experts will know (and remember) better, but I'm sure this wasn't all atonal. And as I mentioned earlier, I found it more accessible than most of his concertos, and also closer to his Hollywood sound than expected - just more the Hollywood sound of A.I.Minority Report & Co than that most more casual fans might expect. Still, some of the timpani writing in the finale reminded me of 1977 Star Wars.

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