Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bespin said: I just have one thing to say: If Giacchino use ghostwriters, I hope he doesn't pay them too much, because they are not very talented! Michael Giacchino.... Will and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Isn't Gia's son one of his ghostwriters? I believe he helped with Spiderman and other stuff. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 You can't really call someone credited as an additional composer a ghostwriter. They aren't the same thing. Anyway: here's his son https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12365244/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 TSMefford and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bespin said: I just have one thing to say: If Giacchino use ghostwriters, I hope he doesn't pay them too much, because they are not very talented! He even made them score a film about themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Okay, we don't know who write Giacchino's music, but are we certain these incredible track names comes really from him... at least??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Nobody else are able to come up with such stupid track names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,045 Posted February 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2022 "ghostwriter" is a term ONLY used for people who write music for another composer and then are NOT credited for doing so Giacchino has used additional composers - Andrea Datzman, Griffith Giacchino, Curtis Green, etc - but they are credited. And I mean credited in the films, and ALSO on the OST albums (if any of their cues are used on the OST album). Additionally, they get full cue sheet credit, as the correct composer turns up when searching GEMA/SABAM/BMI/ASCAP/etc. Now, He may ALSO used ghost writers at other times - who knows? But in the case of Spider-man: No Way Home, Griffith Giacchino and Curtis Green are credited very clearly That's not ghost-writing. That's fully credited additional composing. Docteur Qui, Jaaaackified and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 You went to the cinema just to photograph the credits? Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,243 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: You went to the cinema just to photograph the credits? Why, did you think he had someone else go and then didn't credit them? mstrox and Smeltington 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 That's what I feared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 972 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 For a forum that generally takes Joe Kraemer's words seriously, I'm surprised no bothered to mention the fact he did actually say in a recorded interview that Giacchino was one of the people he could say still wrote everything by themselves. Which probably used to be true, since that was years ago, and this industry has presumably gotten so ruthless to where he has to be more reliant on additional composers to meet deadlines. (And that's not even getting into the speculation regarding if someone like Tim Simonec was the one pulling all the strings in his earlier work). TSMefford and Jaaaackified 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 Wait I only knew about Mick Giacchino. There's a Griffy Giacchino too?!?! Nepotism gone mad! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 If you've heard Giachino's Apes scores, you've heard Griffith's work; He composed "Ain't That A Stinger" for the first score and "Ape's Past Is Prologue" for the second He also played Mark in Licorice Pizza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fabulin 3,505 Posted February 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Jay said: Sandy DeCrescent vs Sandy De Crescent Jo Ann Kane Music Service vs JoAnn Kane Music Services who proofreads these things!? John William Jay, mstrox and Manakin Skywalker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Not to be confused with John William the guitarist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,089 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Wait I only knew about Mick Giacchino. There's a Griffy Giacchino too?!?! Nepotism gone mad! Mick? Griffy? Who's next, Groucho? Harpo? Disco Stu and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Marian Schedenig said: Mick? Griffy? Who's next, Groucho? Harpo? Just so you know, my youngest son also goes by Griffy Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,505 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Mick? Griffy? Who's next, Groucho? Harpo? would you prefer Erich Wolfgang Amadeus Giacchino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 338 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 All the discussion about JNH - this unreleased track from Vertical Limit would probably in the case of Horner or Kamen sound a lot like Don Davis, but if a ghost writer is doing this stuff, they know their JNH sweetspots very well (amazing music): Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Jay said: He composed "Ain't That A Stinger" for the first score and "Ape's Past Is Prologue" for the second You mean Gia's son wrote the 10-minute long opening cue for the third Apes movie? That's... quite a big and important cue for someone so young to handle, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Edmilson said: You mean Gia's son wrote the 10-minute long opening cue for the third Apes movie? Yea He got equal back cover billing the previous time around too 7 minutes ago, Edmilson said: That's... quite a big and important cue for someone so young to handle, isn't it? I always thought that track was largely uneventful Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,089 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Just so you know, my youngest son also goes by Griffy Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,306 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Did you know.... When Mickey Rozsa came to Hollywood he wasn't allowed to ORCHESTRATE or CONDUCT his own scores!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 We named the cat Griffy bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Richard Penna said: You're probably talking about Troy: I This is alluded to (vaguely obviously, but still backs Karam's points up well) here: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/interview-james-horner-troy/ "The structure of the themes was the work of Randy and his crew – Conrad Pope, Eddie Karam, John Kull – so that they provided the score with a backdrop. The filmmakers wanted themes for the characters and we supplied them. There’s obviously a lot of energy, but I did not have enough time to truly work out the narrative aspect of the piece in the time allotted to me, nor did I have the time to address all the different events down to the smallest details. So I decided to pit several orchestral masses against each other, whereas in your two examples, they were in perfect harmony. Once the textural work was done, I turned to a more motivating concept : the timbres, the Bulgarian Women’s Choir, Tanja Tsarovska’s voice and the dynamic of the piece, even though it was brushed with broader strokes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 22/02/2022 at 3:05 PM, Bespin said: Okay, we don't know who write Giacchino's music, but are we certain these incredible track names comes really from him... at least??? No they do not come from just him. He's mentioned before that him and his team sometimes have competitions to come up with the punny titles. I know his music editor has come up with a few of them. I'll see if I can track down a source on that, because I can't remember where I got that from. EDIT: @Luke Skywalker was the source for this. I knew I remembered reading that on here. On 22/02/2022 at 4:09 PM, Disco Stu said: Wait I only knew about Mick Giacchino. There's a Griffy Giacchino too?!?! Nepotism gone mad! Also can't remember where I got this from either but the clicking sort of sound throughout "Enterprising Young Men" and other cues featuring Gia's Star Trek main theme have been referred to as "Griff Sticks" by Giacchino. I feel like I recall him saying it was an instrument that Griffy had made or something. Also trying to find a source on that. Lol. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted February 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 hours ago, TSMefford said: No they do not come from just him. He's mentioned before that him and his team sometimes have competitions to come up with the punny titles. I know his music editor has come up with a few of them. I'll see if I can track down a source on that, because I can't remember where I got that from. I was the source. I asked him directly in a Q&A round in one of the Film music festivals at Ubeda (2009-2010?). At that time he said that it was his music editor who made the puns. I think afterwards, it has surfaced in other interviews too. 9 hours ago, HunterTech said: (And that's not even getting into the speculation regarding if someone like Tim Simonec was the one pulling all the strings in his earlier work). He was his only orchestrator...so i supose he may have helped him with the jump from synth videogame scores to orchestral game scores. I think he gets credit in Rattatouille or UP videogame as composer, adapting Giacchinos themes. What I DID read in the net though was that Simonec Ghostwrote all of Call of Duty 2 for Graeme Revell. And seriously, that score has a Giacchinoesque sound that smells suspicious. Will, Tydirium and TSMefford 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 303 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I’ve heard about quite a few Revell scores being ghost written by other composers - does anyone have a full list of all known such scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,420 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I seem to remember a story about Giacchino and a couple other members of his team competing to come up with the "best" track titles. No idea what the source was other than reading it here at JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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