Hook - 2012 LLL program now on vinyl by Movies On Vinyl (Postponed Indefinitely)

[Toillion 213]

musiconvinyl 3 LP release for Hook coming. 
https://www.musiconvinyl.com/shop/original-soundtrack/hook-john-williams

 

Update as of June 2022:

According to MOV, they are still trying hard to make this release happen but couldn't provide an updated release date. Preorders directly from MOV haven't been cancelled but other distributors have been cancelling orders.

 

 

[Tom Guernsey 2,280]

28 minutes ago, Toillion said:

musiconvinyl 3 LP release for Hook coming. 
https://www.musiconvinyl.com/shop/original-soundtrack/hook-john-williams?fbclid=IwAR3chF25VJRB_YDAUTD0aGlc72PDTCcWTNPH8AbsbVDR0ADkRHG32Mlvgkg

Intriguing. Especially since the other vinyl release was on a different label. All we need now is for someone to put it on cd… what an interesting turn of events!

[Holko 9,499]

3 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said:

All we need now is for someone to put it on cd…

The old bad LLL was 37 tracks...

[Chewy 2,381]

And it's definitely the old 2012 LLL program:

 

[Tom Guernsey 2,280]

7 minutes ago, Holko said:

The old bad LLL was 37 tracks...

D’oh. I misread it as 37 tracks plus 20 bonus tracks which sounded like an awful lot more! The (near to) perfect expanded/complete Hook remains elusive then!

[crumbs 14,304]

What the? Why?!?

[Tom Guernsey 2,280]

48 minutes ago, crumbs said:

What the? Why?!?

People love that shit on bigger scratchable discs you have to swap every 20 minutes (approx). I don’t see the appeal aside from the cool packaging and artwork. 

[Holko 9,499]

AuDiOpHiLe

 

like those film stem rips

[Jay 37,319]

Being a fan of Hook's score is suffering.

 

Woefully incomplete OST to incomplete boot to another incomplete boot to an incomplete session leak to a poorly-produced expansion to a modern OST remaster to a modern reissue of the poorly produced expansion.

 

Sheesh!

[crumbs 14,304]

And I thought the state of Star Wars releases was bad!

 

 

What's next? Disney will release the Anthology assemblies on vinyl?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

If the 2012 expansion is still getting licensed for a new pressing this year.... seems like a bad sign...

[Brando 1,857]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Being a fan of Hook's score is suffering.

 

Woefully incomplete OST to incomplete boot to another incomplete boot to an incomplete session leak to a poorly-produced expansion to a modern OST remaster to a modern reissue of the poorly produced expansion.

 

Sheesh!

 

[mstrox 6,647]

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[Jay 37,319]

On 14/04/2022 at 8:22 AM, Chewy said:

And it's definitely the old 2012 LLL program:

 

 

They put "Music and Lyrics by" for every track on Side A, even though of course only "We Don't Wanna Grow Up" has lyrics.

 

Then it's just "Music By" for a while, until "The Banquet" and "The Neverfeast" where it's "Music and Lyrics By" again.  WTF is going on?

 

And then some tracks have a "Conducted By" credit, and some do not !?

[Faleel 5,340]

Bootleg vinyl?

[Holko 9,499]

Mike worked on the Mondo OST, any chance he redid this program competently?  Prologue (Alternate) is renamed to Trailer Music... surely he'd have called it Teaser Music.

[Jay 37,319]

35 minutes ago, Counterparts said:

Bootleg vinyl?

 

I'm sure it was as simple as Music On Vinyl asking Sony Music if they could issue the LLL program onto vinyl and Sony Music saying "sure"

 

 

34 minutes ago, Holko said:

Mike worked on the Mondo OST, any chance he redid this program competently?

 

He didn't work on this and the content is identical to the 2012 LLL CD

[Holko 9,499]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

I'm sure it was as simple as Music On Vinyl asking Sony Music if they could issue the LLL program onto vinyl and Sony Music saying "sure"

Now the question is, if there' a new expansion in the works, would they have said "nah wait a year we got something better" or just give no shits and collect the free money.

[crumbs 14,304]

5 minutes ago, Holko said:

Now the question is, if there' a new expansion in the works, would they have said "nah wait a year we got something better" or just give no shits and collect the free money.

 

I think we know the answer to that! 

 

Especially if a theoretical new expansion is stuck in approval hell. 

[Jay 37,319]

35 minutes ago, Holko said:

Prologue (Alternate) is renamed to Trailer Music...

 

Looks like there's several track title changes

 

1-01	Prologue	A1	Prologue
1-02	We Don't Wanna Grow Up	A2	We Don't Wanna Grow Up
1-03	Banning Back Home	A3	Banning Back Home
1-04	Granny Wendy	A4	Granny Wendy
1-05	The Bedroom	A5	The Bedroom
1-06	The Nursery	A6	The Nursery
1-07	The Watch	A7	The Watch
1-08	Hook-Napped	A8	Hook-Napped
1-09	A Portrait Of Wendy	A9	A Portrait Of Wendy
1-10	The Arrival Of Tink / The Flight To Neverland	A10	The Arrival Of Tink / Flight To Neverland
1-11	Presenting The Hook	B1	Presenting The Hook
1-12	Pirates!	B2	Pirates!
1-13	Hook Challenges Peter	B3	Hook Challenges Peter
1-14	From Mermaids To Lost Boys	B4	From Mermaids To Lost Boys (Expanded)
1-15	The Lost Boy Chase	B5	The Lost Boy Chase
1-16	Smee's Plan	C1	Smee's Plan (Expanded)
1-17	Pan Is Challenged	C2	Pan Is Challenged
1-18	Hook's Lesson	C3	Hook's Lesson
1-19	The Banquet	C4	The Banquet
1-20	The Never-Feast	C5	The Never-Feast
1-21	Hook's Madness	C6	Hook's Madness
1-22	Follow That Shadow	C7	Follow That Shadow
2-01	Remembering Childhood	D1	Remembering Childhood
2-02	You Are The Pan	D2	You Are The Pan
2-03	When You're Alone	D3	When You're Alone
2-04	Tink Grows Up	D4	Tink Grows Up
2-05	The Ultimate War: To War	E1	The Ultimate War: To War
2-06	The Ultimate War: The Death Of Rufio	E2	The Ultimate War: The Death Of Rufio
2-07	The Ultimate War: Sword Fight	E3	The Ultimate War: Sword Fight
2-08	Farewell Neverland	E4	Farewell Neverland (Expanded)
2-09	End Credits	F1	End Credits
2-10	Prologue (Alternate)	F2	Trailer Music
2-11	Banning Back Home (Film Version)	F3	Banning Back Home (Film Version)
2-12	Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended)	F4	Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended)
2-13	Hook's Blues	F5	Hook's Blues
2-14	Wendy Tells Peter The Truth (Partly Unused)	F6	Wendy Tells Peter The Truth (Partly Unused)
2-15	Exit Music (Unused)	F7	Exit Music (Unused)

[Chewy 2,381]

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Looks like there's several track title changes

 

1-01	Prologue	A1	Prologue
1-02	We Don't Wanna Grow Up	A2	We Don't Wanna Grow Up
1-03	Banning Back Home	A3	Banning Back Home
1-04	Granny Wendy	A4	Granny Wendy
1-05	The Bedroom	A5	The Bedroom
1-06	The Nursery	A6	The Nursery
1-07	The Watch	A7	The Watch
1-08	Hook-Napped	A8	Hook-Napped
1-09	A Portrait Of Wendy	A9	A Portrait Of Wendy
1-10	The Arrival Of Tink / The Flight To Neverland	A10	The Arrival Of Tink / Flight To Neverland
1-11	Presenting The Hook	B1	Presenting The Hook
1-12	Pirates!	B2	Pirates!
1-13	Hook Challenges Peter	B3	Hook Challenges Peter
1-14	From Mermaids To Lost Boys	B4	From Mermaids To Lost Boys (Expanded)
1-15	The Lost Boy Chase	B5	The Lost Boy Chase
1-16	Smee's Plan	C1	Smee's Plan (Expanded)
1-17	Pan Is Challenged	C2	Pan Is Challenged
1-18	Hook's Lesson	C3	Hook's Lesson
1-19	The Banquet	C4	The Banquet
1-20	The Never-Feast	C5	The Never-Feast
1-21	Hook's Madness	C6	Hook's Madness
1-22	Follow That Shadow	C7	Follow That Shadow
2-01	Remembering Childhood	D1	Remembering Childhood
2-02	You Are The Pan	D2	You Are The Pan
2-03	When You're Alone	D3	When You're Alone
2-04	Tink Grows Up	D4	Tink Grows Up
2-05	The Ultimate War: To War	E1	The Ultimate War: To War
2-06	The Ultimate War: The Death Of Rufio	E2	The Ultimate War: The Death Of Rufio
2-07	The Ultimate War: Sword Fight	E3	The Ultimate War: Sword Fight
2-08	Farewell Neverland	E4	Farewell Neverland (Expanded)
2-09	End Credits	F1	End Credits
2-10	Prologue (Alternate)	F2	Trailer Music
2-11	Banning Back Home (Film Version)	F3	Banning Back Home (Film Version)
2-12	Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended)	F4	Presenting The Hook (Film Version - Extended)
2-13	Hook's Blues	F5	Hook's Blues
2-14	Wendy Tells Peter The Truth (Partly Unused)	F6	Wendy Tells Peter The Truth (Partly Unused)
2-15	Exit Music (Unused)	F7	Exit Music (Unused)

 

Basically they added "(Expanded)" for tracks that have OST names but that are expanded compared to it. Pretty strange LLL didn't have to do that in 2012!

 

And "Prologue (Alternate)" => "Trailer Music"

[Holko 9,499]

Plus left a "The" out... because oversight?

[Bayesian 1,359]

22 hours ago, crumbs said:

22 hours ago, crumbs said:

What's next? Disney will release the Anthology assemblies on vinyl?

God forbid that should ever occur, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it did. What could be more insufferably hipster-ish (and therefore an instant must-buy) than vinyl pressings of that decidedly retro yet famous and one-of-a-kind box set?

 

20 hours ago, Holko said:

Now the question is, if there' a new expansion in the works, would they have said "nah wait a year we got something better" or just give no shits and collect the free money.

For once in my life, I’m gonna actually root for Disney being true to its grasping and rapacious nature and hope it’s the latter.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

You mean Sony, not Disney.

[Jay 37,319]

Anyone else think it's funny that the new vinyl with the OST cover is the expanded program, and the new vinyl with a brand new cover is the OST program?

[Bespin 8,480]

No

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

[Goldfingers 126]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Anyone else think it's funny that the new vinyl with the OST cover is the expanded program, and the new vinyl with a brand new cover is the OST program?

MusicOnVinyls looks rushed and messed up to me. 
If the visuals on the website are the validated and definitive visuals, it's really messed up, the track infos and the artwork covers. "Original" when it's "expanded", "Musics and lyrics by John Williams"??? etc. I wait to see the final product but i'm afraid.

 

To me, this is what happened:
- "Oh Mondo vinyls are sold out in less than a quarter of an hour ! Jackpot !" 
- "Really? What are we waiting for? More vinyls !"
- "But what more could we put in it? Which cover artwork?"
- "Everything we have ready!"
and then in chorus through Sony's offices
"Money! Money! Give us the money! Money! Money! Show us the money !" 

I think Hook deserve more efforts, re-issue or not. The Mondo release look cool because new artworks even if it don't respect totally the Hook aesthetic. Supervised by someone who know what he is doing and new liner notes by John Takis. 
I think they inverted the project charts for both releases. Mondo should be expanded and this one a simple re-issue.

 

It's funny because we've been waiting for 10 years for Hook stuffs and in less than 4 months, we have two.

But it prove that even if we get vinyls editions, they are not afraid to announce more stuffs.

What more is coming?

[Goldfingers 126]

It was already sold out but now, the announce and the order pages are gone ... What is happening?

[Jay 37,319]

maybe they take down order pages after things sell out there?

[Luke Skywalker 1,793]

Damn. 
 

give us the (complete) hook already

[Brando 1,857]

Sort of off topic, do we know who composed the music for this trailer?

 

[Goldfingers 126]

5 hours ago, Jay said:

maybe they take down order pages after things sell out there?

 

Maybe but all infos are gone now. Usually the page stay with grey "sold out" button.

 

32 minutes ago, Brando said:

Sort of off topic, do we know who composed the music for this trailer?

 

 

John Williams, The Witches of Eastwick soundtrack

 

 

[Brando 1,857]

12 minutes ago, Goldfingers said:

 

Maybe but all infos are gone now. Usually the page stay with grey "sold out" button.

 

 

John Williams, The Witches of Eastwick soundtrack

 

 

Nice!

[Toillion 213]

9 hours ago, Goldfingers said:

MusicOnVinyls looks rushed and messed up to me. 
If the visuals on the website are the validated and definitive visuals, it's really messed up, the track infos and the artwork covers. "Original" when it's "expanded", "Musics and lyrics by John Williams"??? etc. I wait to see the final product but i'm afraid.

 

To me, this is what happened:
- "Oh Mondo vinyls are sold out in less than a quarter of an hour ! Jackpot !" 
- "Really? What are we waiting for? More vinyls !"
- "But what more could we put in it? Which cover artwork?"
- "Everything we have ready!"
and then in chorus through Sony's offices
"Money! Money! Give us the money! Money! Money! Show us the money !" 

I think Hook deserve more efforts, re-issue or not. The Mondo release look cool because new artworks even if it don't respect totally the Hook aesthetic. Supervised by someone who know what he is doing and new liner notes by John Takis. 
I think they inverted the project charts for both releases. Mondo should be expanded and this one a simple re-issue.

 

It's funny because we've been waiting for 10 years for Hook stuffs and in less than 4 months, we have two.

But it prove that even if we get vinyls editions, they are not afraid to announce more stuffs.

What more is coming?

Yeah I would consider the mondo version the better version. Despite having less music on it seems like a lot more work was put into it to make sure it sounds like it should. I’ve seen a lot of comments around the internet complaining that mondo didn’t release this expanded version. 

[bollemanneke 3,338]

What wonderful news to read after a holiday in Italy! Beyond thrilled this is happening...

[Jay 37,319]

An FSMer who pre-ordered this set received this email:

 

 

Source: https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=147456&forumID=1&archive=0

[Luke Skywalker 1,793]

maybe they want to make atruly complete score....

 

 

on vinyl...

[bollemanneke 3,338]

And then LLL can transfer the vinyl to CD so we have all the clicks and pops!

[Goldfingers 126]

Pre-orders on the MusicOnVinyls are closed. That email say it is postponed but this edition is available on the french amazon website and it's announced for a release on june 2022. Now, impossible to say if it's the first release date or if it's the new date.
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B09XT6PCDF/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_RX9V634PTY041ARB8DGB 

French Fnac shops announce the same date https://www.fnac.com/a16939742/John-Williams-Hook-Vinyle-Rouge-Translucide-Vinyle-album#omnsearchpos=1

[Chewy 2,381]

So this is currently the 3rd best selling music release on Amazon.fr (https://www.amazon.fr/gp/bestsellers/music/), how does that make sense?

 

[Jay 37,319]

Most people on this planet in 2022 don't buy music, they stream it. 

 

So any new physical product is always high in that week's chart, because most of what does sell these days is collector's snatching up new releases.

[Bespin 8,480]

Buying a physical CD, is like buying stock market share, except we don't own anything, at the end...

 

But we show our interest.

 

It counts, no?

[bollemanneke 3,338]

What do you mean? You do own the music in a way. That's why I refuse to stream, everything is out of your control.

[Goldfingers 126]

It seems that 3 discs edition was a unofficial bootleg. I received an email to announce the cancellation by the label for legal reasons.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

25 minutes ago, Goldfingers said:

It seems that 3 discs edition was a unofficial bootleg. I received an email to announce the cancellation by the label for legal reasons.

 

Interesting. What label was this? Nevermind I remember.

[Goldfingers 126]

I think the label is "MusicOnVinyl". 

But I'm not certain. It is cancelled because that edition was not legal or because the website where I bought it don't have authorisation to sell it?
I ordered it on the french website Fnac and I received it like that. 

 

Quote

"For legal reasons, the label cancels and removes the "Hook Vinyl Red Translucent -- John Williams" release. 
Your pre-order cannot be honored.
We are forced to cancel it."

 

Has anyone received a similar email from other websites that were selling it?
I sent a message to MusicOnVinyl anyway to have more information. I hope they will answer fast.

[Amer 2,080]

Maybe something happened in good sort of a way...

[bollemanneke 3,338]

Yes, LLl's 3 CD set being announced just yesterday. Oh wait, that was a dream.

[Toillion 213]

On 1/6/2022 at 6:22 PM, Goldfingers said:

 

Has anyone received a similar email from other websites that were selling it?
I sent a message to MusicOnVinyl anyway to have more information. I hope they will answer fast.

I received this update from MOV. 
 

Thank you for your message.  We're still working hard to make the Hook release happen, but sadly we have no additional information on a possible release date yet. Sorry for the inconvenience. As soon as we know more, we'll make sure to immediately update every customer that ordered this item.