Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)

[Jay 32,104]

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/04/obi-wan-kenobi-composer-natalie-holt-john-williams/

[Brando 1,065]

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"You mentioned that you’re a violinist. Do you perform in the score, or are you strictly composing?

I do! Actually, I am singing and I’m playing viola. And I’m playing some violin in there too. So yeah, I am performing on the score."

 

 

That's pretty cool.

 

[Brando 1,065]

I think the thread should titled 'Natalie Holt's Benny (2022)'

[SilverTrumpet 565]

Never actually heard anything I've liked from her, but I'll keep an open mind.

[Bespin 7,011]

Violin solos by James Ehnes!!!

 

[Thor 5,972]

Good to have a composer confirmed, and that it's not any of my "Unholy Three" (Giacchino, Göransson, Desplat).

 

In terms of her solo score work, I think I've only sampled LOKI. That did absolutely nothing for me. I liked bits and pieces of JOURNEY'S END that she did with Hildur Gudnadottir.

 

But basically, she's a tabula rasa to me. So I'll await any judgement untill the series is out.

[Bespin 7,011]

The heirs of John Williams are british!

[Andy 2,566]

Somebody is quite proud of their hunting horn.   I am all for bringing in new tones or acoustic oddities.  
 

I am less enthusiastic about 

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We’re also blending the orchestra with some more modern synths sounds as well.

Which just doesn’t sound as innovative as Holt might like it to.  I mean, that’s what everyone does now. 

[Thor 5,972]

Depends on what type of synths or blend it is. I could picture some Vangelis-like elements in an Obi-Wan story. If it's just blending in typical RC fashion, it's nothing new. Time will show!

[p0llux 299]

 

What she mean 250 horns and flutes? lol

[Richard Penna 2,639]

Interesting, but I think inevitable given recent hints.

 

So this means that Disney isn't fussed about having a known composer on this, and that either JW has seen something in her that he likes/trusts, or she's not using his theme in the body of the score.

[Not Mr. Big 4,244]

2 minutes ago, Andy said:

Somebody is quite proud of their hunting horn.   I am all for bringing in new tones or acoustic oddities.  
 

I am less enthusiastic about 

Which just doesn’t sound as innovative as Holt might like it to.  I mean, that’s what everyone does now. 

I'm hoping the electronics are organically "weaved in" to the orchestral music rather than the other way around.  

[crocodile 7,096]

A decade ago I would kill for some woodwinds in a film score. But this...this is bit...much.

 

Karol

[Andy 2,566]

Hopefully Holt will use JW’s material as a building block like Powell did.  The way they described allowing Johnny to record a theme for Benny was rather “Oh, okay. We have to let him just because. “. Or maybe I’m reading into it. 

[nfjfnedjfdjd 13]

 

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[crocodile 7,096]

Brian Tyler cited Raiders and stuff like that as inspirations for his Avengers score. This doesn't really mean anything anymore.

 

Hope Natalie does well. But I am not expecting much. Might listen to a bit of Loki later. Can't really recall much of it from the show beyond general vibe.

 

Karol

 

 

[rough cut 1,470]

Good to finally have a name.

 

Also:

 

JW has had nothing to do with this decision, he has neither approved her nor denied other composers to come aboard.

[LSH 838]

Ok. Not who I wanted but the super long wait for an announcment eventually made me feel somewhat indifferent.

 

Still, looking forward to hearing what she has done. Open mind and all that.

[MedigoScan 277]

Loki was a very good soundtrack if you ask me.

[mstrox 5,889]

1 hour ago, p0llux said:

 

What she mean 250 horns and flutes? lol

 

[Jurassic Shark 9,810]

1 hour ago, crocodile said:

Hope Natalie does well. But I am not expecting much.

 

Because she's a woman?

[mstrox 5,889]

Because she has to use some other schmoe’s theme.

[MrJosh 770]

I've been meaning to listen to Loki outside of the show, but that is the only of Holt's music I have heard. 

 

She should really write a suite of music and call it Holt's The Planets, great pun opportunity there. 

[Jurassic Shark 9,810]

5 minutes ago, mstrox said:

Because she has to use some other schmoe’s theme.

 

One would think it would be easier not to start with a completely blank canvas.

[Holko 8,228]

Haven't seen Loki but listened to it when the rumors started and liked quite a bit of it, some good ideas. Looking forward to this! More than the show itself for sure.

[j39m 58]

2 hours ago, p0llux said:

What she mean 250 horns and flutes? lol

You know that thing that Hans Zimmer does where he assembles all the trombone players of a small nation-state in the Budokan and has them play deep unisons? This is the generalized form.

[mstrox 5,889]

I liked Holt’s score for Loki and thought it fit the show very well.  I don’t expect to hear anything like it next month in Obi-wan.

[Evanus 189]

Loki didn't do much for me and neither did the stuff on her site, so my expectations are pretty low. I'm bummed they didn't go for someone like Powell, JNH or Silvestri etc. Oh well, at least we're getting another theme from Williams which will be awesome no doubt.

[Jurassic Shark 9,810]

1 hour ago, rough cut said:

JW has had nothing to do with this decision, he has neither approved her nor denied other composers to come aboard.

 

Did he tell you that?

[Jurassic Shark 9,810]

2 hours ago, Andy said:

Which just doesn’t sound as innovative as Holt might like it to.  I mean, that’s what everyone does now. 

 

Duh. She's not saying it's innovative; she's just commenting on how close her score is to a traditional Star Wars score.

[Pawel P. 652]

Do you think that due to the fact that Obi Wan's theme was composed by Williams, there is a chance for a CD release?

[Bespin 7,011]

3 minutes ago, Pawel P. said:

Do you think that due to the fact that Obi Wan's theme was composed by Williams, there is a chance for a CD release?

 

We'll put the J-Team on this!

[Jurassic Shark 9,810]

Bes will be the guy we'll have to bust out from a mental asylum.

 

7 minutes ago, Pawel P. said:

Do you think that due to the fact that Obi Wan's theme was composed by Williams, there is a chance for a CD release?

 

We can only hope. Soon, even JW's name won't be a guarantee for a physical release.

[LSH 838]

Well LucasFilm Disney must be happy with what's been recorded, since it's now far too late to replace her.

 

Balfe's still got his phone on loud nearby, no doubt.

[artguy360 1,723]

She said it will be reminiscent of the Star Wars tradition of music. I'm curious hear what that sounds like.

[Jurassic Shark 9,810]

Will she make inappropriate love themes for siblings? If so, I'm good.

[crocodile 7,096]

1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

Because she's a woman?

Because scoring a SW property is hard enough. Having one where you have to adapt JW's theme is an extremely difficult task for any musician. Even people as well versed as, say, Don Davis stumble in that department. At least Ludwig didn't have to do that and went in a completely different direction.

 

Karol

[Jay 32,104]

1 hour ago, Pawel P. said:

Do you think that due to the fact that Obi Wan's theme was composed by Williams, there is a chance for a CD release?

 

Nah

[GerateWohl 2,856]

OK. Now the question pops up, why was that information kept a secret for such a long time?

Anyway, it's not bad news so far.

But I still don't expect anything special or great. The aera of the great scores is over anyway.

[Jurassic Shark 9,810]

Any great score nowadays is an anomaly.

[GerateWohl 2,856]

Let's face it to get this right. When Williams wrote Star Wars he was already in the business for more than 20 years, had worked with all the greats, had won two academy awards, had written a symphony and lots of other concert work. So, in best case Holt is now in a level like Williams in the mid 60s. In best case! So, adjust your expectations.

I am sure, she will do the job OK like most professional composers at her level would do. But I don't expect a miracle.

[Not Mr. Big 4,244]

I wonder how TGP feels about this...

[Jurassic Shark 9,810]

Isn't he banned?

 

12 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

So, in best case Holt is now in a level like Williams in the mid 60s.

 

So you're expecting something similar to Lost in Space.

[Not Mr. Big 4,244]

As long as it's as good as the Star Wars Visions score I'll be happy

[Manakin Skywalker 3,891]

1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said:

As long as it's as good as the Star Wars Visions score I'll be happy

 

Not the second episode though, right?

[Not Mr. Big 4,244]

19 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

Not the second episode though, right?

Is that the musical one?  

[Edmilson 4,984]

Loki's score was one of the best of the MCU Disney+ shows, and she'll have Williams' support. I'm a little optimistic about this

[Not Mr. Big 4,244]

2 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Loki's score was one of the best of the MCU Disney+ shows, and she'll have Williams' support. I'm a little optimistic about this

Better than Black Panther and the Silvestri scores??

 

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[Edmilson 4,984]

Just now, Not Mr. Big said:

Better than Black Panther and the Silvestri scores??

 

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I meant just the Disney+ shows, not the whole MCU. 

[Edmilson 4,984]

2 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

OK. Now the question pops up, why was that information kept a secret for such a long time?

 

That's what I want to know. Why keep her name a secret for weeks? 

 

Maybe Disney doesn't care about scores and just forgot to tell the press who the composer will be?