Popular Post Jay 37,275 Posted April 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2022 Roger says: " Coming May 3rd I'm heading out of town so I'm giving you a heads up to what's coming a week from Tuesday really early. 2-CD set. " http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8899 Brando, Positivatee, JTN and 5 others 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,035 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Yay! Never got around to buying the OST, so this'll do nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 This is so exciting! Jumanji is one of my favorite Horner scores. The OST album was 51 minutes long, and the isolated score track on the DVD has about 71 minutes of music as heard in the final film, and none of it is really any different to the OST versions (other then some extra percussion in the long "Jumanji" cue), so I'm surprised that it's a 2-CD set. I guess the second disc must contain the entire OST program, unless a whole slew of alternates were recorded that we know nothing about! There was some source music recorded for the film - Cole Porter's Night and Day, Hark! the Herald Angels Sing, We Wish You a Merry Christmas, etc - I wonder if that will be included? jwalk713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 398 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Oh, awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,579 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Great news! This was the last remaining score from Horner's epic 1995 to still be awaiting a complete release! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 It's surprisingly harsh and dark, with aleatoric writing and harsh dissonances, quite unusual for a Horner kiddie movie. There was a falling out between Horner and Joe Johnston over this, maybe this explains a bunch of alternates. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I want willow StarFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,290 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, publicist said: It's surprisingly harsh and dark, with aleatoric writing and harsh dissonances, quite unusual for a Horner kiddie movie. There was a falling out between Horner and Joe Johnston over this, maybe this explains a bunch of alternates. Intriguing... do tell? I recall lots of speculation in the lead-up to Jurassic Park 3 that Horner would take over composing duties from Williams, simply due to the Joe Johnston connection. From memory Don Davis was quite a left-field selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, crumbs said: Intriguing... do tell? This was a story back then in FSM or possibly Music from the Movies, afair Horner locked horns with Johnson about the musical approach, and i bet Horner was arguing for a strengthening of the heart-tugging aspects, as he always did. In the very same year he had similar problems with William Friedkin about 'Jade', which is why Horner's score is used only sparingly and sometimes substituted with classical music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,579 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, crumbs said: Intriguing... do tell? I recall lots of speculation in the lead-up to Jurassic Park 3 that Horner would take over composing duties from Williams, simply due to the Joe Johnston connection. From memory Don Davis was quite a left-field selection. Did Don Davis orchestrate Jumanji? I forget... I know he contributed to other Horner scores that year, like Balto. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Did Don Davis orchestrate Jumanji? I forget... I know he contributed to other Horner scores that year, like Balto. Yavar No, it was Steven Bramson, who also worked on Balto, Apollo 13 and A Far Off Place for Horner. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 481 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I remember a lot of people not liking this score? But I definitely am a fan of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 I've always loved it! scallenger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 It's certainly not a score that I listen to very often - Horner's 1995 is dominated by much stronger material - but, since the film is quite an important one from my childhood (it was only like the 2nd or 3rd film that I saw in the cinema), it holds enormous nostalgic value and I do enjoy the score within the film. It's very much ingrained within the fabric of what makes it so memorable. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,380 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Jumanji is a pretty great Horner score. It has some of the best action writing from him, even though I love his action music from the mid-1990s until the early 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Apparently Intrada wanted to use the home art, but couldn't Roger said on FSM: "I love this artwork. We tried to use it but it's exclusive for the home video release, so no such luck." https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=147542&forumID=1&archive=0 crumbs and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Oh excellent! Will be getting this for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 10 hours ago, Jay said: Apparently Intrada wanted to use the home art, but couldn't Roger said on FSM: "I love this artwork. We tried to use it but it's exclusive for the home video release, so no such luck." https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=147542&forumID=1&archive=0 Williams looks like michael bay or horner… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Not a fan of this art at all ^^ Would have prefered this: Or this: Or this: Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 The original artwork without the subheadline would be my favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,667 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Yes, lose the tagline and increase the size of the game. But they are no doubt limited to what they can use, and probably any modifications they are allowed to make. I like it more than the OST cover - I'm not a fan of the bright border on the original. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 7,979 Posted April 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2022 Quite frankly, they all look terrible. Just give me the music. Karol Richard Penna, Yavar Moradi and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 Doug's corner: " 5/2/2022 Start off the month of May with rousing musical adventure and excitement courtesy James Horner and his rich orchestral accompaniment to Joe Johnston’s wildly successful 1995 franchise-beginner, Jumanji, starring Robin Williams. Expanded 2-CD set available to own starting tomorrow! " http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8902 Raiders of the SoundtrArk and scallenger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 481 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Can't wait to see the tracklist and hear clips. Really hoping for some interesting alternates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frank Vincent 226 Posted May 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2022 Tracklist: CD 1 THE FILM SCORE 01. Prologue And Main Title (3:40) 02. Alan Finds The Game (1:54) 03. Oven Sounds/First Move (2:26) 04. The New House (1:23) 05. Bats In The Attic/The Exterminator (1:36) 06. Monkey Mayhem (5:23) 07. A New World (2:40) 08. Alan Parrish (4:21) 09. Mosquito In Car (1:24) 10. Alan Explains The Dangers (0:49) 11. “It’s Sarah’s Move” (2:34) 12. Plant Almost Eats Peter (2:05) 13. The Hunter (1:54) 14. Stampede! (2:10) 15. A Pelican Steals The Game (1:38) 16. Hunter Sniffs The Game (0:25) 17. Hunter Shoots At Alan/Monkeys Start Looting (1:03) 18. Rampage Through Town Pt. I & Pt. II (2:55) 19. Store Mayhem (1:58) 20. Car Crash (2:23) 21. Peter’s Tail/Van Pelt’s Hand (1:29) 22. The Monsoon (5:12) 23. “Jumanji” [Film Edit] (11:42) 24. Peter, Judy And Parents (0:52) 25. End Titles (5:58) Total CD 1 Time: 70:36 CD 2 THE EXTRAS 01. Monkey Mayhem (Without Klaxon Horns) (5:24) 02. “It’s Sarah’s Move” (Alternate) (2:34) 03. Jumanji Drums (0:35) Total Extras Time: 8:38 1995 SOUNDTRACK ALBUM 04. Prologue And Main Title (3:42) 05. First Move (2:20) 06. Monkey Mayhem (4:42) 07. A New World (2:40) 08. “It’s Sarah’s Move” (2:36) 09. The Hunter (1:56) 10. Rampage Through Town (2:28) 11. Alan Parrish (4:18) 12. Stampede! (2:12) 13. A Pelican Steals The Game (1:40) 14. The Monsoon (4:48) 15. “Jumanji” (11:47) 16. End Titles (5:55) Total Soundtrack Album Time: 51:17 Total CD 2 Time: 59:54 https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12529/.f scallenger, JTN, Edmilson and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 481 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Damn, only one real alternate. Still! Gonna get this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 How's this one in terms of Horner ""homages"" to himself and others? scallenger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 481 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, Smeltington said: How's this one in terms of Horner ""homages"" to himself and others? Yeah, I am actually trying to remember if the "danger motif" appears in this score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,314 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 On 25/04/2022 at 7:48 AM, Jay said: This is so exciting! Jumanji is one of my favorite Horner scores. The OST album was 51 minutes long, and the isolated score track on the DVD has about 71 minutes of music as heard in the final film, and none of it is really any different to the OST versions (other then some extra percussion in the long "Jumanji" cue), so I'm surprised that it's a 2-CD set. ... Surprised? Really?! Another score that fits on one CD in.complete form. 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,979 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Well, not quite. Quote Horner’s original album which features exclusive edits and takes also features on CD 2 of this two-disc set. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Smeltington said: How's this one in terms of Horner ""homages"" to himself and others? Disappointingly original, tbh. No danger motif, just a few vague nods to Casper, Clear and Present Danger. Interestingly, the soft material was the basis for much of Horner's later americana, cf 'Spitfire Grill', 'Deep Impact' and so on. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,491 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Well, not quite. Quote Horner’s original album which features exclusive edits and takes also features on CD 2 of this two-disc set. Karol Hmm, only "Jumanji" is marked as such, though the track times reveal microedits. Guess we'll have to wait and see but those bonuses definitely would've fit on D1. So weird to just throw them in front of the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,314 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 All you two - disc enthusiasts should be ecstatic . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 amazing, the clips sound so crisp, clear and bold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jean-Baptiste Martin 249 Posted May 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2022 My review: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/jumanji-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/ JTN, crumbs, Edmilson and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 8 hours ago, publicist said: Disappointingly original, tbh. No danger motif, just a few vague nods to Casper, Clear and Present Danger. Why is that disappointing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 The album version of "Jumanji" is different than the film version and is 12 minutes long, so no matter what the set was going to have to be two discs to include both versions. So I think it makes total sense to include the entire OST album on disc 2, instead of having disc 2 just be a really short disc of extras. The only unusual thing I think is that those 3 bonus tracks are presented at the opening of disc 2, rather than the end of disc 1. But thinking about it, that means Disc 1 gets to be a nice disc you pop in and press play and get a complete score from start to finish that ends nicely. Then if you want to hear anything extra, you pop in disc 2 to get bonus stuff. It's kind of nice when you think about it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,491 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Jay said: The album version of "Jumanji" is different than the film version The tracklist only says [Film Edit] - is it also compositionally different in parts or is it just edited down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 I remember hearing some drums in the isolated score version that you can't hear on the album version The 5-second-shorter overall length could also be because the film used some takes that synced to the footage better, while for the album Horner chose the takes he thought were performed the best. I've seen that happen before on other titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,491 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Horner madly recorded such long cues in one piece so it's plausible, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 Here's Roger's write-up: " INTRADA Announces: JUMANJI Composed and Conducted by JAMES HORNER INTRADA ISC 473 Intrada's latest release from composer James Horner is a 2-CD set of his wild 1995 score for Tri-Star's Jumanji. 1995 was a busy year for Horner, having composed Braveheart, Casper, Apollo 13, Jade and Balto in addition to Jumanji. Directed by Joe Johnston, the film continued the collaboration with Horner, who also scored his films Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, The Rocketeer and The Pagemaster. Horner marshals large orchestral forces for Jumanji for his leitmotif-driven score, augmented by synthesizers and a selection of ethnic instruments, chief among these are two flutes, shakuhachi and quena, used to very different effects. The former is a traditional Japanese bamboo flute that Horner deployed in many of his scores—though rarely as aptly as in Jumanji, where its breathy, guttural tones transform the instrument into a veritable jungle beast. On the other end of the emotional spectrum, the quena (or kena) is a South American wood flute from the Andes region, usually performed with florid vibrato. Its timbre has an idyllic quality and creates islands of tranquility within the score. Sony Pictures vaulted the complete 6-channel scoring session masters for Jumanji, with three channels devoted to the orchestra mixes and three channels assigned to the sweeteners and electronics. Although their textures and effects are important in select sequences of the score, Horner kept them to a minimum, preferring to emphasize the colors of his large orchestra. The master elements were transferred at 24bit 96kHz with the six channels of audio combined into the vivid final composite two-channel stereo mix made by Shawn Murphy at the Todd-AO Scoring Stage. The complete score appears on disc 1, with disc 2 featuring a remastered original 1995 soundtrack album, produced by the composer with some exclusive takes and edits. The film opens with a nineteenth-century prologue as the game is sealed underground. The narrative jumps to 1969, when young Alan Parrish discovers the game on the outskirts of a shoe factory and a roll of the dice leaves Alan trapped in the game. The story moves to “present day” 1995, when the game is rediscovered by orphans Judy (Kirsten Dunst) and Peter (Bradley Pierce) Shepherd, after they move into the old Parrish house. Taking up the game where Alan and Sarah left off, the children unleash a plague of jungle beasts on their small town—and in the process release the adult Alan, now portrayed by Robin Williams, who must help them finish the game and thereby undo its pernicious effects. INTRADA ISC 473 Retail Price: $30.99 Barcode: 7 20258 54730 9 Starts Shipping 5/03 For track listing and sound samples, please visit https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12529/.f " http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8903 Here's Dough's write-up: " James Horner Label: Intrada Special Collection Volume ISC 473 Film Date: 1995 Album Date: 2022 Time: 130:30 Tracks: 41 Price: $30.99 Colorful expanded action score from James Horner! Wildly successful fantasy adventure franchise from the mind of author-illustrator Chris Van Allsburg has its beginnings with this 1995 hit! Robin Williams headlines the cast, Kirsten Dunst, Bonnie Hunt, Jonathan Hyde, Bebe Neuwirth also feature. Joe Johnston directs, Tristar Pictures presents, James Horner scores. It begins with a game, players make their moves, the pieces snap into place… and incredible adventures result. Giant mosquitos, wild monkeys, animals on the rampage, man-eating plants all become real! Buried within is moving tale of boy lost inside from years past, now freed in the present. Home, father and son relationships, love all play emotional roles amidst wild excitement. Matching note for note is florid, exciting symphonic score from James Horner. Mysterious ideas suddenly become frantic, action-filled romps, gentle moments become thundering musical outbursts. Highlights are abundant: “Monkey Mayhem” brings wild orchestral frenzy to the fore while “Mosquito In Car” brings in giant insect on the musical attack. Amidst all the dangers is warm, moving theme for boyhood and home, given heart courtesy woodwinds and strings. When fantastic story reaches climax, Horner unleashes epic-length 11-minute “Jumanji” to do orchestral battle with the elements of nature-gone-wild. Horner’s masterful blend of emotional warmth with rousing excitement is memorable! Generous 51-minute 1995 album of highlights is now expanded from original digital scoring session masters, includes previously unreleased gems such as “Store Mayhem”, the aforementioned “Mosquito In Car”, Plant Almost Eats Peter”, several other cues. Horner’s original album which features exclusive edits and takes also features on CD 2 of this two-disc set. Informative liner notes by John Takis, graphic package design by Kay Marshall. Steve Bramson orchestrates, James Horner composes, conducts the Hollywood Studio Orchestra. Intrada Special Collection 2-CD release available while quantities and interest remain! " https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12529/.f Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Baptiste Martin 249 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jay said: The 5-second-shorter overall length could also be because the film used some takes that synced to the footage better, while for the album Horner chose the takes he thought were performed the best. I've seen that happen before on other titles Yes, that's right. The two versions are similar but the takes used are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 I just finished reading your review! (http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/jumanji-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/) -- very lovely explanation of the new and different cues! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,380 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 So, out of all Horner scores from 1995, the only one that hasn't been expanded yet is Jade, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,275 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 Incorrect. Jade never had an OST album, and then LLL premiered the complete score in 2010 https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19537-la-la-land-announces-james-horners-jade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,459 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 I didn't care much for this score when I first got it in the 90s. For many years, I didn't play it at all. It felt a little unfocussed, not really a strong thematic identity. Just a bit all-over-the-place and autopilot-like. Well, a couple of years ago, I gave it another chance, and I liked it considerably more. Played it a few times since, and I now consider it good. Not spectacular or anything, but good, solid Horner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Smeltington said: Why is that disappointing? A joke. 7 minutes ago, Thor said: I didn't care much for this score when I first got it in the 90s. For many years, I didn't play it at all. It felt a little unfocussed, not really a strong thematic identity. Just a bit all-over-the-place and autopilot-like. Well, a couple of years ago, I gave it another chance, and I liked it considerably more. Played it a few times since, and I now consider it good. Not spectacular or anything, but good, solid Horner. It's good. Not great, but with a real edge (it's very rough and dissonant often). Filed the action music as 'Like Titanic, just in good'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Jay said: The narrative jumps to 1969, when young Alan Parrish discovers the game on the outskirts of a shoe factory and a roll of the dice leaves Alan trapped in the game. The story moves to “present day” 1995, when the game is rediscovered by orphans Judy (Kirsten Dunst) and Peter (Bradley Pierce) Shepherd, after they move into the old Parrish house. 1995 is closer to 1969 than to 2022. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Baptiste Martin 249 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Jay said: I just finished reading your review! (http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/jumanji-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/) -- very lovely explanation of the new and different cues! Thank you @Jay for your message. It makes me happy! I did what I could because I had very little time between writing the book and family life... A little off topic: During my research for the book, I discovered that The Spitfire Grill was recorded in December 1995 so depending on how you look at it, this score could be part of the 1995 vintage. And James Horner's collaborators have very clear memories of Jade. The LLL edition seems to correspond to the music as it appears in the film and not to the recording sessions. Corellian2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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