Popular Post Jay 26,821 Posted May 20 Popular Post Share Posted May 20 Presumed Innocent: The Deluxe Edition (CD) JOHN WILLIAMS UPC: 888072419094 Release Date: 5/20/2022 Regular price$ 19.99 Presumed Innocent, the debut novel of Scott Turow, was a bestseller upon publication in 1987: a twisty, ultra-smart account of a prosecutor investigating the murder of a brilliant colleague with whom he was having an affair—and all clues point to himself as the perpetrator. The book was made into an equally riveting, first-class film in 1990, directed by Alan J. Pakula (Klute, All the President’s Men) and starring Harrison Ford, Brian Dennehy, Raul Julia, Bonnie Bedelia, Paul Winfield, Greta Scacchi and John Spencer. By 1990, John Williams was a worldwide icon for his soundtracks to blockbusters—but he was a master of every possible genre, including the unique combination of crime thriller and courtroom drama that was Presumed Innocent. Williams created a haunting, beguiling score of subtle piano, noble yet melancholy French horn, churning strings and even a wisp of synthesizer to express the film’s exploration of guilt and innocence, virtue and obsession. It is an exquisitely subtle score, but melodic and stimulating—and dramatically pitch-perfect. Presumed Innocent was released by Varèse Sarabande at the time of the film, and has now been expanded and remastered by Mike Matessino in a new program of the complete score, followed by unique album versions and alternates. New liner notes are by Jeff Bond. Limited edition of 2,500 copies. SCORE PRESENTATION 1. Main Title (From The Motion Picture Presumed Innocent)** 1:37 2. Family Morning 1:11 3. Carolyn’s Office (Film Version) ** 1:13 4. Burning The Note * 1:18 5. The B File (Film Version) 1:16 6. Juvenile Pictures * :46 7. Remembering Carolyn 2:20 8. Reacting To Carolyn * 1:08 9. Love Scene 4:08 10. Off The Case / You’re Always Right * 2:37 11. The Bedroom Scene (Film Version) ** 4:22 12. On The Advice Of Counsel 1:26 13. In The Patio 2:24 14. Carolyn’s Apartment ** :51 15. Family Theme * :57 16. Physical Evidence * :45 17. Outside The Courthouse * :45 18. Leon Talks 2:01 19. Fingerprints * 1:06 20. Barbara And Rusty 1:12 21. Case Dismissed (Film Version) :49 22. The Boat Scene 2:16 23. Return To Normal ** 1:00 24. The Basement Scene (Film Version) ** 2:56 25. Barbara’s Confession 5:19 26. End Credits (From The Motion Picture Presumed Innocent) ** 4:03 ALBUM VERSIONS 27. Presumed Innocent 4:14 28. Family Life 1:32 29. The B File 3:30 30. The Bedroom Scene 4:22 31. Carolyn’s Office 3:26 32. Rusty Accused 2:08 33. Case Dismissed 1:55 34. The Basement Scene 2:57 35. End Credits 4:06 * Previously unreleased ** Contains previously unreleased material https://www.varesesarabande.com/products/john-williams-presumed-innocent-the-deluxe-edition-cd aescalle, May the Force be with You, MrJosh and 12 others 9 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F 27 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Seeing a surprising amount of unreleased it’s an instabuy for me! Nice. BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 349 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Soooooo glad to get this. I absolute adore this score. Stu and JTW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 11,527 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Cool! The last item on Varese' list. Wonder if they'll keep pursuing other JW scores now, regardless of whether they were connected to the OST. BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,249 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Surprising amount of new material. Intriguing. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5,273 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 LOL, so it was PRESUMED INNOCENT (per a discussion in another thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 3,691 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 873 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Awesome! Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 852 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Ordered too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 307 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May the Force be with You 1,754 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 47 minutes ago, Thor said: LOL, so it was PRESUMED INNOCENT (per a discussion in another thread). Ordered!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 183 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Can’t decide whether to be happy that it’s a release I’m not desperate to have (thus saving me money) or sad that it’s not Hook. It feels like I’m in an indeterminate quantum state. Schrödinger’s Film Score Release? Mark Tom and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu 13,972 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Boy I love this soundtrack. Ordered! Demondm810 and May the Force be with You 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 26,821 Posted May 20 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 20 The Mike Matessino / @TownerFan / @mahler3 podcast is here! https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2022/05/20/spacecamp-presumed-innocent-podcast/ MrJosh, Yavar Moradi, Romão and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 5,161 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Shame that disc space was about 10 minutes too tight to put both albums in there, but I appreciate them keeping Williams’ unique tracks as bonuses all the same. Jurassic Shark and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 8,703 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I'll order after they've corrected the inevitable flaws. JTW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6,300 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 @mstroxI assume they didn't repeat some tracks because they were 100 % identical (content and mastering) Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 26,821 Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 The entire OST album is included in the new release, you just have to re-create it in your playlist maker of choice (or use one of those programmable CD players) 27. Presumed Innocent 4:14 7. Remembering Carolyn 2:20 28. Family Life 1:32 9. Love Scene 4:08 29. The B File 3:30 30. The Bedroom Scene 4:22 31. Carolyn’s Office 3:26 18. Leon Talks 2:01 32. Rusty Accused 2:08 33. Case Dismissed 1:55 22. The Boat Scene 2:16 34. The Basement Scene 2:57 25. Barbara’s Confession 5:19 35. End Credits 4:06 MrJosh and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 1,328 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I ordered. This has never been a score I spin frequently, and so I hope a fresh take will allow me to appreciate it more. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,475 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Ordered! An intriguing title from Varese to release but a welcome one and its interesting to hear basically the film version of the score for the first time (judging by the track titles). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu 13,972 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Inky comes back to us now, at the turn of the tide. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2,576 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Can't wait to listen to this! Shame Mike couldn't get rid of the stupid 'Barbara's confession' though. By far JW's worst track title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant 1,092 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Another release that I cannot wait to...skip. JTW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,475 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, bollemanneke said: Can't wait to listen to this! Shame Mike couldn't get rid of the stupid 'Barbara's confession' though. By far JW's worst track title. Well I don't think you can call it a spoiler anymore. Back in the day maybe, but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 26,821 Posted May 20 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 20 It is an interesting choice for some OST albums to use such spoilery titles. "Barbara's Confession" could have just been "The Confession" "Qui-Gob's Noble End" could have just been "Final Duel" "The High Council Meeting and Qui-Gon's Funeral" could have been "The High Council Meeting and The Funeral" "Malcolm Is Dead" could have just been "The Revelation" etc Corellian2019, MrJosh and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 980 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 This is a pleasant surprise, and only a week after SpaceCamp! Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 26,821 Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 I ordered as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2,576 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 16 minutes ago, Incanus said: Well I don't think you can call it a spoiler anymore. Back in the day maybe, but not now. I saw the movie in 2017. No one should assume everyone has seen a movie at a certain point. I still need to see AI, Amistad, Munich... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 440 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I've always loved the theme and the horn solo. Excited to listen to this in full. I appreciate that MM gives his same level of care and attention to even smaller gems like this one and not just the big stuff. JTW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6,300 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Ah yes, Barbara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwayHigh19 2 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Updated the cover a bit. It seems to me, some times, that lately Varese is not really trying hard on the quality of the covers. Demondm810 and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6,300 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 40 minutes ago, Jay said: It is an interesting choice for some OST albums to use such spoilery titles. "Barbara's Confession" could have just been "The Confession" "Qui-Gob's Noble End" could have just been "Final Duel" "The High Council Meeting and Qui-Gon's Funeral" could have been "The High Council Meeting and The Funeral" "Malcolm Is Dead" could have just been "The Revelation" etc Search for the track title "The confession" on Discogs, you'll get over 500 results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 7,399 Posted May 20 Popular Post Share Posted May 20 8 minutes ago, MidwayHigh19 said: It seems to me, some times, that lately Varese is not really trying hard on the quality of the covers. Yep, both Varese and Intrada. A. A. Ron, Chewy and MidwayHigh19 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmatt92 0 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Is this likely to get a digital release at some point in the future? I know a lot of Varese stuff does these days, but not always, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 26,821 Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 Hard to say. The Cowboys did, but Stanley & Iris didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwayHigh19 2 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, Holko said: Да, и Варезе, и Интрада. It seems that they are too lazy to do them ..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonb 105 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Im happy to get this. I like the film and the score quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,257 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Nice! Another cdr out of my collection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 26,821 Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 19 hours ago, Jay said: The Mike Matessino / @TownerFan / @mahler3 podcast is here! https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2022/05/20/spacecamp-presumed-innocent-podcast/ This was a great episode, and surely will be a wonderful companion to the new album. I really hope everyone listens to it and enjoys it, and then comes back and reads my thoughts! I enjoyed the discussion about writing a score that gets more into the phycology of the characters (in a movie where everyone has secrets), as opposed to say, scoring the raw instinct of the shark in Jaws or the bombast of action and adventure. I also enjoyed the talk about how Indiana Jones 3 felt like the end of one era of John's career and Presumed Innocent is like the start of the next, and how much flexing of his scoring muscles he worked out anew throughout the 90s. I also enjoyed Maurizio's observation that John used the French horn in the theme for feelings of regret, instead of the usual way it is used for nobility and heroism. Maurizio's observations about how John scored the sex scene, and how he uses Dies irae in it was fun too Yavar Moradi and TownerFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 318 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Jay said: Maurizio's observations about how John scored the sex scene and how he uses Dies irae in it was fun too lol I remember watching that scene and the combination of music and imagery being powerfully un-erotic (which maybe was the point). Almost as if the orchestra was screaming "Don't do it!" Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,916 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Damn I wish they announced it at the same time as Spacecamp so I could order all my c.d.'s together. I guess I'll just get it with the next release then. Probably my least played JW OST but there seems to be a lot of unreleased music so I could change my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,247 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 hours ago, Bespin said: @mstroxI assume they didn't repeat some tracks because they were 100 % identical (content and mastering) Since When has that stopped them? 😉 😎 GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,249 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I'm still amazed this is a 77-minute CD. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roll the Bones 2,945 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 1,856 Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 Presumed Innocent and Spacecamp both not my favourite choices for expansions. But, hey, it's John Williams! So, Edmilson, Bespin, May the Force be with You and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6,300 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Presumed Innocent and Spacecamp both not my favourite choices for expansions. But, hey, it's John Williams! So, Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 1,328 Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 Not my favorite either, but I really appreciate they way Matessino put both scores into the context of a transition time for Williams “digging deeper” (particularly with PI) to move from the heroic mid 80s sound to the more “mature” 90s writing. It’s fascinating to consider a film like Presumed Innocent and consider how he might’ve scored it if it were made two decades later, given the complexity of his writing after scoring more diverse projects than SW and 80s Amblin style work. I see it as a transitionary piece. Maybe not necessarily the most exciting on its own, but in context of career, very interesting. Of course a nice shiny new MM expansion may completely change my perception of it. In fact, I welcome that and am counting on it. BrotherSound, Once, Arpy and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,249 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I do respect this score and, to be honest, it fits the film perfectly. I heard it for the first time in context which certainly helped. But I also never really bothered to revisit the original album. Having said that, I am looking forward to revisiting it. It might be a nice antidote to some other bombastic stuff I have been listening to lately. I am just listening to The Legacy of John Williams podcast episode. Really excited about both new albums. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 128 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Glad Varese has an international store, made grabbing this a lot easier financially. Having only heard the OST once can't really say it left much of an impact, but maybe this expansion will offer a new appreciation for the score, and the added context of it as a sort of transition for Williams will be something to keep in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,038 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Some really beautiful, dark, almost minimalist qualities to some of this score, especially in the quieter cues where it's sort of gently simmering with intrigue and mystery. The synth and piano have a haunting effect together that date the score, but it's still timeless in a way only JW can make it. I was going to track down a old copy last year and now I'm glad this has come out and given a new expanded presentation. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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