p0llux 392 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 This is very subjective topic. For me, I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to orchestral scores so synthesizers, pads, and other electronics don't work for me. I also don't like opera voices either. Otherwise, I'm fine with any other instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chen G. 3,943 Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 Since we've extended into choral sounds, I'd add the "exotic" crooning woman vocals. Madmartigan JC, Edmilson and Docteur Qui 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, HyenaBoy said: Yep. I can name two examples: "The Lion King" and "Pirates of the Carribean" Those were done by Elton John and Klaus Badelt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 23 hours ago, Bespin said: Conductor's voice or humming sounds. Ah, chairs also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyenaBoy 29 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Those were done by Elton John and Klaus Badelt. I was talking about the score for The Lion King, not the songs. If you look at the album cover for the Lion King, it literally say "score composed by Hans Zimmer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, HyenaBoy said: I was talking about the score for The Lion King, not the songs. If you look at the album cover for the Lion King, it literally say "score composed by Hans Zimmer". He's baiting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Must be a typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, p0llux said: I also don't like opera voices either. oh yeah.That Tintin track=insta skip. Several minutes of wasted album space where he could have put something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 You should get more out of your comfort zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,087 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I remember the first time I heard the music for the Mynocks going bonkers around the Falcon in the album edit of the ESB album. Those piccolos were a bit tough on the ears. Perfect for the scene, but rather unpleasant. 13 years later I felt John got carried away with those piercing piccolo accents for Jurassic Park action music. Again, I get it, and I think on both cases he’s finding a register of the orchestra that will compete with the sound design, but it’s not my favorite technique. Now the piccolos in The Patriot theme? Divine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 All you harpsichord haters, you despise the Tintin main title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,393 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 16 hours ago, Docteur Qui said: But I saw the latest Spiderman movie and egads, that is not a film that needs an epic choir I remember laughing out loud when I First heard Giacchino's Spider-Man theme with EPIC CHOIR. It was ludicrous. It would've been much more interesting If he somehow mixed his own theme with Elfman's and Horner's Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,639 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Stu said: All you harpsichord haters, you despise the Tintin main title? I am not a big fan. It is good piece, but A) it sounds too similar to Catch me if you can, 2) it has a harpsicord, and D) any genuine, true, authenic, and real fan of Williams wanted him to have Tintin's theme played heroically on trumpet to open the movie. King Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragoz350 450 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 In Spotlight's recording of Tintin's main theme, the harpsichord sounds terrific (better than in OST) - how could anyone not love this instrument? Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I love what Joe Kraemer does with the harpsichord in this Mission Impossible 5 track (starting at 2:45) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 955 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 25/05/2022 at 8:12 PM, Tom said: I am not a big fan. It is good piece, but A) it sounds too similar to Catch me if you can, 2) it has a harpsicord, and D) any genuine, true, authenic, and real fan of Williams wanted him to have Tintin's theme played heroically on trumpet to open the movie. Tintin is not Indiana Jones, though. As a film, it's actually fairly close in tone to Catch Me if you Can, so it makes sense. It would probably sound better on a real harpsichord instead of synthetic. I'm not sure about the "real" fan gatekeeping, but I appreciate the Home Alone reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I hate flute solos . Especially for romantic music They sound sappy, saccharin and maudlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,087 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 We should have an instruments you love thread. I like the oboe. Did the oboe ever offend anyone? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 12 hours ago, bruce marshall said: I hate flute solos . You... what? MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I can't think of anything for me. I was going to say duduk maybe. Synth is great and so are harpsichords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Theremin? Rather than focusing on what we don't like, let's talk about what we'd like to hear more of; I have a long list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I like non-Zimmer scores. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,037 Posted May 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2022 This thread is baffling to me. So many wonderful instruments! Brónach, Giftheck and MikeH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Do the synth-haters know that most of JW’s “symphonic” scores contain synth parts, or are you talking about synths as a separate color to the orchestra alá Goldsmith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyenaBoy 29 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 20 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I like non-Zimmer scores. Which Zimmer scores do you like? I know Lion King is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, HyenaBoy said: Which Zimmer scores do you like? I know Lion King is one of them. Elton John did fine work there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyenaBoy 29 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 46 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Elton John did fine work there. As did Hans Zimmer (I mean, you can't deny tracks like "This Land" are epic, can you?). Or do you not like the score, and only like the songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Sure, there's epicness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyenaBoy 29 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 19 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Sure, there's epicness. Whysay you dislike Hans Zimmer, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 28/05/2022 at 3:52 AM, Datameister said: This thread is baffling to me. Is it? There had been composers who sported dislike for certain instruments, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Pretty baffling to me too. There's no musical instrument whose timbre I find inherently annoying, not even bagpipes. Brónach and MikeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Not even Kazoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bespin said: Not even Kazoo? Nope! Bespin and Brónach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I love Kazoo, no one composed a concerto for Kazoo and orchestra yet Disco Stu and Brónach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted May 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 28/05/2022 at 7:01 PM, HyenaBoy said: As did Hans Zimmer (I mean, you can't deny tracks like "This Land" are epic, can you?). On 28/05/2022 at 7:10 PM, Jurassic Shark said: Sure, there's epicness. 6 hours ago, HyenaBoy said: Whysay you dislike Hans Zimmer, then? Why is epicness so often considered a measure of quality these days? As in "epic" equals "good music"? I like good epic music where it makes sense, and I like good non-epic music where it makes sense, but music that's written to be just epic, because epic is cool, and therefore it must be good if it's epic, is one of the most annoying properties of (mostly) modern blockbuster scoring, and one of the reasons why I dislike a lot of Zimmer's "big" scores. Music that tries to be epic just because usually ends up pretending to be epic and also not even trying to be good music. Jurassic Shark, GerateWohl, Brónach and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 What Marian said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,393 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 59 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Why is epicness so often considered a measure of quality these days? As in "epic" equals "good music"? I like good epic music where it makes sense, and I like good non-epic music where it makes sense, but music that's written to be just epic, because epic is cool, and therefore it must be good if it's epic, is one of the most annoying properties of (mostly) modern blockbuster scoring, and one of the reasons why I dislike a lot of Zimmer's "big" scores. Music that tries to be epic just because usually ends up pretending to be epic and also not even trying to be good music. Lorne Balfe and Junkie XL should read this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyenaBoy 29 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Why is epicness so often considered a measure of quality these days? As in "epic" equals "good music"? I like good epic music where it makes sense, and I like good non-epic music where it makes sense, but music that's written to be just epic, because epic is cool, and therefore it must be good if it's epic, is one of the most annoying properties of (mostly) modern blockbuster scoring, and one of the reasons why I dislike a lot of Zimmer's "big" scores. Music that tries to be epic just because usually ends up pretending to be epic and also not even trying to be good music. I think Lion King is probably one of the few examples where Zimmer's music DOES work for the film (and isn't really trying to be "epic"). Giftheck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I meant (but forgot) to mention: Lion King doesn't, or at least mostly doesn't, have this issue, and the Mozart-esque passages full of pathos work well in context. It's good because it's good, not because it's epic (which, as far as I recall, most of it isn't anyway). Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 15 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: I meant (but forgot) to mention: Lion King doesn't, or at least mostly doesn't, have this issue, and the Mozart-esque passages full of pathos work well in context. It's good because it's good, not because it's epic (which, as far as I recall, most of it isn't anyway). it has great melody work which is very inspiring On 29/05/2022 at 3:54 PM, Stu said: Nope! oh, lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 I'm in the crowd of 'I don't think there's an instrument I don't like in orchestral scores, it all depends on their usage and context'. Having said that, maybe it's because it's cheaper these days, but it's become obvious which scores use VST percussion over a live-recorded percussion section. Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 On 29/05/2022 at 9:21 PM, Marian Schedenig said: but music that's written to be just epic, because epic is cool, and therefore it must be good if it's epic, is one of the most annoying properties of (mostly) modern blockbuster scoring, and one of the reasons why I dislike a lot of Zimmer's "big" scores. I have to cut him some slack here, because Zimmer may have been co-responsible for introducing this kitchen sink style, but he himself shied away from it more often than not, or at least adding specifics that made it stand out. Case in point is i. e. the fourth or fifth (don't remember, blame me) Pirates score with all these flamenco pieces by Rodrigo y Gabriela. HunterTech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 The generic "modern action music" drums. Why does timpani seem to be forbidden these days? Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Anthony said: The generic "modern action music" drums. They're called Taiko drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Anthony said: The generic "modern action music" drums. Why does timpani seem to be forbidden these days? Disco Stu and Andy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyenaBoy 29 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Giftheck said: I'm in the crowd of 'I don't think there's an instrument I don't like in orchestral scores, it all depends on their usage and context'. Having said that, maybe it's because it's cheaper these days, but it's become obvious which scores use VST percussion over a live-recorded percussion section. What si "VST"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, HyenaBoy said: What si "VST"? Here's a Wikipedia article on what VSTs are. One such example is that Ghostbusters: Afterlife uses the True Strike VST instrument set for its percussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Mark 3,625 Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 I figured out why I can;t get into Eiger Sanction. Too much harpsichord, then you get a few tracks played with Saxophone and even accordion. A lot of my unwanted instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 The only thing I'm averse to is electronic processing of acoustic instruments to the point that they sound like electronics or become distorted. What's the point of doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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