King Mark 3,411 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Harrison ford almost looks older than JW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,626 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Liking this piece more and more. Starting to grasp the theme better, love the diverse variations and the bits to tie them together - it's very well-structured. BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,735 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, King Mark said: Harrison ford almost looks older than JW That's because Johnny has looked the same for the past sixty years. This shocked me...Sir Patrick Stewart is about the same age as Harrison Ford who I think looks way younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 7,566 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 13 hours ago, sulky said: It's up now on 7digital Canada too. https://ca.7digital.com/artist/john-williams/release/obi-wan-from-obi-wan-kenobi-21807886 Purchased! 31 minutes ago, King Mark said: Harrison ford almost looks older than JW So I'm not the only one who found Ford looking weak and tired at SWCelebraton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 655 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Absolutely love this theme. Might be my favourite of his Disney era Star Wars themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 281 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 how great is it that we have the end credits version AND the concert version? Now if Disney would just release the rest of the score... Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 7,566 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I think they will, like they did for the others SW series. With the new theme and music by John Williams, it's just more expensive for them do to it, but they'll eventually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,411 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 hey the "ostinato" part in the ending is different in the single and the live version so there's already a "revised" version with alternate ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,700 Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, King Mark said: hey the "ostinato" part in the ending is different in the single and the live version 18 hours ago, Tydirium said: Is nobody going to mention the obvious fact that the ending of this is completely different from the ending of the live performance yesterday? I'm a bit let-down; imo, the live version's ending is better, with the recap of the ostinato figure from the middle... Overall I love the theme, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,078 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, King Mark said: so there's already a "revised" version with alternate ending The beginning of the live version is slightly different too, with added vibraphone, possibly celeste, too, and the violins begin with an accent rather than quietly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 13,547 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 It's rather amusing that JW performed the theme from Obi-Wan live before performing anything from Rise of Skywalker, despite that film being 2.5 years old. BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,223 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 The healing process is long (actually just 5:13 lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 7,566 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 @crumbs JW recorded "The Adventures of Han" for his Berlin album, then "The Rebellion is reborn" for his Vienna one... Give him one more chance to record a live concert, and we'll probably get the chance to have a live version of "The Rise of Skywalker"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,486 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, Bespin said: JW recorded "The Adventures of Han" for his Berlin album, then "The Rebellion is reborn" for his Vienna one. Give him one more chance to record a live concert, and we'll probably get the chance to have a live version of "The Rise of Skywalker"! JW still hasn't forgiven JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 7,566 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Forgiven what? To mix his music at a so low volume in his movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,486 Posted May 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Bespin said: Forgiven what? To mix his music at a so low volume in his movies? For making him write 200 minutes of music and then treating it like toilet paper in film Chewy, MikeH, Fabulin and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 7,566 Posted May 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2022 With expansions, JW always gets his revenge! Bayesian, DangerMotif, Chewy and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,168 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 14 hours ago, MikeH said: And not to open a can of worms, but re: Holt’s interview where she said the director pushed her to go more modern and away from being “old-fashioned”, this “old-fashioned” piece by JW is obviously now the showpiece for the entire show. If you’re making a show that sits squarely between Episode III and Episode IV, why significantly change the musical direction? If you’re keeping continuity visually and storytelling-wise, why not keep the music in the same language? To have the Disney suits countermand the director-slash-executive producer of the show on something as important as the music soundscape suggests either that JW has more pull over the musical identity of the Star Wars IP than almost anyone else or that Disney actually grasps and cares about the nuance of the continuity situation. My money’s on the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Rahmjoo 3 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 22 hours ago, Falstaft said: Some more transcribing done -- now in you all convinced me is the proper compound (12/8) meter. Here's roughly the first third of the piece: [EDIT: Fixed the first ostinato in light of @Docteur Qui and @Michael G.'s corrections. Not catching a *direct* Battle of the Heroes reference, @karelm, but the main tune itself has more in common with that theme than I realized at first. @Falstaft, I believe there should be an anticipation duplet A-flat at the end of m. 15. michael_grig and Falstaft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 1,998 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 14 hours ago, Ali Rahmjoo said: @Falstaft, I believe there should be an anticipation duplet A-flat at the end of m. 15. Right you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 281 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I have the end credits and concert versions playing back-to-back on a continuous loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 3,220 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Made it to #38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,499 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Dr. Know said: I have the end credits and concert versions playing back-to-back on a continuous loop. Has the end credits version been released anywhere or are you just listening to an audio rip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 281 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Docteur Qui said: Has the end credits version been released anywhere or are you just listening to an audio rip? Audio rip. Hoping it gets officially released soon! Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,067 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Great theme! BB-8 and Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,612 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Can we expect a proper hard-copy album with the single JW track plus selected tracks by Holt? Like the Solo album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 571 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 BB-8 and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,465 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 In retrospect it's amazing how different are the themes for the master and the apprentice. Qui-Gon sure must have seemed like an oddball to Williams I like the thought that the Kenobi theme describes Obi-wan the way he is once we take away his social roles (warrior, mentor). @Falstaft your catalogue refers to the Force Theme as such, without mentioning it initially also being a Ben Kenobi theme. Could it be that Williams read the catalogue and noticed that Obi-Wan is the only one who doesn't have a theme? I don't know how likely that is, but the mere thought is entertaining BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,700 Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 I still don't hear how that "Inside the Bubble" bit is supposed to be Qui-Gon's theme Falstaft and Fabulin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,612 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Fabulin said: In retrospect it's amazing how different are the themes for the master and the apprentice. Qui-Gon sure must have seemed like an oddball to Williams I never had thought of that being a specific Qui-Gon theme. I always took it as a kind of swash-buckling Errol Flynn type of Korngoldian action piece. Qui-Gon Flynn :-) artus_grayboot and ThePenitentMan1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,067 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 I was confused at first by the surprisingly tense portion of the theme from ~1:05 to ~2:00. Then I realized it’s all about that “passage of time” quality that fits a man in exile and hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 610 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Jay said: I still don't hear how that "Inside the Bubble" bit is supposed to be Qui-Gon's theme This was my first thought seeing that as an example. I guess I can KINDA hear it but it's a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 1,998 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Fabulin said: @Falstaft your catalogue refers to the Force Theme as such, without mentioning it initially also being a Ben Kenobi theme. Could it be that Williams read the catalogue and noticed that Obi-Wan is the only one who doesn't have a theme? I don't know how likely that is, but the mere thought is entertaining Hah! Only if he doesn't read the footnotes. artus_grayboot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artus_grayboot 75 Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2022 - I was under the impression that the Force theme was originally meant to be Obi-Wan's theme, but it was retconned to be the Force theme for Episode V. Other than that, Ewan McGregor's got some great stuff to say here. BB-8, crumbs and rpvee 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pando 140 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 On 27/05/2022 at 6:12 PM, Falstaft said: Some more transcribing done -- now in you all convinced me is the proper compound (12/8) meter. Here's roughly the first third of the piece: [EDIT: Fixed the first ostinato in light of @Docteur Qui and @Michael G.'s corrections. Not catching a *direct* Battle of the Heroes reference, @karelm, but the main tune itself has more in common with that theme than I realized at first. Measures 28 and 29 should be octave lower (along with the A at the end of 27). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,776 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Does anyone else find it weird that the piece is simply titled 'Obi-Wan'? Not Obi-Wan's Theme or The Return of Obi-Wan or anything else more similar to past JW themes? It's like the title itself is kind of an afterthought? It seems very unlike JW. I was expecting something more like The Adventures of Han or Rey's theme. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 7,214 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 9 hours ago, artguy360 said: Does anyone else find it weird that the piece is simply titled 'Obi-Wan'? Not Obi-Wan's Theme or The Return of Obi-Wan or anything else more similar to past JW themes? It's like the title itself is kind of an afterthought? It seems very unlike JW. I was expecting something more like The Adventures of Han or Rey's theme. Obi-Wan and Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,612 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Obi-Fanfare and Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 3,306 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 10 hours ago, artguy360 said: Does anyone else find it weird that the piece is simply titled 'Obi-Wan'? Not Obi-Wan's Theme or The Return of Obi-Wan or anything else more similar to past JW themes? It's like the title itself is kind of an afterthought? It seems very unlike JW. I was expecting something more like The Adventures of Han or Rey's theme. Maybe this is a hint, that this piece is actually about the resurrection of Obi-Wan, transformation from Ben back to Obi-Wan. Something like that. Or maybe it is because of the missing B-section in the theme. Not worth the effort having two words then in the title. artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 827 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 The Obi-Wan Scene and Finale BB-8 and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,612 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Outer Rim & The Ben Kenobi Fugue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 959 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Scherzo for hello there and orchestra. BB-8 and igger6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 902 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 On 28/5/2022 at 11:24 AM, Bespin said: With expansions, JW always gets his revenge! They gotta release these soon igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,612 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Selected Ben Themes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,070 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Finally listened to this. I hear a lot of Order 66 and Rogue One vibes. The recording sadly also sounds like a Giacchino one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,003 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I think I like the descending 4 note motif that ends the offical recording more than ostinato version that ends the revised llive performance. I am sure the latter will be the "official" end to the signature edition, and it does tie the piece together nicely, but the descending notes strike me as more dramatic. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,201 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 20 hours ago, Tom said: I think I like the descending 4 note motif that ends the offical recording more than ostinato version that ends the revised llive performance. I am sure the latter will be the "official" end to the signature edition, and it does tie the piece together nicely, but the descending notes strike me as more dramatic. Indeed it is better. Could be Holt/Ross' writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 281 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Getting nervous -- are we going to get an OBI WAN album this week or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 10,683 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 The master elements "could not be found". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,978 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 On 11/06/2022 at 12:42 AM, Sergeant said: Indeed it is better. Could be Holt/Ross' writing. It's 100% John's writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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