Indy 5 to begin recording Tuesday morning!

[Tom 4,002]

7 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

 

War Horse not winning actually ended all my emotional investment with the awards.

Memoirs did it for me.  

[Bellosh 2,686]

Just now, Tom said:

Memoirs did it for me.  

 

Would you believe in 2005 I only knew of John Williams because of Indy, star wars and e.t.??

 

But yeah that would have done it for me as well.

 

Actually if we're talking all time. Raiders is still technically his biggest Oscars snub.

 

[Docteur Qui 1,499]

Awards, schmawards. We know how good his music is, and he's already been nominated for Oscars more times than anyone else alive. But if they're your thing I imagine after his last two films are released he'll finally get the Lifetime Achievement Oscar, delivered by Spielberg himself.

[DangerMotif 897]

1 hour ago, Disco Stu said:

 

I wonder who his main competition at the Oscars might be.

 

Hildur has scored the new Todd Fields movie Tár that’s getting very positive buzz, I think that makes her possibly a front runner for a second nomination.

 

If the new Chazelle film Babylon comes out in December as planned, Hurwitz could be in there if the movie is well-received.

 

I doubt that Black Panther 2 could pull it off again in terms of Oscar noms, but I guess Goransson shouldn’t be counted out.

 

If Baumbach’s White Noise is really good, and the score is prominent, Elfman might manage his 5th nomination, that would be really cool.

 

They love to nominate Desplat, and his score for Del Toro’s Pinocchio seems like it could be a shoo-in

Unless Bernard Herrmann or John Barry come back to life JW should win for every score that he does. Sadly the Best Score award never goes to the best score

[Edmilson 5,674]

36 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

Actually if we're talking all time. Raiders is still technically his biggest Oscars snub.

 

I think Empire Strikes Back losing to Michael Gore's Fame was JW's biggest snub ever. 

[Bellosh 2,686]

10 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I think Empire Strikes Back losing to Michael Gore's Fame was JW's biggest snub ever. 

 

Yeah you're right too. But didn't the academy have some sort of unwritten rule about sequels?

[Edmilson 5,674]

3 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

 

Yeah you're right too. But didn't the academy have some sort of unwritten rule about sequels?

I think they probably didn't want a Star Wars movie to win again after ANH's victory in 1978. Still, Gore's victory was ridiculous. I never watched this Fame, but from what I know the movie is a musical, with a lot of songs and little underscore. So the Academy gave the award only because they liked the songs, which is very common (see The Little Mermaid in 89)

[DangerMotif 897]

44 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I think Empire Strikes Back losing to Michael Gore's Fame was JW's biggest snub ever. 

Empire not winning is bad but even worse considering what it lost to

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,223]

7 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Actually if we're talking all time. Raiders is still technically his biggest Oscars snub.

Don't forget Superman too before that

[King Mark 3,411]

23 hours ago, Tom said:

Memoirs did it for me.  

 Tros was the most dissapointing. I thought they'd give it to him as a sort of honor to his career

[Not Mr. Big 4,484]

4 hours ago, King Mark said:

 Tros was the most dissapointing. I thought they'd give it to him as a sort of honor to his career

It was too mangled in film to really justify it.  Still better than Joker though

[Andy 3,215]

I'll never forget the Oscars 1982.  My Grandmother got me the LP of Raiders of the Lost Ark for Christmas just a few months ago, but I was playing it heavily.  I think this was the first time I was aware that an award was even given for scores, and definitely around the time it crystallized for me that John Williams was responsible for the ones I loved.

 

I was watching the telecast, and ready to hear them say that the award would go to John Williams. 

 

And Chariots of Fire won.

 

And I went to bed an angry 9 year old.

 

And that was it for the Oscars for me ever since.

[Naïve Old Fart 8,685]

7 minutes ago, Andy said:

And that was it for the Oscars for me ever since.

What about 1983, and 1994?

Does E.T. mean nothing to you, damnit??!!!

[Andy 3,215]

They mean everything to me, but I learned quickly that the awards don't matter.

[Naïve Old Fart 8,685]

... and it's a good job that they don't. 

Jerry could/should have picked up at least 5 Oscars™ in his career. Instead, he got a measly 1. Oh, the humanity!

[Tom 4,002]

I wonder if we'll get a "Recording Wrapped" sort of tweet soon.  Williams seems to be hedging on his "last movie" intention, but either way, the last session would be a big deal.  

[Andy 3,215]

10 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

... and it's a good job that they don't. 

Jerry could/should have picked up at least 5 Oscars™ in his career. Instead, he got a measly 1. Oh, the humanity!

 

I guess one could argue that awards do matter in that they might've made Jerry Goldsmith a household name.  I shake my head listening to young film enthusiast podcasts discuss the greatest film composers and no mention of Jerry.  Perhaps if he'd had more than one statue.

[Disco Stu 15,483]

I really don't think it's the awards that made JW or would have made JG a household name.  JW got connected with the most successful directors and series of their time, Jerry did not.  Not a little bit of luck involved.

[Drew 571]

When do you think the sessions will be finished?

[BrotherSound 2,078]

JKMS is playing coy, but these sure look like JW sketches, presumably for Indy 5, so it seems recording is still very much in progress:

 

 

 

[DangerMotif 897]

37 minutes ago, BrotherSound said:

JKMS is playing coy, but these sure look like JW sketches, presumably for Indy 5, so it seems recording is still very much in progress:

 

 

 

These are JW’s sketches or William Ross’ orchestrations?

[Alex 2,694]

They’re just editing down the big 10 minute action set piece into a 2 minute concert suite for the OST

[DangerMotif 897]

38 minutes ago, Alex said:

They’re just editing down the big 10 minute action set piece into a 2 minute concert suite for the OST

it says "sketch to score proof reading" and they're working of of handwriten notes

[crumbs 13,540]

If it was just a fragment higher resolution we'd be able to make out the cue title! 

[King Mark 3,411]

2 hours ago, Alex said:

They’re just editing down the big 10 minute action set piece into a 2 minute concert suite for the OST

Can't wait to search  through the Lego game files

[BB-8 2,605]

With a Bleistift, ja ja.

[crumbs 13,540]

Disney had an Indy tribute at the Disney Chinese Theater tonight, but this recording of the Raiders March sounds a bit different than the 4 film scores.

 

Could be from anywhere I guess.

 

 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,380]

Certainly sounds like the Hollywood Studio Symphony, especially the trumpets.

[crumbs 13,540]

The thing that stands out for me are how loudly the bells are mixed at the end.

[Not Mr. Big 4,484]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

The thing that stands out for me are how loudly the bells are mixed at the end.

It has a winter level

[LB Makes Stuff 144]

Oh that sounds good if it’s new.

[JohnnyD 1,167]

19 hours ago, crumbs said:

Disney had an Indy tribute at the Disney Chinese Theater tonight, but this recording of the Raiders March sounds a bit different than the 4 film scores.

 

Could be from anywhere I guess.

 

 

I wondered why this was familiar. This is a section from Movie Magic, a nighttime show that is a tribute to Disney’s live action films. They started this show back in 2017, so the recording of Raiders March used there is not new.

 

Indiana Jones starts at 5:45 of the video and ends at 6:30.

[crumbs 13,540]

Good find! 

[Brando 1,377]

Not done with scoring?

 

[artguy360 1,776]

4 minutes ago, Brando said:

Not done with scoring?

 

Must be for that new ending JW mentioned.

[Brando 1,377]

3 minutes ago, artguy360 said:

Must be for that new ending JW mentioned.

Short Round Insert🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

[Tom 4,002]

I have been defending Mangold as truthful, but Williams saying he was scoring a reshot ending, Mangold having "no" idea what Williams could possible be talking about, and then this?  Why not just say "Williams misunderstood; he is rescoring a different scene" or such.

 

At the end of the day, it does not matter, except it being time better spent with. Williams working on something that he wanted to be working on by now.  No more JJ-like situations with this poor man.  

 

Edit: my new theory is Williams is recording music for a Super Bowl trailer.  One should note that this theory has a 100% chance of being wrong.  

[Alex 2,694]

I think someone had a word with her, because she’s deleted the tweet.

[enderdrag64 475]

20 minutes ago, Alex said:

I think someone had a word with her, because she’s deleted the tweet.

Anyone know what it said originally?

[mrbellamy 5,893]

She just said she was working on score prep for an upcoming Indy 5 session

[Jay 33,670]

It said "Working on Indiana Jones 5 music prep for John Williams today 😁🎵"

 

[Tom 4,002]

If my theory is right that Williams recorded music for a new trailer (most likely connected to the super bowl), then there is a good chance it was due to Mangold's exchange with the twitter complaint about the music of the the first trailer.

 

How is that for a double hypothetical?  

[Brando 1,377]

15 minutes ago, Tom said:

If my theory is right that Williams recorded music for a new trailer (most likely connected to the super bowl), then there is a good chance it was due to Mangold's exchange with the twitter complaint about the music of the the first trailer.

 

How is that for a double hypothetical?  

What is your theory?

[artguy360 1,776]

41 minutes ago, Tom said:

If my theory is right that Williams recorded music for a new trailer (most likely connected to the super bowl), then there is a good chance it was due to Mangold's exchange with the twitter complaint about the music of the the first trailer.

 

How is that for a double hypothetical?  

I'd love to be wrong, film directors often have little to no involvement with trailers and even less with the music selection. I especially doubt that a Twitter exchange would impact how the film is marketed.

[LB Makes Stuff 144]

I can see this being what’s going on, it would be rather random to record something so late. (Unless Marvel is connected to this, then it’s normal.)

1 hour ago, Tom said:

If my theory is right that Williams recorded music for a new trailer (most likely connected to the super bowl), then there is a good chance it was due to Mangold's exchange with the twitter complaint about the music of the the first trailer.

 

How is that for a double hypothetical?  

 

[Tom 4,002]

1 hour ago, Brando said:

What is your theory?

That the recording session mentioned on twitter is actually for a trailer.  

[igger6 827]

1 hour ago, LB Makes Stuff said:

I can see this being what’s going on, it would be rather random to record something so late. (Unless Marvel is connected to this, then it’s normal.)

 

 

That's it!  Williams is replacing Beck on ANT-MAN 3!!!  The Twitter comment inspired Mangold to take over reshoots for it, and he hired Williams to write a new score in three days!

[Brando 1,377]

1 hour ago, Tom said:

That the recording session mentioned on twitter is actually for a trailer.  

Oh right! That would be awesome.

[Edmilson 5,674]

31 minutes ago, igger6 said:

 

That's it!  Williams is replacing Beck on ANT-MAN 3!!!  The Twitter comment inspired Mangold to take over reshoots for it, and he hired Williams to write a new score in three days!

I was hoping Williams' first MCU score would be for an Avengers movie, not an Ant-Man sequel

[Amer 1,932]

Maybe Album version themes presentation only. I have a feeling the OST album might just have these as well as the trailer music like He did for HOOK.

 

Delusions of Grandeur...