Faleel 5,345 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 17 years later.... (from 2005) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted June 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2022 Martinland, Bayesian and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 663 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 "It wasn't until nearly 15 years after the release of Return Of The Jedi that the special boxed set for the Classic Trilogy was released. I doubt we'll have to wait nearly that long to hear the full saga in all it's sonic glory" And here we are 20 years later Brando and Edmilson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Groovygoth666 said: It wasn't until nearly 15 years after the release of Return Of The Jedi that the special boxed set for the Classic Trilogy was released. I doubt we'll have to wait nearly that long to hear the full saga in all it's sonic glory 1983 to 1993? (Wow, imagine if we had something as cool as the Arista set for the PT in 2015?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 663 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Tallguy said: 1983 to 1993? (Wow, imagine if we had something as cool as the Arista set for the PT in 2015?) That's what I thought, but that's what Steve Sansweet said ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. That would have been awesome, but we'd probably still be complaining about stuff that had been left off it till today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 That Arista set was such a miracle that while I wished for some of the missing material I certainly never "complained". I suppose I did complain that I had to keep my original Empire CD for the space slug. But that's different, right? Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brando 1,860 Posted July 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2022 Maybe its better it happened this way. MM's relationship with Williams grows stronger each new release/project, so he trusts him more and more as the years have gone by. Thats how I look at it. Andy, Manakin Skywalker, DangerMotif and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 In retrospect I'm glad it didn't happen back in the early 2000's/2010's. We surely would've had another UE situation on our hands with all the terrible micro-edits, missing music, etc. Andy and Brando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 59 minutes ago, Brando said: Maybe its better it happened this way. MM's relationship with Williams grows stronger each new release/project, so he trusts him more and more as the years have gone by. Thats how I look at it. Don't give me hope! New OR old! Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post enderdrag64 624 Posted July 2, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 27/06/2022 at 5:00 PM, enderdrag64 said: Hmm maybe that footage wasn't all filmed by the BBC after all. I just learned of the existence of this other documentary by French cameraman Michel Parbot which most people thought never existed until it made its way onto the internet in 2018: At 55:40 here you can see a lot of the same recording sessions footage, but without any voiceover. There's some footage here that isn't in the other documentary and vice versa I found even more of this footage! In much better quality too. This comes from the Enhanced Edition ebook of J.W. Rinzler's "The Making of Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back": ESB_JohnWilliams_clip3_ProRes.mp4 Interestingly, even though the audio is largely the same, lots of the accompanying shots are different (especially in the first half), making me think that one of the two sources is edited, if not both of them. There's definitely footage edited out of this clip because there's an obvious jump cut at 0:18 BrotherSound, Brando, Manakin Skywalker and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 Okay I've determined the recording session footage in Empire of Dreams is actually fake. They just took some of the existing footage from the Empire sessions and digitally replaced what was on the projector with ANH footage. You can tell because all of the orchestra players are wearing the same clothes as the Empire sessions, the camera angle is the same, and you can sort of see a border on the projector where they made their digital alterations Tallguy, Fabulin, Brando and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, enderdrag64 said: and you can sort of see a border on the projector where they made their digital alterations Huh, pretty dang obvious actually. Colour footage with finished effects, higher resolution/cleaner than the rest of the picture, perfectly filling in the screen... GerateWohl, enderdrag64 and Brando 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Yeah I thought that would've been obvious to everyone. Also note the massive resolution different between the footage on screen and the session footage itself. The footage on screen is quite sharp, whereas the session footage is very blurry. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 Yeah I don't know how I didn't realize that, I guess I just didn't look too hard at it the first time I saw it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 14 hours ago, enderdrag64 said: Okay I've determined the recording session footage in Empire of Dreams is actually fake. They just took some of the existing footage from the Empire sessions and digitally replaced what was on the projector with ANH footage. You can tell because all of the orchestra players are wearing the same clothes as the Empire sessions, the camera angle is the same, and you can sort of see a border on the projector where they made their digital alterations No film crew or cameras were present at the 1977 recording sessions of Star Wars at Denham. Lots of pictures were taken though, you can see quite a few of them printed as contact sheets in the booklet of the 1993 Arista anthology boxset. You can find several of them online as well. Brando and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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