Jurassic Park 2-CD (La-La Land) - 5th Of July 2022

[Andy 2236]

Well, to be fair, what has near the appeal of Star Wars, and why should that deter LLL?  I imagine any Jurassic title has a huge fanbase.

[Brando 873]

3 hours ago, crumbs said:

 

I wondered that too, but they'd be pigeon-holing themselves if they ever wanted to expand JP3 or the JW trilogy (which obviously have no book covers).

 

More likely they retain the same layout as the Jurassic Park reissue but change the colour and texture of each cover to reflect the films.

• TLW: Yellow with broken rock texture
• JP3: Spinosaurus with red metallic texture
• JW: T-Rex with blue metallic texture
• JWFK: T-Rex with orange molten lava texture
• JWD: T-Rex with yellow amber texture

 

I'm guessing a box set of the Giacchino scores is high on their wishlist (and Gia scores seem to avoid AFM fees, which would only affect JW1 anyway).

Oooooo I really like this idea. Also thought the DVD covers were a good idea too. The 3 Raptors for TLW is so pretty looking.

[Matt S. 458]

On 27/07/2022 at 10:30 AM, crumbs said:

 

I wondered that too, but they'd be pigeon-holing themselves if they ever wanted to expand JP3 or the JW trilogy (which obviously have no book covers).

 

More likely they retain the same layout as the Jurassic Park reissue but change the colour and texture of each cover to reflect the films.

 

Yeah, it was just a thought.  Besides which, using TLW's novel-style cover would probably never be approved by the studio since (at least as far as I remember) that image was never used for the film's marketing.

[crumbs 12625]

2 hours ago, Matt S. said:

 

Yeah, it was just a thought.  Besides which, using TLW's novel-style cover would probably never be approved by the studio since (at least as far as I remember) that image was never used for the film's marketing.

 

I actually remember some cool unused logo designs on the first DVD release of The Lost World, which included some alternate T-Rex poses that echoed the book cover. 

[Richard Penna 2510]

On 27/07/2022 at 5:56 PM, Andy said:

Well, to be fair, what has near the appeal of Star Wars, and why should that deter LLL?  I imagine any Jurassic title has a huge fanbase.

 

Please don't mistake my comments for any negative connotations - I'd love a JW box to happen.

 

But they are all comparatively recent scores and Dominion is already pretty comprehensive, and as such it would surprise me if LLL were planning to put resources into a lavish set.

[fommes 131]

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It's when 3M2 The Dinosaurs ends and 3M2A The Entrance Of The Park begins, basically when it segues from the glory of the dinosaurs scene to the jeeps traveling to the visitor center.  On the album version Johnny made in 1993, they are overlapped so closely, you are still revealing in the majesty of the dinosaur music when it fairly abruptly jumps to the jeep-traveling music.  But in the film itself, and therefore in the new main program, more of the recorded opening of 3M2A is heard before the fast part of the cue begins.  It sounds sooooooooo much better this way!  I love it so much.

I seem to remember that in the score as it was written 3M2A also entered a beat or measure later.

My copy is still underway so haven't heard it yet, but does the film version match the written score?

[JohnnyD 1111]

Yes.

[Jay 31058]

IIRC the overlap of cues in the final film doesn't exactly match what the sheet music says, but its closer to the sheet music's overlap than the album version

[Brando 873]

It all lined up perfectly when I compared the film rip and the film version in audacity.

[SpotTheDog 26]

So this is the second purchase I've made from La-La Land (the first being Schindler's List, although in retrospect that was to bleak a place to start my collection). However, Schindler did move from "Awaiting Fulfillment" to "Awaiting Shipping" to "Shipped" within two days.

 

I'm sorry if this ends up derailing the thread, but since I can't find this information elsewhere, I was just wondering, as I wait for my order status to change: 

 

1. Does LLL process orders on weekends? I know they have a very small team.

 

2. Does the popularity of the item I order determine how long it takes to fulfill? Or is it just based on the queue of payments that comes in?

 

3. Is Jurassic Park reserved for me once I order it, or is there a chance that "Awaiting Fulfillment" might mean that it will sell out before they reach my spot in line?

 

Sorry for so many anxious questions, I just do not want to miss out on this score a second time. I can't believe I slept on it for so long, just because I wasn't interested in Dino theme parks. Absolutely sublime music.  

[Jay 31058]

1 hour ago, SpotTheDog said:

1. Does LLL process orders on weekends? I know they have a very small team.

 

Nah

 

1 hour ago, SpotTheDog said:

2. Does the popularity of the item I order determine how long it takes to fulfill?

 

Of course 

 

1 hour ago, SpotTheDog said:

Or is it just based on the queue of payments that comes in?

 

Yea

 

1 hour ago, SpotTheDog said:

3. Is Jurassic Park reserved for me once I order it

 

Yea

 

1 hour ago, SpotTheDog said:

, or is there a chance that "Awaiting Fulfillment" might mean that it will sell out before they reach my spot in line?

 

Nope

[SpotTheDog 26]

15 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Nah

 

 

Nah

 

 

Yea

 

 

Nah

 

 

  Thank you

[Amer 1774]

As far as I know it was expected to be back in stock by Friday. So all pending orders would have started shipping by now.

[SpotTheDog 26]

40 minutes ago, Amer said:

As far as I know it was expected to be back in stock by Friday. So all pending orders would have started shipping by now.

Ooh, I didn’t realize it went out of stock at all. Or do you mean it was backordered but they were still accepting purchases?

 

Either way, that’s a good sign for the popularity of this release. 

[Amer 1774]

7 hours ago, SpotTheDog said:

Ooh, I didn’t realize it went out of stock at all. Or do you mean it was backordered but they were still accepting purchases?

 

Either way, that’s a good sign for the popularity of this release. 

Yes because I called them to place my order. So hope fully our order's are on their way. SAE and Intrada are also expecting their stock.

[SpotTheDog 26]

Side note: Is the OST still in print, or is this a counterfeit being sold by Amazon?

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000002OOY/

 

I can't find it new on any other websites.

[Jay 31058]

The original OST album has never gone OOP

[SpotTheDog 26]

On 07/08/2022 at 4:33 AM, Amer said:

Yes because I called them to place my order. So hope fully our order's are on their way. SAE and Intrada are also expecting their stock.

I still wasn't able to confirm any information about a backorder/delay in receiving stock, but my order just changed to "Awaiting Shipment," so hopefully yours will, too!   

[Jay 31058]

Mike Matessino discusses this release with @TownerFan and @mahler3 on the latest episode of The Legacy of John Williams!

 

https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2022/08/20/spielberg-williams-podcast/

 

In the episode you will hear stories about how the Live to Projection concert led to the remix of Dennis Steals The Embryo even being possible, why the 2016 4-CD set did not have an OST album rebuild, and lots more.  Give it a listen!

[Brando 873]

6 minutes ago, Jay said:

Mike Matessino discusses this release with @TownerFan and @mahler3 on the latest episode of The Legacy of John Williams!

 

https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2022/08/20/spielberg-williams-podcast/

 

In the episode you will hear stories about how the Live to Projection concert led to the remix of Dennis Steals The Embryo even being possible, why the 2016 4-CD set did not have an OST album rebuild, and lots more.  Give it a listen!

Sweet! I was hoping they would touch upon this new release/new tracks. I’ve been listening to it on my way to work this week and I’m a little over the halfway mark.

[Holko 8034]

6 hours ago, Jay said:

Mike Matessino discusses this release with @TownerFan and @mahler3 on the latest episode of The Legacy of John Williams!

 

https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2022/08/20/spielberg-williams-podcast/

 

In the episode you will hear stories about how the Live to Projection concert led to the remix of Dennis Steals The Embryo even being possible, why the 2016 4-CD set did not have an OST album rebuild, and lots more.  Give it a listen!

And Mike even mentions you as his buddy!

[Jay 31058]

I thought he said "our" buddy?

[Andy 2236]

[Luke Skywalker 1440]

Darth vader is disney i suppose

[Amer 1774]

..But where and who is .......... Leia? 

[Luke Skywalker 1440]

Received my copy today. Will listen to it later. Nice to see the yellow jurassic logo on the backcover. Back in the day all official merchandise for both jp and tlw, had the yellow logo.

[Holko 8034]

22 hours ago, Andy said:

Jay earlier this year when he saw two consecutive JW/MM releases without his involvement.

[Luke Skywalker 1440]

Just for the record..I ordered from music box records. it was a batch that arrived last week. so i assume it is the second LLL batch.

 

The "blip" in T-Rex rescue is not fixxed...in case someone wanted to rebuy it thinking they would have corrected it.

[igger6 762]

Doesn't this start shipping tomorrow?  How are people getting them already?

[crumbs 12625]

1 hour ago, Luke Skywalker said:

The "blip" in T-Rex rescue is not fixxed...in case someone wanted to rebuy it thinking they would have corrected it.

 

There's also (to my ears) a very noticeable volume dip for the alternate take in Journey to the Island Film Version, when the helicopter lands at the foot of the waterfall. Nobody else seems to be able to hear it but it's very obvious around the cymbal crash that ends the previous take.

 

And yeah, the annoying digital artifact a few seconds prior that's been on every release since the 20th anniversary (including the previous LLL). Not sure why that's never been fixed but it's super irritating once you've heard it. Must be inherent in the source, unless someone can confirm the original pressing of the OST didn't have it.

[Holko 8034]

The JTTI problem that my ears pick up is the performance edit when we go from inside the helicopter to outside, seeing the island for the first time. The first note comes from a take where the brass is heavier and the strings take a backseat, then we switch to a take with the strings much much heavier for the rest of the phrase and its repeat, and the brass taking a backseat, and it even seems to me like part of that first note is cut off in the process, making the already not that great tempo switch more jarring. I had to loop and fiddle a lot to make that perfect for myself.

[Richard Penna 2510]

Are those issues just inherent in the recording, or at least the switch between takes used in the film?

 

IOW, is the film version just a bit untidy? The 2016 set version sounds fine to me - I didn't particularly care for the variation of the landing section you can hear in the film.

[Holko 8034]

 

Same transition in the film but somewhat covered up by the helicopter.

[Brando 873]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

 

There's also (to my ears) a very noticeable volume dip for the alternate take in Journey to the Island Film Version, when the helicopter lands at the foot of the waterfall. Nobody else seems to be able to hear it but it's very obvious around the cymbal crash that ends the previous take.

Isn’t this the mis-take that makes both tracks different?

[Luke Skywalker 1440]

6 hours ago, igger6 said:

Doesn't this start shipping tomorrow?  How are people getting them already?

Oh, then i shouldnt have the new batch. Unless resellers had priority restocking…which i doubt

[QuartalHarmony 236]

6 hours ago, crumbs said:

unless someone can confirm the original pressing of the OST didn't have it.

Give me a time stamp and I’ll happily have a listen to my 1993 OST and report back.

[Nemesis 152]

Just listened to the set. What about that annoying volume drop at 1.22 of Journey To The Island (Film Version CD1 Track 5) and Journey To The Island (CD2 Track 4)? Luckily this isn't present on the OST!

[GerateWohl 2536]

14 hours ago, Nemesis said:

Just listened to the set. What about that annoying volume drop at 1.22 of Journey To The Island (Film Version CD1 Track 5) and Journey To The Island (CD2 Track 4)? Luckily this isn't present on the OST!

I haven't listened to it. But it's a film version. Probably, in the movie someone was speaking. To make that audible maybe they lowered the volume. But I would have expected that such things get fixed in an audio release.

[Luke Skywalker 1440]

That would be a film stem, this set does not use them. With speakers i didnt hear any volume dip.

[Jay 31058]

5 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

I haven't listened to it. But it's a film version. Probably, in the movie someone was speaking. To make that audible maybe they lowered the volume. But I would have expected that such things get fixed in an audio release.

 

While there have been specialty label albums in the past that pulled music from a film's music stem, and sometimes volume dips inherent in the stems aren't adjusted in these situations - this album is not one of these scenarios. 

 

Mike built this entire set from scratch using a digital transfer of the original analog music recordings. 

[blondheim 1020]

I’ve listened to this set a lot in both headphones and speakers and can confirm: no volume dips.

[Nemesis 152]

There is a minor volume dip. Just listen to the OST from 30 years ago and then compare.

[blondheim 1020]

43 minutes ago, Nemesis said:

There is a minor volume dip. Just listen to the OST from 30 years ago and then compare.

Where? Timestamp?

[Luke Skywalker 1440]

On 31/8/2022 at 6:16 PM, Nemesis said:

Just listened to the set. What about that annoying volume drop at 1.22 of Journey To The Island (Film Version CD1 Track 5) and Journey To The Island (CD2 Track 4)? Luckily this isn't present on the OST!

 

[Jay 31058]

I saw this paperback edition of The Lost World at Amoeba yesterday that reminded me of the new cover art here

 

 

[blondheim 1020]

I really can’t hear any difference. Does anyone else hear anything?

[Nemesis 152]

It's agood thing if you can't hear it. It's really annyoing if you realize it...

[QuartalHarmony 236]

My copy just arrived and I'm enjoying it greatly. One question:

 

On the list of musicians, there's a guitarist credited but I can't hear a guitar anywhere so far. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 

Mark

[Bespin 6830]

A guitarist, that's usefull to play some "gling-gling" in the few soft parts.

[Laserschwert 278]

On 24/11/2022 at 3:19 PM, QuartalHarmony said:

On the list of musicians, there's a guitarist credited but I can't hear a guitar anywhere so far. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

You mean this guy?