Jay 33,749 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 For the 2016 box set, the AFM provided a combined list of musicians that played in either score that went into the booklet. (since they were only 4 years apart, many players were the same anyway) For this reissue, they provided a list that was supposed to be just the ones that played on JP. Maybe someone at the AFM made a mistake and left the TLW guitar player listed, I dunno. (there's guitar in TLW for Reading The Map) Whatever they provide goes into the release as-is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 323 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 23 hours ago, Jay said: Maybe someone at the AFM made a mistake and left the TLW guitar player listed, I dunno. (there's guitar in TLW for Reading The Map) A very convincing theory, Jay. I suggest we go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 988 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I placed my order for this since it didn't find its way under my Christmas tree Hopefully this means there's a JW release from LLL next month! Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpotTheDog 39 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere before, but I can't find it: Are "Theme From Jurassic Park" and "End Credits" on the original album unique performances, or just unique edits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 33,749 Posted January 28 Popular Post Share Posted January 28 "Theme From Jurassic Park" is a unique opening and ending recorded just for the album, with a film cue ("The Dinosaurs") in the middle. "The Dinosaurs" is also in the middle of "Journey To The Island" on both disc 1 and disc 2 - exactly same performance of the exact same music in all 3 spots. "End Credits" is the second half of the end credits suite. Identical performance to the second half of "Welcome To Jurassic Park", the album track that contains the entire end credits suite. So yes, Williams put "The Dinosaurs" on the OST album twice, and he put the second half of the end credits on the OST album twice. Trope, Brando and SpotTheDog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 2,715 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Does anyone else think 'Hungry Raptor' sounds incredibly different than every other cue on this score. It sounds like an alternate. Every time it comes on I feel like I'm listening to a different score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,749 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Yes! When I first heard it (in the end credits of the documentary), I thought it was some other composer riffing on Johny's carnivore theme. It was shocking to find out it was part of the score that just didn't make the final film or album Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 1,966 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 21 minutes ago, Bellosh said: Does anyone else think 'Hungry Raptor' sounds incredibly different than every other cue on this score. It sounds like an alternate. Every time it comes I feel like I'm listening to a different score. Agreed, especially the way it opens and the driving rhythmic take which just kinda barrels along with bits of the raptor/monster motif over the top. I remember hearing it with the original expanded version (pre-LLL) and being quite startled. Kinda not that surprising it wasn't used, although it feels a bit like it was written to be tracked in as required, rather than for a specific scene, although I assume it's meant to be for the kitchen sequence. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,749 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 No, it's for Laura Dern being chased after she turns the power back on. The whole LLL album is in chronological order. The second half of the cue is used in the film, for the "clever girl" scene where the raptors kill Muldoon. But that part of the cue wasn't used in the documentary end credits, so we didn't know it was the same cue until we saw the sheet music TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,622 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I wonder if it had been on the film all along it would sound so different or not. Jurassic park gate has some lost worldy percussion and it does feel a natural part of the score anyway… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,051 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I like to think of it as the Stalling-esque variation that takes the “video presentation” sound to its horrific extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,971 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 16 hours ago, Bellosh said: Does anyone else think 'Hungry Raptor' sounds incredibly different than every other cue on this score. It sounds like an alternate. Every time it comes on I feel like I'm listening to a different score. It does and It's easily my least favourite cue in the score. It's so hyper and uses the raptor motif in a far less spooky and dangerous way - it's a very strange cue taken with the rest of the score. There are times when a cue goes unused for a reason. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 8,718 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 17 hours ago, Bellosh said: ...'Hungry Raptor'... "Hungry Raptor"? They're always bleedin' hungry! Have you ever offered a raptor any meat, only for it to say: "Nah, you're alright, mate, I'm full"? Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat_S 46 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Have you ever offered a raptor any meat, only for it to say: "Nah, you're alright, mate, I'm full"? Can't say I've ever had the chance to, no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 2,715 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 10 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: "Hungry Raptor"? They're always bleedin' hungry! Have you ever offered a raptor any meat, only for it to say: "Nah, you're alright, mate, I'm full"? I'm not getting the reference 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,258 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 “Hungry Raptor” is one of my most played tracks from any Jurassic score, behind only “The Hunt” and “Rescuing Sarah.” Presto and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 1,853 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 It's a weird one. Most of the unused music in the first film is like, "Yeah, that would have been unnecessary." But the unused parts of this cue would have straight-up ruined the scene with their zaniness. The tracked music in the final cut works infinitely better. Much scarier. That being said, I enjoy the cue on its own—particularly when the carnivore theme comes crashing back in at the end. Bellosh and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,749 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Yea, that part is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,296 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I like the piano bit of the Dies irae like motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousMan 4 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 On 29/4/2023 at 6:57 PM, Bellosh said: Does anyone else think 'Hungry Raptor' sounds incredibly different than every other cue on this score. It sounds like an alternate. Every time it comes on I feel like I'm listening to a different score. No, I don't think it's an alternate. I'm convinced it's the only existing version. Maybe there's an unexplained arrangement detail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,078 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 10 minutes ago, CuriousMan said: No, I don't think it's an alternate. I'm convinced it's the only existing version. Maybe there's an unexplained arrangement detail? There’s certainly nothing in JW’s sketch to indicate it’s an alternate: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 406 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 22 hours ago, CuriousMan said: No, I don't think it's an alternate. I'm convinced it's the only existing version. Maybe there's an unexplained arrangement detail? I think all Bellosh meant was that the cue doesn't sound like it fits in with the rest of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 1,966 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: I think all Bellosh meant was that the cue doesn't sound like it fits in with the rest of the score. I think that’s what was meant too and I’d have to agree. It’s fun, but quite a left field take on the material compared to the rest of the action music (especially at the start of the cue). If memory serves, it wasn’t used in the film (or at least was used in bits, I don’t have the liner notes to hand…) and, as someone said when it as discussed earlier, it sounds more like someone else’s take on JW’s JP material (sequel or video game style) than something JW wrote himself even though he clearly did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,640 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I adore it and don't think it's that far off from the most fun bits of T-Rex Rescue & Finale. Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,749 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 12 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: If memory serves, it wasn’t used in the film (or at least was used in bits, I don’t have the liner notes to hand…) The action-based first half of the cue (intended for the raptor chasing Ellie out of the shed) isn't used at all; It's completely replaced by music tracked in from other cues instead. The second half of the cue (Muldoon's "clever girl" scene) is mostly used, however the ending of the cue is dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousMan 4 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 On 4/9/2023 at 4:38 PM, BrotherSound said: There’s certainly nothing in JW’s sketch to indicate it’s an alternate: Nope. As suspected. Thanks for the proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,051 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 It does have a slightly different sound; a little Stalling-esque, maybe. If that’s true, it is almost a dark extension of the video demonstration music. The dinosaurs are alive and have come through the screen to eat you! (Which besides being just what happens in the movie, the raptors sort of actually do this in the kitchen sequence when the raptors appear behind drawings of themselves.) I know I’m reaching a little here but when you make smart, intelligently structured art, connections form you may not even have been aware of yourself when writing. Anyway, that’s my head canon. Hungry Raptor is the score’s Stalling Around sound taken to its violent conclusion. Whether he did it on purpose or whether it was just all floating around in his head doesn’t much matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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