Patriot Games & Clear and Present Danger coming from LLL, July 5 2022

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

 

Both scores are back!

[bruce marshall 1,315]

Wow!

Someone beat Jay to it!😉😙😙

 

 

 

So, this is the FIRST time JP expanded is available on CD as a standalone?

 

Nice!

[crocodile 8,012]

Patriot Games looks like a straight reissue but Clear and Present Danger is "expanded". Curious. I do actually like this one.

 

Karol

[Yavar Moradi 2,599]

12 minutes ago, crocodile said:

Patriot Games looks like a straight reissue but Clear and Present Danger is "expanded". Curious. I do actually like this one.

 

I think when Intrada did their expansion there were some alternate film versions missing, or something? We'll find out the details soon. It is my favorite of the two scores.

 

I hope they've rearranged Patriot Games at least to include the complete score on Disc 1 and bonuses on Disc 2 instead of just splitting across the discs based on time alone.

Yavar

[OneBuckFilms 319]

This could be very interesting. I love Intrada's Clear and Present Danger.

[Edmilson 7,439]

I thought both PG and CaPD had already been expanded... 

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

They should give all the details now… it is not these are premiere releases of a long sought score…

 

i mean…there is really hype to fuel?

[Bespin 8,481]

I'll try to get Clear and Present Danger.

[Yavar Moradi 2,599]

37 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I thought both PG and CaPD had already been expanded... 

 

They have. These are reissues (but CaPD apparently with some improvements).

Yavar

[Corellian2019 386]

7 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

 

I think when Intrada did their expansion there were some alternate film versions missing, or something? We'll find out the details soon. It is my favorite of the two scores.

 

Yes, the film has extra piano overlays during this scene (starting at 2:00) that are absent from previous releases of "Ambush".

 

And "Deleting The Evidence" on the Intrada release had an alternate ending compared to the film and the previous OST. Neither the OST or the Intrada release had the film take of the metallic striking sound heard at 0:08 in this scene (sounds like cymbals?)

[lairdo 726]

I love the Clear and Present Score. One of my favorite Horner scores (which is saying something given how many great movies he composed). 

 

I actually worked on the sound edit for about a week in June of 1994, moonlighting from Sony in the evenings to help a friend of mine get all the dialogue finished. I worked on the scene where the drug lord bad guy is in the batting cage and switches from Spanish to English dialogue. It was a lot of fun to be on the Paramount lot and to help on the movie in some small way.

[fommes 153]

These two scores I count among my favourite Horner scores as well, nice to see they're back. I made a custom playlist back in the day assembling a 'bonus tracks' album containing the alternate or film version material from both; curious to see what will be new on the CAPD album.

[Corellian2019 386]

CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET)
LLLCD 1596
Music by James Horner
Limited Edition of 2000 Units

RETAIL PRICE: $26.98

STARTS SHIPPING JULY 5

 

Order yours from www.lalalandrecords.com starting 12 noon (pst) on 7/5

 

La-La Land Records and Paramount Pictures proudly present a remastered and expanded 2-CD soundtrack reissue of acclaimed composer James Horner’s (STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN, ALIENS, GLORY, TITANIC) original motion picture score to the 1994 feature film dramatic thriller CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER, starring Harrison Ford, James Earl Jones and Anne Archer, and directed by Phillip Noyce. Previously out of print, Horner’s propulsive orchestral score to the hit Jack Ryan dramatic thriller returns with this deluxe, stellar-sounding remastered presentation, expanded with previously unreleased music. Teeming with smoldering drama and explosive action, Horner’s dynamic and intricate score is a sensational work that takes its place among the composer’s finest 90s thriller/action titles. Produced by Dan Goldwasser and mastered by Doug Schwartz from the studio’s original high-resolution Sony MSD-1200 Digital Audio Master Discs, this 2-CD presentation also features the film version of the main titles for the first time on a soundtrack release and includes exclusive, in-depth liner notes by writer Jeff Bond and classic art design by Goldwasser. This is a Limited Edition of 2000 Units.

 

TRACK LISTING:

 

DISC 1
SCORE PRESENTATION
1. Main Title / A Clear and Present Danger (film version)§** 5:36
2. President’s Mission 1:20
3. Jack’s New Office 1:45
4. Greer Signs Memo 0:51
5. Cortez Arrives in U.S. 1:14
6. Jack Briefs FBI / President 1:00
7. Operation Reciprocity 3:26
8. Blow Up Narcotics Plane§ 2:03
9. Try Lindo Brand 1:25
10. Fire In The Hole 1:57
11. Moira’s Fatal Phone Call 1:46
12. The Ambush (film version)* 9:58
13. Jack Calls Cathy / Casket Arrival 2:52
14. The Laser-Guided Missile 3:49
15. Jack Sees Bombing 1:06
16. Looking for Clues (film version) 3:45
17. Cortez Is Watched 2:49
18. Greer’s Last Hospital 1:52
19. Deleting the Evidence 4:45
20. Greer’s Funeral / Betrayal§ 6:30
TOTAL DISC TIME: 59:49

 

DISC 2
SCORE PRESENTATION (CONT.)
21. Chavez Sees Prisoners 1:35
22. Escobedo’s New Friend – Part 1 3:34
23. Second Hand Copter 2:23
24. Rebuffed 1:18
25. Escobedo’s New Friend – Part 2 1:48
26. Cortez Kills Escobedo 2:59
27. Finding the Prisoners 1:35
28. Jack Creates Diversion 1:39
29. Woodroom / Finale** 4:37
30. Jack Argues With President 2:08
31. Truth Needs a Soldier / End Title 5:57
TOTAL SCORE TIME 29:33

 

1994 ALBUM VERSIONS
32. Main Title / A Clear and Present Danger 5:30
33. The Ambush 10:02
34. Looking for Clues 3:42

 

ALTERNATES
35. Second Hand Copter (alternate)* 2:20
36. Finding the Prisoners (alternate) 1:39
37. Woodroom / Finale (alternate)** 4:29
38. Main Title / A Clear and Present Danger (alternate opening excerpt)* 0:53
TOTAL BONUS TIME: 28:35
TOTAL DISC TIME: 58:08
TOTAL ALBUM TIME: 117:57

 

*previously unreleased
** contains previously unreleased material
§ contains material not used in the film

 

Hooray for the film version of "The Ambush"! However, there's only one version of "Deleting The Evidence" here--wonder which one they went with...

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

Here's the tracklist and info for Patriot Games too

 

La-La Land Records and Paramount Pictures proudly present the 30th Anniversary re-issue of our previously out-of-print remastered and expanded soundtrack of acclaimed composer James Horner’s (STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN, ALIENS, GLORY, TITANIC) original motion picture score to the 1992 feature film dramatic thriller PATRIOT GAMES, starring Harrison Ford, James Earl Jones, Anne Archer and Sean Bean, and directed by Phillip Noyce. Horner’s intense, Irish-tinged score returns to delight fans of the composer and the hit film. It’s a notable work that expertly supports this political thriller’s complex characterizations, brooding intrigue and white-knuckle suspense. Produced by Dan Goldwasser and mastered by Mike Matessino, Horner’s masterful PATRIOT GAMES score shines throughout this 2-CD set, which also contains in-depth liner notes by writer Jim Lochner and newly reworked art design by Goldwasser. This is a limited edition of 2000 Units that features the same master and content as our 2013 release.

 

DISC 1

1. Main Title (3:01)

2. Attempt on the Royals (3:53)

3. CNN News Report*/Sean’s Interrogation* (2:41)

4. Kevin Walks Away*/Deadly Lover*/ Sean’s Trial* (1:46)

5. Sean Obsessing in Jail*/Highland’s Execution (4:59)

6. Strange Cargo* (1:36)

7. The Hit (8:11)

8. Hospital Vigil*/Jack Returns to CIA*/Studying Sean’s File* (3:38)

9. Arrest of the Bombers (1:35)

10. Putting the Pieces Together/Reading to Sally*/Sean’s Midnight Call* 

(6:12)

11. Girl in Photo*/Cooley Escapes* (3:39)

12. Two-Edged Surveillance* (1:59)

13. Electronic Battlefield* (film version) (3:22)

DISC TIME: 46:31

 

DISC 2

1. Assault on Ryan’s House (10:59)

2. Boat Chase/Aftermath* (5:28)

3. Closing Credits* (film version) (4:13)

BONUS TRACKS

4. Harry’s Game (P. Brennan) (2:34)

performed by Clannad

5. Hospital Vigil* (alternate) (1:53)

6. Electronic Battlefield (orchestra only) (3:20)

SOURCE CUES

7. Washington Post March* (J.P. Sousa) (1:29)

8. Whelan’s Jig* (Traditional) (2:07)

9. The Hunt* (Traditional) (3:29)

10. Piano Trio in E-Flat, Op. 14 (K. 498)* (W.A. Mozart) (1:35)

11. Piano Sonata in B-Flat, Op. 17, No. 1 (K. 333)* (W.A. Mozart) (1:56)

12. Closing Credits (album version) (4:18)

DISC TIME: 43:21

 

TOTAL ALBUM TIME: 89:52

 

*previously unreleased

Vocal performances by Maggie Boyle

except ”Harry’s Game” performed by Clannad, produced by Richard Dodd

[Jay 37,359]

12 hours ago, Corellian2019 said:

DISC 1
SCORE PRESENTATION
1. Main Title / A Clear and Present Danger (film version)§** 5:36
2. President’s Mission 1:20
3. Jack’s New Office 1:45
4. Greer Signs Memo 0:51
5. Cortez Arrives in U.S. 1:14
6. Jack Briefs FBI / President 1:00
7. Operation Reciprocity 3:26
8. Blow Up Narcotics Plane§ 2:03
9. Try Lindo Brand 1:25
10. Fire In The Hole 1:57
11. Moira’s Fatal Phone Call 1:46
12. The Ambush (film version)* 9:58
13. Jack Calls Cathy / Casket Arrival 2:52
14. The Laser-Guided Missile 3:49
15. Jack Sees Bombing 1:06
16. Looking for Clues (film version) 3:45
17. Cortez Is Watched 2:49
18. Greer’s Last Hospital 1:52
19. Deleting the Evidence 4:45
20. Greer’s Funeral / Betrayal§ 6:30
TOTAL DISC TIME: 59:49

 

DISC 2
SCORE PRESENTATION (CONT.)
21. Chavez Sees Prisoners 1:35
22. Escobedo’s New Friend – Part 1 3:34
23. Second Hand Copter 2:23
24. Rebuffed 1:18
25. Escobedo’s New Friend – Part 2 1:48
26. Cortez Kills Escobedo 2:59
27. Finding the Prisoners 1:35
28. Jack Creates Diversion 1:39
29. Woodroom / Finale** 4:37
30. Jack Argues With President 2:08
31. Truth Needs a Soldier / End Title 5:57
TOTAL SCORE TIME 29:33

 

1994 ALBUM VERSIONS
32. Main Title / A Clear and Present Danger 5:30
33. The Ambush 10:02
34. Looking for Clues 3:42

 

ALTERNATES
35. Second Hand Copter (alternate)* 2:20
36. Finding the Prisoners (alternate) 1:39
37. Woodroom / Finale (alternate)** 4:29
38. Main Title / A Clear and Present Danger (alternate opening excerpt)* 0:53
TOTAL BONUS TIME: 28:35
TOTAL DISC TIME: 58:08
TOTAL ALBUM TIME: 117:57

 

*previously unreleased
** contains previously unreleased material
§ contains material not used in the film

 

Anyone besides me notice for the press release they didn't start over at track 1 for disc 2, but kept counting upwards from where disc 1 leaves off (track 20)?

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

They dumped the itunes playlist…

[Frank Vincent 234]

50 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Anyone besides me notice for the press release they didn't start over at track 1 for disc 2, but kept counting upwards from where disc 1 leaves off (track 20)?

 

Not only for the press release. Source: www.warmbutter.com

 

[Jay 37,359]

Interesting!
 

https://warmbutter.com/albums/clear-and-present-danger/

https://warmbutter.com/albums/patriot-games-30th-anniversary/

 

 

 

~

Samples and direct order:

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/patriot-games-30th-anniversary-limited-edition-2-cd-set/

https://lalalandrecords.com/clear-and-present-danger-limited-edition-2-cd-set/

[Corellian2019 386]

You're right!!  How could I have missed that...

[Smeltington 1,440]

wtf?!?

[Bayesian 1,363]

It seems like they continued the numbering because the score presentation does not all fit on a single disc. Resuming the count from where they left off at the end of disc 1 makes it easier for the reader (listener) to tell that disc 2 continues the presentation, and that reaching the end of disc 1 doesn't mean you've finished anything.

 

For the sake of my OCD, I'll probably edit the metadata when I rip this to Apple Music to indicate that this release is a single CD.

[Smeltington 1,440]

It's unbelievable that someone would design a CD insert that way on purpose. If you put CD 2 in your player and want to hear "Rebuffed", you would go to track 4 on the disc, not track 24.

 

But if it wasn't done on purpose, it's hard to believe no one noticed, so I'm at a loss here.

[NL197 368]

It’s been corrected quietly. I’m looking at this on my iPad and it's corrected. On my desktop which I guess has it cached, it’s the original one. 

 

desktop screenshot: 


 

iPad screenshot:

 

[ManofDestiny 71]

Wasn't "Main Title / A Clear and Present Danger (film version)" has already been release on Intrada's set?

Why it stated that this is "contains previously unreleased material"?

 

I don't want to buy a new set every time for a few unreleased alternate cues. So pass this time.

[Jay 37,359]

On 05/07/2022 at 6:41 PM, ManofDestiny said:

Wasn't "Main Title / A Clear and Present Danger (film version)" has already been release on Intrada's set?

Why it stated that this is "contains previously unreleased material"?

 

The material Intrada put in that track is now the final bonus track here. The actual film version wasn't released before

[Smeltington 1,440]

14 hours ago, NL197 said:

It’s been corrected quietly.

 

Well thank god!! Now let's see what version actually ships...

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

toothless!

[Indianagirl 298]

I just ordered both Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger. For those of you who have been collecting for years how common is it for a soundtrack boutique shop like lalaland or intrada to re-release cd's that have long ago gone out of stock? Is it fairly common or quite rare? 

 

There are so many out of stock titles I'd love to see brought back. 

[Yavar Moradi 2,599]

Horner, Goldsmith, or Williams scores from friendly studios which sell out? Not rare.

 

Other composers, or more difficult studios? Very infrequent.

 

Yavar

[Bespin 8,481]

I try to create a playlist to reconstruct the OST from Clear and Present Danger, using the 2022 reissue.

 

Track 8 of the OST is 5:28 (Escobedo's New Friend).

 

The combining of the two parts from the Score presentation makes a total of 5:03.

 

WTF?

[Jay 37,359]

That's an easy one, that album track combined pieces of 3 different cues, which are called "Escobedo’s New Friend – Part 2", "Escobedo’s New Friend – Part 1", and "Jack Argues With President" on the 2022 LLL CD.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/117bUYVCSjcwM28N3f30IbMasx0kPzJGe09gNZsx5szM/

[Bespin 8,481]

Access denied.

 

Okay, but it need an EDIT to reproduce the album cue, we can't just merge the three tracks.

 

So I need to purchase the OST, if I really want to listen to the OST program.

[Jay 37,359]

Sharing is open now

 

The order those 3 cues appear in the old album track is Part 2 then Part 1 then Jack Argues With President

[Bespin 8,481]

This score needs an entry on that Chronological Score website... your spreadsheets follows a logic only you can understand, but I repeat myself, I already told you that.

[Jay 37,359]

It's very logical, it lists the new album on the left and tells you where those cues are on the old OST album on the right.  Simple.

[Bespin 8,481]

You green-blooded Vulcan!

 

[thestat 348]

Two very good scores, but ultimately the real amazing find in both these complete scores was CPD's Don Davis-influenced Woodroom/Finale that was already released on the Intrada. Are the new alternatives to do with the first three minutes of Davis goodness or an edit of the Horner theme at the end? That is, if I buy this new set, do I get new alternatives/ compositions for the final helicopter battle or is it all about edits for Ryan's post-rescue?

To explain further, a key piece of music was missing from the Milan 1994 CD of Clear and Present Danger which was included on the complete edition. It is a fantastic piece and sounds a bit more than more like Don Davis who was orchestrating for Horner at the time (there's also suggestions on the FSM board that Davis did The Ambush, which sounds much more challenging since the first 4-5 minutes are 48 Hours variations)

 

[OneBuckFilms 319]

I picked up the La-La Land Clear and Present Danger, and it seems to have improved audio from Intrada's release.

 

I'm late to this upgrade, but it sounds great to my ears.

[Trope 527]

I grabbed Clear and Present Danger last year, and I quite enjoy the orchestral sections of the score, especially the action writing - "The Ambush" is a highlight in that regard. The extended synth/shakuhachi portions do become a little dull after a while though, especially as their musical construction is so simplistic and repetitive. I've made an "orchestra-only" playlist which I honestly prefer to listen to. And while I don't have the older Intrada edition to compare it with, I think the LLL audio sounds good overall.

 

On another note, I noticed that some of the takes used in the LLL release are different compared to the 1994 OST. What grabbed my attention was the trumpet flub at 3:28 in "Truth Needs a Soldier / End Title" on the LLL, which is not present at the same spot on the OST due to that section of the piece using another take. I haven't checked which take was used on the older Intrada release. I'm not intimately familiar with every track in this score, so there may be other different takes that I haven't picked up on, but the end titles is one of my favourite pieces and so it stood out to me. 

[OneBuckFilms 319]

The Main Title, The Ambush and Truth Needs a Soldier are certainly different to the OST, and I think the Intrada release had the wrong takes for some of the film versions.

 

It's a loooong score, and the synth / sakuhachi cues are not my favorites, but Woodroom / Finale is an absolute highlight.

 

This score can certainly get the adrenaline pumping.

[fommes 153]

The OST, Intrada and LLL use different takes for several cues, and it's a mess to figure out!

[OneBuckFilms 319]

This is true, but as far as I can tell, the LLLR is mostly accurate to what is in the film.

 

This makes it as close to definitive as we can currently obtain and I’m very happy with it.

[Corellian2019 386]

My only compliant is the missing staccato piano overlays from "The Ambush" and the unreleased film take of "Deleting The Evidence", but other than that, it looks like a fantastic set

[John F 100]

Due to this post bump I ran over to Lala and purchased Danger for $20. Hoping they lump it with LW which hasn’t shipped yet so I don’t pay double for shipping. These rerereleases are going to put me in the poor house lol.

[Amer 2,107]

I already have the Intrada edition (still sealed )of A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. Do I need to really upgrade this as well? 

 

Same with GORKY PARK but that one has some substantial improvement so I am going for it.

[Jay 37,359]

Sell your Intrada, buy the LLL, it has 4 new tracks

 

On 07/08/2022 at 2:03 PM, Jay said:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/117bUYVCSjcwM28N3f30IbMasx0kPzJGe09gNZsx5szM/

[A. A. Ron 1,742]

And it’s not mastered by Doug Fake!

[OneBuckFilms 319]

I swear by the LLLR version, and have passed on my Intrada copy for someone else to discover flipping through CDs.

 

Sound quality there is a slight improvement (IMHO), and having the actual film version of the  Main Title and The Ambush are the key reasons I upgraded.

[Amer 2,107]

So I ordered this along with GORKY PARK and LOST WORLD. The irony is I already have expanded versions of these titles and yet these newly ordered are expansions of the previous expanded albums. Hilarious.

[Trope 527]

I ordered Patriot Games along with The Lost World. I don't own the OST or previous expansions for either score, so I'm very keen to listen through them. I've read online that Patriot Games is more atmospheric and ambient compared to Clear and Present Danger, which is often described as an action score.