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Bear McCreary's The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings of Power (2022)


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Boy its been a busy week.  I finally have time to share my thoughts on the episode 7 album now.

 

Overall, I would say its one of the lesser episode albums.  This is largely due to the season album already covering most of its highlights, though as always there are some good highlights that aren't on it.  "Nine for Mortal Men" is one of them - it was so cool to hear the Forging motif again, and yet another new, wonderful, long-lined version of the Rings of Power theme.  I also really liked "Shattered Illusion"; Even though we had the Eregion middle part on the season album, it now being book-ended by statements of Sauron's theme leads to much more interesting track than only having the middle part would have led you to believe.  "The Orc Camp" was a standout too, just because it features different types of action/suspense writing than what dominates most of the album, and it was fun to hear Elrond, Arondir, and Galadriel's themes all playing together.

 

But my biggest problem with the album is, I guess contrary to what some people here have said, I don't think it flows very well.  The way the album kind of alternates between tracks that combine a bunch of action music together and tracks that don't make it feel less like a flowing album and more like a collection of various ideas, to me.  There's one really weird part where the first ~2:20 of "The Battle for Eregion Begins" is a wonderful, solid piece of music that should have been its own track, but instead awkward segues to the bit that opened up the whole "Battle for Eregion" track on the season album, and it should have opened up a track here too.  Then later around 4:52 or so there's another climactic moment that just crossfades to another opening-style moment.  These things make the track feel too "stop and go"-y when there's so much crossfading of cues with their own big climaxes in one long track.

 

So I dunno, watching the episode might change my mind, but these are my initial impressions of the episode album.  I like all the music here, basically, just can't jive with the way its been presented to us here.

 

Oh!  And the Damrod music used as an actual cue is indeed better than the too-hardcare concert arrangement version.  I really love the swirling, chaotic strings in the track, it reminds me of the music for the robot ship thingies in The Matrix.  And then working Noble Warrior, Elrond, and Arondir action variants into the mix is really something else!

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I particularly love the end of Damrod - some great brass and choral material. I think he should've put this on the OST instead of the concert type arrangement, which I removed from my playlist. I just can't stand that amplified and largely isolated vocal, which is more buried in this track.

 

I agree with the sequencing issues to some extent, but if you watch the episode I think it makes a bit more sense - I was surprised by the amount of jumping around in the show and how broken up the action parts were, so unless Bear went full concept on us and put the action material in one huge track, I think it was difficult to escape this sequencing and Bear took his chance to make a version that flows better on the OST.

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Yes, the ending of the Damrod track is awesome, and definite season highlight material for me too.  The concert arrangement of Damrod's theme is literally the only tracks in the entirety of all the albums from both seasons that I just don't need to return to.

 

 

So having seen episode 7, I kind of like the album even less.  The way the music is used in the episode is really good, rising and falling action at just the right time, everything spread out nicely, nice little action moments that climax then something else happens before another one, etc.  But this episode album is just a crossfaded mess of all kinds of bits joined together to make these long suite tracks that don't do any of it justice.  I feel like in attempting to not make the music seem too chaotic and all over the place because the episode has all this rising and falling action, he went too far in the other direction and combined too much stuff together.

 

Another disapointment is the use of Noble Warrior/ Nolwa Mahtar. In season 1 it was this great one-off melody that perfectly amplified the heroic nature of Galadriel riding into a battle that seemed utterly lost to save the day.  And it was so neat to hear it used as the Season 2, episode 1 title card.  But now here at the end of season 2 its WAYYYY overused in this siege!  I thought it would represent some kind of heroic moments, but instead its used simply as the theme for the Lindon elves doing ANYTHING in this battle, meaning we heard it A LOT.  It gets used so much, it dilutes its once great majesty.  Holding it back until later in the episode, and only being used for some big hero moments, would have been way better use of it in my opinion.  Oh well.

 

I also want to say that the Adar / Orcs theme makes a huge impression in the episode.  There was a cool shot where we actually see an orc drumming the beat on screen and Bear's cue was perfectly in sync with it.  Really fun!

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Kinda explains why he included all those arrangements that used it on the early albums though. (Not that it really needed an explanation or anything.)

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Was just gonna share it, haha. Earlier than expected and I hope he clarifies some of the new themes and motifs associations and their meanings!

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14 minutes ago, Jay said:

and potential future new theme alert :lol:

 

Surviving his dive and seeking an ally, Elrond sneaks to a seaport known as the Grey Havens, supported by a quick woodwind quotation of his theme. As the camera pulls back across this iconic location from Tolkien’s writing, I introduce a serene chorale, built from two unrelated major chords followed by surprising minor chords. The singers gently offer the Quenya words “Mistalondi, nóri Eldaron,” meaning “Grey Havens, Elven lands.”

To declare this passage the Grey Havens theme as of now would be a bit of a stretch, since it only occurs once in the series so far. Should the narrative require a theme for this place in the future, however, the musical sees are planted here for a proper Grey Havens theme down the line.

 

I already called out this theme!

 

On 31/08/2024 at 12:11 AM, TheUlyssesian said:

Now I did notice another motif, that may or may not be a motif - 0:00 to 0:24 is Cirdan is played over an introductory establishing shot of The Grey Havens - a key location in the mythos. But I don't think it returns. But if it does, it could be a Grey Havens motif.

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Friday confirmed for the episode albums showing up on other services:

 

As of this Friday, October 4, all eight episode-specific soundtrack albums for The Rings of Power season two will be available to stream on all platforms.

 

 

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2 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

I already called out this theme!

 

I've now listened to it (0:00-0:24 of "Cirdan") a few times, and its lovely!  I could totally see it getting expanded into a full concert arrangement in the future.

 

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So he has a lot to cover in the episode 2 blog: Rhûn, Eregion, Deception, and the unknown theme that later returns in episode 7 and 8.  Though I would bet he'll push discussion of that theme to the episode 7 blog, like how he pushed Rhûn into the 2nd episode blog.

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Great blog! It's nice to know about all those little details you guys mentioned above. I really hope that choral passage from Círdan becomes a motif for the Grey Havens because it's so beautiful, and I like that its sonically related to the Valinor theme, which makes sense story-wise.

 

Also, he mentions several times the rhythmic patter usually played under Adar's theme as a sort of separate idea, and I've noticed that in this season it plays a lot of times on its own. For example, To Serve the Lord of Mordor has it in a very slow variation at the middle of it, and it's all over the action in Eregion sometimes joined by Adar's theme and the Nampat chant but other times playing on its own or alongside other themes.

 

And what he mentions about Golden Leaves makes me think it wasn't really intended as a theme for Gil-galad, but just a song that fit that scene, and that was later refered to in instrumental form at the beginning of the episode. That could explain why it hasn't returned again since. Altough I guess it could properly become his leitmotif later on in the show.

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Yes that's actually one of my biggest disappointments with the season.  In Episode 1 the theme fit his character so well, I loved the theme's introduction when he is first seen, and the full song version sung onscreen at the end of the episode and then reprised in the end credits.


I was so bummed when the them never returned for his other appearances throughout the season, especially in episode 7 when he gets in on the action!

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What I keep wondering is if this melody is what Bear mentioned in Season 1 about a future Gil-galad theme or if perhaps is something else we have yet to hear in future seasons if he becomes more prominent. But as mentioned, he does have several moments this season where the theme could've returned but it didn't. I might try to ask him in twitter where he usually answers fan's questions.

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6 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said:

What I keep wondering is if this melody is what Bear mentioned in Season 1 about a future Gil-galad theme or if perhaps is something else we have yet to hear in future seasons if he becomes more prominent. But as mentioned, he does have several moments this season where the theme could've returned but it didn't. I might try to ask him in twitter where he usually answers fan's questions.

He supposedly revealed in an Instagram live stream that, as you say, he has an idea for Gil-Galad's theme, and Golden Leaves is not it.

I'm not sure what I think of this approach, as he has stated something similar with the Eregion theme too (it supposedly didn't need a theme in S1). Won't the pay-off be even greater with consistent set-up? Consider if Shore didn't bother to put the Gondor theme in the Council of Elrond, because "Gondor didn't need a theme yet"?

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He mentioned 2 years ago that he wanted to write a Gil-galad theme?

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He mentioned in his blog about episode 1 of season 1 when talking about the piece of music that goes alongside Gil-galad's gifting ceremony:

 

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I have a more specific theme for Gil-galad planned, but it does not occur in the first season

 

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So he planned a theme during season 1, wrote a different theme for him in one episode of season 2, then didn't use that theme or introduce his original plan for any other his other appearances in other episodes this season?

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Nice!

 

I found the Sea Worm theme btw

  • Season 1, Episode 2, "Adrift" from 2:15-3:30
  • Season 2, Episode 1, "Dawn of the Second Age" from 10:20-11:05
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1 hour ago, Monoverantus said:

He supposedly revealed in an Instagram live stream that, as you say, he has an idea for Gil-Galad's theme, and Golden Leaves is not it.

I'm not sure what I think of this approach, as he has stated something similar with the Eregion theme too (it supposedly didn't need a theme in S1). Won't the pay-off be even greater with consistent set-up? Consider if Shore didn't bother to put the Gondor theme in the Council of Elrond, because "Gondor didn't need a theme yet"?

 

To be fair Shore knew exactly what the story was. With a TV show that's never possible.

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29 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said:

To be fair Shore knew exactly what the story was. With a TV show that's never possible.

I think it's impossible to go into composing the score for an adaptation of the Second Age and not anticipate that Gil-Galad and Eregion will be narratively important.

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5 minutes ago, Monoverantus said:

I think it's impossible to go into composing the score for an adaptation of the Second Age and not anticipate that Gil-Galad and Eregion will be narratively important.

 

So you would think, but television is more mired in uncertainty than you can imagine. It is a problem of emphasis. Sure, we know Gil Galad will play an important role. But so far, he's only been a supporting character. I think it is perfectly natural for Bear to tackle scores on a per-season basis. He doesn't yet have the full measure of the entire decade-long story arc. 

 

Like Williams didn't write a theme for Vader until episode 5.

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27 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said:

Like Williams didn't write a theme for Vader until episode 5.

I'm pretty sure Bear himself has said that he imagines if John Williams could go back in time and put the Imperial March in ANH, he probably would. Quite ironic to think he might end up in the same spot.

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47 minutes ago, Jay said:

He just wrote a BETTER theme for the sequel :)

 

Which is a very normal thing: So, in Valkyrie Siegfried has this theme and then in Siegfried he also gains this theme. The so-called "House of Durin", though hinted at in An Unexpected Journey, doesn't really come to the fore until The Desolation of Smaug.

 

Perhaps the thing that makes the Williams' example more unique is that the original motive drops out of the storytelling.

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You know what I mean. We also might be at a point of excess of themes.

 

If he needs a theme for Gil Galad performing heroic deeds, Nolwa Mahtar can suffice that need too as it is an Elvish action theme.

 

I am personally not too bothered by the absence of a major theme for Gil Galad. The writing and directing (which Bear doesn't do) haven't positioned him as a primary character yet. If and when they do and he merits a theme, I am sure Bear will accommodate. He seems only two happy to write new themes!

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I didn't mean to imply that I'm bothered by a lack of theme for Gil-galad; I was merely saying that I LIKE the theme he gets in episode 1 a lot, and then was bummed it didn't show up again

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1. True Wealth of the Mountain (6:04)
2. Confronting the Dark Wizard (3:34)
3. The White Flame (6:11)
4. Sauron and Celebrimbor (2:30)
5. No Passage for Low Men (5:16)
6. Wounds That Have Endured (4:18)
7. The Fall of Galadriel (12:06)
8. Shadow and Flame (feat. Rory Kinnear and Daniel Weyman) (16:01)

 

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2024/10/02/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-season-2-episode-8-shadow-and-flame-soundtrack-albums-details/

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So Old Tom Bombadil reprise is definitely in that last track. Guess River Daughter really never was used, unless it’s the end credits for this ep.

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I just copy-pasted what Film Music Reporter posted!

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45 minutes ago, Taikomochi said:

So Old Tom Bombadil reprise is definitely in that last track. Guess River Daughter really never was used, unless it’s the end credits for this ep.

 

Based on the track’s placement on the album, I’m inclined to believe that it was intended as an Episode 4 track—that maybe Goldberry was originally going to have slightly more of a role. Either that, or Bear just wanted to give her an actual song on the album, based on her brief (audio) appearance in the episode.

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The River-daughter isn't on the episode 8 album and yeah, it seems like it was either recorded to go in episode 4 then cut by the showrunners from that episode, OR it was just something Bear recorded for the season album as a treat for the fans

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And it's a fucking great album! Strangely, even though so much of it was on the OST, I really got the "season finale, stuff concluding" vibes that I was missing from the end of the OST (since S1 had it).

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Yeah, it feels more satisfying having all 8 episode albums and then concluding with those two really long tracks! And it helps that there are some great variations on themes that weren't as prominent on the season release.

 

I really like the Númenor material in The White Flame, especially how the Finale motif os joined by the Faithful theme in a vocal rendition leading to the remaining section of Army of Orcs. And speaking of Adar's theme, it's great to hear some unexpectedly bright variations on Wounds That Have Endured.

 

At first I felt some of the new themes like Eregion or Estrid were a bit sidelined, but after hearing their development I feel they're pretty well used. Eregion got lots of moments to shine in these last three episodes and really makes an emotional impact. And while Estrid's theme should have been more prominent, No Passage for Low Men finally features some satisfying renditions of her theme, even with an appearance of the b section of the theme!

 

And those two last tracks are awesome! Last Temptation works great as The Fall of Galadriel with the extended material, altough I feel the last track works better with its three respective tracks on their own instead of one long piece of music.

 

Planning on going to the very beginning of the season and listen to the whole thing through to hear how it works as an overall listening experience!

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What is Adar's theme in Wounds That Have Endured?  I swear I heard the Valinor theme in there but I'm probably wrong

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Having listened to the entire score of the season, I have to say: this is really outstanding work. Some of the best TV music of the century.

 

However... I really don't care for the "Avatar-style choir" that we listened in the dark wizard-related tracks. Ever since Avatar itself I found that style of choir kinda annoying. But it has since been reused in John Powell's Solo and now here.

 

Can someone tell me what this kind of choir music is called? Who invented and where did it originated? It's not something Horner came up out of thin air when he was writing Avatar, right? 

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59 minutes ago, Jay said:

What is Adar's theme in Wounds That Have Endured?  I swear I heard the Valinor theme in there but I'm probably wrong

It also plays at 0:12 of that track in the bright variation I mentioned, and at 1:44 played by low strings!

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18 minutes ago, Taikomochi said:

I believe it’s a Bulgarian choir

 

 

This sounds a little TOO much like Rhun lol

Bear just typed "Bulgarian choir" on Youtube and clicked on this exact video lol

 

But personally I find this kind of choir too weird, somewhat annoying but also unintentionally funny. It's appropriate for representing exotic mystical stuff in fantasy/sci-fi but not my favorite though. 

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42 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Having listened to the entire score of the season, I have to say: this is really outstanding work. Some of the best TV music of the century.

 

However... I really don't care for the "Avatar-style choir" that we listened in the dark wizard-related tracks. Ever since Avatar itself I found that style of choir kinda annoying. But it has since been reused in John Powell's Solo and now here.

 

Can someone tell me what this kind of choir music is called? Who invented and where did it originated? It's not something Horner came up out of thin air when he was writing Avatar, right? 

 

Funnily enough, the Dark Wizard stuff actually doesn’t remind me of Horner’s Avatar, but what absolutely does remind me of it this season is moments like 1:05 in “Last Temptation.” That sounds rhythmically/stylistically way more similar to Horner, IMO.

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After these last three episode soundtracks, I think “Army of Orcs” is standing out as a real highlight of Bear’s skills as an album arranger. Very cool to have a track that compiles some of the best Orc battle bits from three (!) separate episodes.

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