Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 45th Anniversary Edition La-La Land Records

[Jay 39,241]

 

It's a re-issue of the 2017 2-CD setwith a slightly modified booklet and new catalog number.

 

Limited to 5,000 copies.

 

Available to purchase Tuesday, August 9th, 2022, at 12:00PM PST.

 

https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/pfbid02PNKyv1VFyTHt6TqhZWKBk4zKeMjntUnA7igVZz3tcCLJ4GcyM9pzHVdFhya25UEl

 

 

The track list and samples are available in the page for the 2017 edition:

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-40th-anniversary-limited-edition-2-cd-set/

[Holko 10,158]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

with a slightly modified booklet

Did you mean booklet cover or does it have something like added lines at the end about the suite being performed in Berlin?

[Jay 39,241]

The booklet has numerous changes throughout

[Luke Skywalker 1,933]

i can live without an updated booklet...

 

but now i still need something to pair JP with.

 

Intrada, LLL, varese, do you remember "Heartbeeps"? it's the only expanded score not re-released yet!* (and i dont have it!)

 

 

*or one of the few remaining.

[phbart 623]

It's the perfect occasion because I missed the 40th anniversary edition back in 2017. Now this 45th anniversary will happily sit next to my 35th anniversary E.T.. My OCD appreciates it.

 

 

 

(jokes aside, I'm really really glad those are back in print)

[Chewy 2,496]

2 minutes ago, phbart said:

Now this 45th anniversary will happily sit next to my 35th anniversary E.T..

 

But which one will sit with your 40th anniversary E.T.? You need to find a copy of the 40th anniversary CE3K  

[Jay 39,241]

3 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:

"Heartbeeps"? it's the only expanded score not re-released yet!

 

This does not compute.  Heartbeeps had no "expansion", because it never had an OST album at all; All that exists is a catalog release from Varese Sarabande released 19 years after the movie came out (and 21 years ago now!)

 

And, there are actually more catalog John Williams scores that are Out of Print, then there are ones that are In Print

 

Out Of Print:

1. Bachelor Flat (1962)
2. The Ghostbreaker (1965)
3. Lost In Space (1965-1968)
4. How To Steal A Million (1966)
5. A Guide For the Married Man (1967)
6. Fitzwilly (1967)
7. Land of the Giants (1968)
8. Heidi (1968)
9. Goodbye, Mr. Chips (1969)
10. Pete N Tillie (1972)
11. The Cowboys (1972)
12. The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing (1973)
13. Tom Sawyer (1973)
14. The Paper Chase (1973)
15. Conrack (1974)
16. Jaws (1975)
17. The Missouri Breaks (1976)
18. Family Plot (1976)
19. Black Sunday (1977)
20. Jaws 2 (1978)
21. Midway (1978)
22. The Fury (1978)
23. Dracula (1979)
24. 1941 (1979)
25. Heartbeeps (1981)
26. Monsignor (1982)
27. The River (1984)
28. Amazing Stories (1985)
29. Stanley & Iris (1990)
30. Home Alone (1990)
31. Hook (1991)
32. Home Alone 2: Lost In New York (1992)
33. Rosewood (1997)
34. The Lost World (1997)

In Print:

1. Diamond Head (1963)
2. "The Bronze Locust" episode of "The Eleventh Hour" (1963)
3. John Goldfarb, Please Come Home! (1965)
4. None But The Brave (1965)
5. Nightwatch (1965)
6. Penelope (1966)
7. The Time Tunnel (1966)
8. Not With My Wife You Don't! (1966)
9. Fiddler on the Roof (1971)
10. Images (1972)
11. The Poseidon Adventure (1972)
12. The Long Goodbye (1973)
13. Earthquake (1974)
14. The Towering Inferno (1974)
15. The Eiger Sanction (1975)
16. Superman: The Movie (1978)
17. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1979)
18. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
19. SpaceCamp (1986)
20. The Empire of the Sun (1987)
21. Always (1989)
22. Presumed Innocent (1990)
23. Far and Away (1992)
24. Jurassic Park (1993)
25. Schindler's List (1993)
26. Saving Private Ryan (1998)
27. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001)
28. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
29. Minority Report (2002)
30. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
31. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
32. War of the Worlds (2005)

[Holko 10,158]

13 minutes ago, Jay said:

This does not commute.

I dunno, the story of the robots going away from the factory and coming back pretty much is a daily commute.

 

(EDIT: typo fixed)

[Jay 39,241]

In terms of Williams scores that have been revisited by labels more than once (outside of the normal OST -> 1 expansion), we have

 

Different programs:

1. The Fury OST -> 1990 -> 2002 -> 2013
2. Star Wars OST -> 1993 -> 1997
3. Empire Strikes Back OST -> 1993 -> 1997
4. Return of the Jedi OST -> 1993 -> 1997
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark OST -> 1995 -> 2008
6. ET OST -> 1996 -> 2002 -> 2017
7. Lost In Space 1997 -> 2005 -> 2015
8. Close Encounters OST -> 1998 -> 2017
9. Poseidon Adventure 1998 -> 2010 -> 2019
10. The Missouri Breaks OST -> 1999 -> 2013
11. Jaws OST -> 2000 -> 2015
12. Superman OST -> 2000 -> 2008 -> 2019
13. The Towering Inferno OST -> 2001 -> 2019
14. Home Alone 2 OST -> 2002 -> 2012
15. The Long Goodbye 2004 -> 2012
16. Fitzwilly 2004 -> 2013
17. Home Alone OST -> 2010 -> 2015
18. Jurassic Park OST -> 2013 -> 2016 -> 2022

Straight reissue 

1. 1941 by MM / LLL:  2011 -> 2015
2. AI by MM / LLL: 2015 -> 2001
3. The Long Goodbye by Quartet 2012 -> 2015
4. Close Encounters by MM / LLL 2017 -> 2022
5. E.T. by MM / LLL 2017 -> 2022

 

I'm purposely excluding releases that are just the OST album (Jane Eyre, Monsignor, SpaceCamp, Accidental Tourist, etc)

[Holko 10,158]

And Raiders?

 

(EDIT: typo fixed)

[Andy 5,110]

43 minutes ago, Jay said:

The booklet has numerous changes throughout

New photos?  Different text?  Are you allowed or able to be more specific?

[Luke Skywalker 1,933]

17 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

This does not compute.  Heartbeeps had no "expansion", because it never had an OST album at all; All that exists is a catalog release from Varese Sarabande .

 

And, there are actually more catalog John Williams scores that are OOP than are currently in print

 

OOP:

1. Bachelor Flat (1962)
2. The Ghostbreaker (1965)
3. Lost In Space (1965-1968)
4. How To Steal A Million (1966)
5. A Guide For the Married Man (1967)
6. Fitzwilly (1967)
7. Land of the Giants (1968)
8. Heidi (1968)
9. Goodbye, Mr. Chips (1969)
10. Pete N Tillie (1972)
11. The Cowboys (1972)
12. The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing (1973)
13. Tom Sawyer (1973)
14. The Paper Chase (1973)
15. Conrack (1974)
16. Jaws (1975)
17. The Missouri Breaks (1976)
18. Family Plot (1976)
19. Black Sunday (1977)
20. Jaws 2 (1978)
21. Midway (1978)
22. The Fury (1978)
23. Dracula (1979)
24. 1941 (1979)
25. Heartbeeps (1981)
26. Monsignor (1982)
27. The River (1984)
28. Amazing Stories(1985)
29. Stanley & Iris (1990)
30. Home Alone (1990)
31. Hook (1991)
32. Home Alone 2: Lost In New York (1992)
33. Rosewood (1997)
34. The Lost World (1997)

 

 

I didnt mean in print. I meant having had re-releases in expanded form (re-re-release in the case of home alone.

 

Those in bold have have at least two official releases (in expanded form)

[Holko 10,158]

7 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said:

I didnt mean in print. I meant having had re-releases in expanded form (re-re-release in the case of home alone.

He made another post.

[BB-8 3,898]

What was "The Collector's Edition Soundtrack" on ARISTA all about, and was this carried over to the 2017/2022 editions?

 

Is there a comparative table guiding throw the tracks?

[Holko 10,158]

2 minutes ago, BB-8 said:

What was "The Collector's Edition Soundtrack" on ARISTA all about, and was this carried over to the 2017/2022 editions?

 

Is there a comparative table guiding throw the tracks?

Jay's google doc has the answers on the right tabs.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13xG67JUrP2f-H7bihKWvZsObfB5oOyXhuS6G6SRiCzE/edit#gid=0

[Jay 39,241]

These John Williams scores have been tackled by a specialty label once, went OOP, and have never been reissued or expanded further:

1. Bachelor Flat (1962)
2. The Ghostbreaker (1965)
3. How To Steal A Million (1966)
4. A Guide For the Married Man (1967)
5. Land of the Giants (1968)
6. Heidi (1968)
7. Goodbye, Mr. Chips (1969)
8. Pete N Tillie (1972)
9. The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing (1973)
10. Tom Sawyer (1973)
11. The Paper Chase (1973)
12. Conrack (1974)
13. Family Plot (1976)
14. Black Sunday (1977)
15. Jaws 2 (1978)
16. Midway (1978)
17. Dracula (1979)
18. Heartbeeps (1981)
19. Monsignor (1982)
20. The River (1984)
21. Amazing Stories (1985)
22. Stanley & Iris (1990)
23. Hook (1991)
24. Rosewood (1997)
25. The Lost World (1997)

 

These John Williams scores only have an OST album and have received no official expansion (FYC albums nonwithstanding)

1. 1967 Valley of the Dolls
2. 1987 The Witches Of Eastwick
3. 1988 The Accidental Tourist
4. 1989 Born On The Fourth Of July
5. 1991 JFK
6. 1996 Sleepers
7. 1995 Nixon
8. 1995 Sabrina
9. 1997 Seven Years In Tibet
10. 1997 Amistad
11. 1998 Stepmom
12. 1999 Angela's Ashes
13. 2000 The Patriot
14. 2002 Attack of the Clones
15. 2002 Catch Me If You Can
16. 2004 The Terminal
17. 2005 Revenge of the Sith
18. 2005 Memoirs Of A Geisha
19. 2005 Munich 
20. 2008 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
21. 2011 The Adventures of Tintin
22. 2011 War Horse
23. 2012 Lincoln
24. 2013 The Book Thief
25. 2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens
26. 2016 The BFG
27. 2017 The Post
28. 2017 Star Wars: The Last Jedi
29. 2019 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

These John Williams scores have no (official) release of any kind

1. 1958 Daddy-O
2. 1960 Because They're Young
3. 1960 I Passed For White
4. 1961 The Secret Ways
5. 1963 Gidget Goes To Rome
6. 1965 The Killers
7. 1966 The Rare Breed
8. 1966 The Plainsman
9. 1969 Daddy's Gone A-Hunting
10. 1970 Storia di una donna (Story of a Woman)
11. 1972 The Screaming Woman
12. 1974 The Sugarland Express

 

[Luke Skywalker 1,933]

• 1987 The Witches Of Eastwick
• 1988 The Accidental Tourist
• 1989 Born On The Fourth Of July
• 1991 JFK
• 1996 Sleepers
• 1995 Nixon
• 1995 Sabrina
• 1997 Seven Years In Tibet
• 1997 Amistad
• 1998 Stepmom
• 1999 Angela's Ashes
• 2000 The Patriot
• 2002 Catch Me If You Can
• 2004 The Terminal

This is my wishlist now for the labels. All Williams scores from the 80s through the AFM 2005 "rule of thumb (middlefinger, actually)"

 

SW and indiana jones will come eventually from disney...i suppose.

[Marian Schedenig 8,934]

So do all these re-releases add up to the 5 promised Williams albums soon?  Also: Oh no, now we all have to buy it AGAIN!

Seriously though, I wish they'd include an edit of the finale without the gap before the credits. I think I'd actually buy it again just for that. (I know I could do it myself if I just fiddled around with Audacity enough)

[Jay 39,241]

Mike indicated 5 new expansions were coming as well as reissues

 

Presumed Innocent and SpaceCamp are 2 of the new expansions

 

JP, CE3K, and ET are the reissues

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,474]

And I bet The Lost World will the another reissue after all the number 1594 is unused so far...

 

Anyway this great to have such a magical score to be back in print for new generations of fans. This one of the greatest score of all time and everyone should be given the possibility to hear this masterpiece.

[GerateWohl 4,987]

The 1998 edition of CE3K always seemed such a perfect presentation of the score. Are the improvements of the expansion that significant?

[Jay 39,241]

There's some great music on the LLL set that is not on the 1998 set, like "Watching The Skies", "Stars And Trucks"*, "The Dark Side of the Moon",  and "The Approach"

 

Plus everything sounds better, and the source music Williams recorded is really neat (especially 11th Commandment and Lava Flow)

 

*my bad I forgot Stars and Trucks was actually on the 1998

[GerateWohl 4,987]

But not the synthesizer version from the bonus single of the original LP?

[Jay 39,241]

The disco version of the CE3K theme is not included on the 1998 Arista release or the LLL release.

[Bellosh 3,894]

this release is worth it for 'Watching the Skies' alone

[Jay 39,241]

So good it should be in the main program!

[Marian Schedenig 8,934]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Mike indicated 5 new expansions were coming as well as reissues

 

[QuartalHarmony 648]

I’m very happy the specialist labels seem to be establishing a method whereby sold-out Limited Editions can be effectively re-released without the lawyers getting overexcited and stopping it.

 

As a result, I’m going to be able to get ET and JP, despite missing out on both the first time around. Whiners gonna whine, but I’m happy about it.

 

Mark

[Datameister 2,254]

I'm thrilled that these are getting re-released! I listen to both CE3K and ET quite a bit. Fantastic releases of fantastic scores. I admit I usually listen to my own chronological version of the CE3K release, but the presentations on that album are strong. And I literally can't think of a thing I'd change with ET. I'm glad more people will be able to enjoy these!

[Naïve Old Fart 10,339]

15 hours ago, Jay said:

"Watching The Skies", "Stars And Trucks", "The Dark Side of the Moon",  and "The Approach"

Are these all unreleased cues? If memory serves, the 1998 contains just about every bit of incidental music heard in the film (and a few that aren't). Of course, the OST contains some music not heard in the film, as well 

I apologise. I have no frame of reference, here, as I do not own the 35th., and these extra cues are not, to my knowledge, on the internet.

Where would these cues be, if they were to be heard in the film?

 

15 hours ago, Jay said:

Lava Flow

"Lava Flow"? I don't remember any volcanoes, in CE3K 

What is this cue, and where would it be placed, in the film? 

[GerateWohl 4,987]

I own some old bootleg from CE3K which contains a track where a sung version of When You Wish Upon A Star is included at one point. I think, it appeared in the original cut of the movie. But this edit might not be contained in any official release. Anybody else knows that one?

 

[Holko 10,158]

The LLL booklet says at one point they added the original Pinocchio recording into the credits, and that was where Steven overcorrected and removed even JW's credit renditions by tracking them over.

[Davis 2,795]

Steven

[rough cut 1,742]

I love the end credits version that interpolates ”When You Wish Upon A Star.”

 

It us on the compilation album The Spielberg / Williams Collaboration for those of you who’ve not heard it. An excellent album BTW.

[Disco Stu 15,501]

I mean, it's also on the Arista and LLL albums in its original recording.

[Jay 39,241]

On 02/08/2022 at 6:50 AM, Naïve Old Fart said:

Are these all unreleased cues? If memory serves, the 1998 contains just about every bit of incidental music heard in the film (and a few that aren't). Of course, the OST contains some music not heard in the film, as well 

I apologise. I have no frame of reference, here, as I do not own the 35th., and these extra cues are not, to my knowledge, on the internet.

Where would these cues be, if they were to be heard in the film?

 

"Lava Flow"? I don't remember any volcanoes, in CE3K 

What is this cue, and where would it be placed, in the film? 

 

 

"Watching The Skies" is used in the film, was not included on the OST or 1998 release, and then finally debuted on the LLL set:
 

 

"Stars And Trucks" is partially heard in the film, was partially included in the original OST album track "Nocturnal Pursuit", actually was on the 1998 Arista CD (woops) and is on the LLL set on disc 2.  Spielberg cut some of the footage it was meant to score from the final film, but the deleted footage was later released on home video

 

 

"The Dark Side of The Moon" is not used in the film, but how it might have been intended to be used is heard from 2:59-end of this video

 

 

"The Approach" is the original cue Williams recorded for the "Barnstorming" scene that later got completely replaced by the "Barnstorming" cue instead.  It's pretty damn cool.

 

 

 

As for the source music, he wrote "Eleventh Commandment" for when "The Ten Commandments" is seen on a TV (rather than using actual audio from that movie), "TV Western" for a deleted scene where a western was shown on a TV, and "Lava Flow" for the scene where a Looney Tunes cartoon is seen on a TV (rather than using the actual audio from the cartoon)

 

 

All videos made by @Holko and found in this brilliant thread.

[rough cut 1,742]

12 minutes ago, Stu said:

I mean, it's also on the Arista and LLL albums in its original recording.

Umm… yes. Of course.

[Naïve Old Fart 10,339]

Thanks for that, @Jay!

[Jay 39,241]

1 hour ago, GerateWohl said:

I own some old bootleg from CE3K which contains a track where a sung version of When You Wish Upon A Star is included at one point. I think, it appeared in the original cut of the movie. But this edit might not be contained in any official release. Anybody else knows that one?

 

There is a bootleg that uses the actual "When You Wish Upon A Star" song from the 1940 Pinocchino soundtrack instead of the "Contact" cue, but this song is never actually heard in any released version of the movie (only an early rough cut shown to test audiences), so I'm not sure why anybody should expect it to be included on any official release

[Tallguy 4,267]

The flutes, clarinets, and strings (right?) just gently repeating the five tones at the beginning of Contact makes me weak in the knees. SO. DAMN. BEAUTIFUL.

[GerateWohl 4,987]

20 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

There is a bootleg that uses the actual "When You Wish Upon A Star" song from the 1940 PInocchino soundtrack instead of the "Contact" cue, but this song is never actually heard in any released version of the movie (only an early rough cut shown to test audiences), so I'm not sure why anybody should expect it to be included on any official release

Yes, that is the one. And yes, I never missed this edit on my 1998 Arista edition. But I am also not a collector, who runs for the last bit of recorded or edited music. Therefore, I often wonder why people are expecting certain rare edits or versions of a cue to be included on a release.

[Jay 39,241]

People desire things written by the composer of the movie recorded for the movie, not existing songs already available needledropped into movies

[GerateWohl 4,987]

Ok. To that I can relate.

[Chewy 2,496]

23 hours ago, Jay said:

It's a re-issue of the 2017 2-CD setwith a slightly modified booklet and new catalog number.

 

What a ripoff! In my eyes, I bet you won't be able to hear a difference with the naked ear! La la records will be laughing all the way to the bank with this NEW release.

[QuartalHarmony 648]

In all seriousness, I still can’t quite believe that there’s been no entitled whining about this (yet).

[Disco Stu 15,501]

That's easy, it's because this is literally an identical reissue, content-wise.  I may not have agreed with the strongest negative reactions to the JP album, but I didn't think they were completely irrational, I understood where they were coming from.

[Marian Schedenig 8,934]

16 minutes ago, Stu said:

I may not have agreed with the strongest negative reactions to the JP album, but I didn't think they were completely irrational, I understood where they were coming from.

 

Hm. I would understand them only if the context was that the previous release was deliberately made imperfect so that they could sell an improved one later. I wouldn't imply that the labels are doing that, so what remains is an argument about whether it is legitimate to create an improved product after an earlier version has already been sold once it turns out that there actually is a way to improve it further - and I'm fully behind that (even more so considering how much heated discussion even the smallest potential flaws of these releases generate).

 

Or perhaps CE3K is just *so* good that nobody dares to complain in this case. Because it really is.

[Tallguy 4,267]

9 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

Or perhaps CE3K is just *so* good that nobody dares to complain in this case. Because it really is.

 

Yup.

[Richard Penna 4,113]

1 hour ago, Stu said:

That's easy, it's because this is literally an identical reissue, content-wise.  I may not have agreed with the strongest negative reactions to the JP album, but I didn't think they were completely irrational, I understood where they were coming from.

 

I had a very long think about whether to plunge for JP and eventually decided against as I decided the 2016 set is fine. However, I too can see the direction the complaints were coming from, given that many have a very intense collector mentality to have the 'definitive' version.

 

My thoughts on these two... I'm not going to deny a bit of disappointment that we don't have any new titles, but these two plus JP are going to provide a significant revenue stream for LLL, on top of allowing new purchasers.

 

Plus, an angle that I feel may be lacking here occasionally: if the labels don't release XYZ it won't be because they're not trying. Things might be stuck in approvals or other legal crap, so it could be that these reissues are filling a gap between available new releases.

[blondheim 1,160]

These re-issues are fantastic ideas, especially this year and for his fans who missed out on the original releases. And they aren't standing in the way of our excellent year-end with three more Williams releases on the way.

 

The end of the year looms.