Edmilson 7,393 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, crocodile said: It sort wants me to re-explore some of the smaller Williams scores now. Me too! This score really left me in the mood for Stanley & Iris, The Accidental Tourist, Stepmom, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,280 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Did you also create an edit of Home Alone's Holiday Flight where you cut out the parts, that Williams used from Tchaikowsky's Russian Dance from the Nutcracker? I’ve not heard the Fabelmans yet but very much looking forward to it. However, like others, I loved the use of Chopin in Empire of the Sun and JW is too good a composer to hamfistedly shoehorn in a classical quote and I imagine the same would be true here. However, I would note that for Home Alone, it’s more a paraphrase of Tchaikovsky than a quote. He takes the overall architecture of the of Russian Dance and writes his own melody over a very similar backing. (I have to admit that I think Tchaikovsky’s original tune is actually much more memorable than JW’s but that’s a different debate!). It’s clearly meant to evoke the Nutcracker but it’s not a direct quote… more a subtle rewrite. MrJosh and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Beautiful, very elegant score. I can't stop listening to this. Intimate, unobtrusive music, probably the most intimate of all composed by Williams. Amazing that he is giving us such a gift in the year 2022. Nothing groundbreaking, but lovely. Very. The main theme is simple, charmingly catchy, very lyrical. "Mother and Son" has something of the atmosphere of George Delerue's music. This is one of those moments that could be found, for example, on "Stepmom". There is a lot of celesta, very much in his style. And the final is primarily Williams's magic in all its glory. I skip three classic tracks (I created a Spotify playlist while waiting for the CD). They disturb my flow a bit. Although I will definitely listen to them again. Thank you Maestro. Ale Gere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanAsh 80 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, GlastoEls said: Thought the same! Deliberate Jaws citation/quote? I could imagine it’s a deliberate reference, coming full circle from (one of) the first Spielberg/Williams collaborations to the very last. … Now I imagine a reference to Sugarland Express instead… I reckon that would’ve felt a little out of place, stylistically? GlastoEls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 Quote The Legacy of John Williams, in collaboration with Sony Music, is proud to present this special podcast episode featuring a commentary on John Williams' new soundtrack by Editor Maurizio Caschetto and Head Contributor Tim Burden. The talk focuses around three tracks from the soundtrack album selected by Caschetto and Burden, "Mitzi's Dance," "Mother and Son," and "The Journey Begins," which offer a beautiful representation of Williams' poignant scoring for this film. If music is not enough and want to hear some first reactions blabber, there you go https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2022/11/11/the-fabelmans-first-listen enderdrag64, Jay, Brando and 10 others 8 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: I’ve not heard the Fabelmans yet but very much looking forward to it. However, like others, I loved the use of Chopin in Empire of the Sun and JW is too good a composer to hamfistedly shoehorn in a classical quote and I imagine the same would be true here. However, I would note that for Home Alone, it’s more a paraphrase of Tchaikovsky than a quote. He takes the overall architecture of the of Russian Dance and writes his own melody over a very similar backing. (I have to admit that I think Tchaikovsky’s original tune is actually much more memorable than JW’s but that’s a different debate!). It’s clearly meant to evoke the Nutcracker but it’s not a direct quote… more a subtle rewrite. Yes. That question was more a sarcastic exaggeration of mine, as I think, if Williams incorporates a classical piece in one of his film music tracks, I see no point in editing it out. But I have to admit, that @Knight of Ren's edit of the main theme is really nice. Knight of Ren and Tom Guernsey 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I have listened just once so far. I love the main theme, and in fact it immediately rockets to being one of my top favorite Williams themes. I love the warmth and emotion it evokes. It's beautiful and of course it makes me wish there were more of it to enjoy. For me, it's actually track 01 The Fabelmans which is the standout track. Aside from loving the theme, I really love the recording quality of the piano....sounds wonderful. The secondary theme is certainly Satie-inspired, specifically the Gymnopedie's, most noticed during 05 Reverie. Some other quick thoughts: 02 Mitzi's Dance -I like how 'dreamy' it is and I like how Williams writes for both celeste and harp. 06 Mother and Son -Really great track. I love the guitar, the string writing in the middle before the piano comes in gave me a very brief Lincoln-feel, and then I love hearing the piano on the theme again for the rest of the track. 11 The Letter -I like the celeste, and when the strings and oboe come in it's more of the Satie Gymnopedie feel. I do love the solo oboe and it makes me remember Angela's Ashes with its numerous oboe solos. 12 The Journey Begins -The Jauntiness of this track took me by surprise, coming after all that proceeded it. I do want to see what's happening in the film at this point...I enjoy the rest of the cue, but there's something about the last modulation that felt sudden to me, almost like it was an edit, but I probably just need to get used to how it flows. Important to note that (unless someone else did it), Williams added orchestra to the Haydn piece. It's a piano sonata so in it's original form is only piano, no orchestra. So, for me...if/when I make an edit that doesn't contain the classical pieces, I would still include the Haydn since he has essentially arranged it for orchestra there. Overall, I really love it! Even with how brief it is, he managed to cement two main ideas that feel somehow well developed over only a few cues. That's kind of amazing! Dr. Know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, JonathanAsh said: … Now I imagine a reference to Sugarland Express instead… I reckon that would’ve felt a little out of place, stylistically? I thought the very same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,944 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Knight of Ren said: And I certainly think this could earn Williams what will probably be his last nomination (and even win?). I'm almost sure he'll be nominated for Indiana Jones 5, no matter how good or bad the film is. The SW sequels weren't great films but were all nominated for an Oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 785 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 43 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: But I have to admit, that @Knight of Ren's edit of the main theme is really nice. Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I think it works great as a short summary of the score as a whole! 5 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: I'm almost sure he'll be nominated for Indiana Jones 5, no matter how good or bad the film is. The SW prequels weren't great films but were all nominated for an Oscar Yeah, that one will probably also be nominated especially if it really is Williams' last score ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: I'm almost sure he'll be nominated for Indiana Jones 5, no matter how good or bad the film is. The SW prequels weren't great films but were all nominated for an Oscar They weren't. Do you mean the sequels? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,944 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, crocodile said: They weren't. Do you mean the sequels? Karol Yes. Sorry. Typo. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 About what could be expected from a handful of 2-minute cues. It's a nice, warm souvenir though it's hard to muster more enthusiasm about it, it gains its only significance from the fact that it's probably the last Spielberg/Williams collaboration. artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I actually think the simplicity and small scale intimacy of the score means that it is his best chance in a long time of winning an Oscar. It seems like the type of scores the academy goes for these days. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Mother and Son is so friggin' good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Sorry if this has been posted already, but this just melts my heart: https://www.classicfm.com/composers/williams/john-steven-spielberg-the-fabelmans-score/ Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GlastoEls 556 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 I don’t know about everyone here, but I’m really relishing a new JW soundtrack day. We don’t know how many we have in front of us - just feeling so thankful. Smeltington, MrJosh, Edmilson and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,471 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I haven't really come to terms with the fact that it might be Williams' last score for Spielberg yet. So I live in denial. But yes, very touching, those Spielberg words. Damien F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,742 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 It's funny how this score feels both brand new but also like it's been part of JW's catalog for decades. MaxMovieMan, Edmilson and MrJosh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 392 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, GlastoEls said: I don’t know about everyone here, but I’m really relishing a new JW soundtrack day. We don’t know how many we have in front of us - just feeling so thankful. If I did my math right, there should be 1 left: Indy 5. Everytime I hear the guitar in Mother and Son, I'm reminded of this Williams composition: GlastoEls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 08/11/2022 at 8:35 PM, Marian Schedenig said: Yes, I should have ordered earlier… It's… gone? Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 9:02 AM, King Mark said: FUUUK After 3 years I finally caught covid I hope it doesn't affect my hearing Loss of hearing is NOT a symptom, lol. Feel better soon hopefully. It is way milder now as a disease so I'm hoping it doesn't make you feel too bad x As for the album.... For the first time in a long time.... Meh? This cannot be all he wrote. Why would you get a full orchestra together for just the first bit of the last track..... That wouldn't happen. There has to be more done with full orchestra yet, it's not here? It's mostly piano, then harp, celeste and strings, one oboe solo in a track and some horns in another? And don't get me wrong, I'm one of the few that has not only Schindler's List in my top Williams scores but Sabrina, Angela's Ashes too and love Stepmom even if it's not in the top..... O.o Taikomochi, Joni Wiljami and MaxMovieMan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,378 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 When I hear Mother and Son I hear Joe vs. the Volcano. But I'm pretty sure that's just me. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxMovieMan 269 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I haven’t even seen the film yet and this music is affecting me emotionally. Sometimes my about the way the maestro writes is unmatched and no other scores make me feel this kind of way. It’s a mix of nostalgic longing and hope at the same time. Maybe the fact that I know this will be one of his last scores makes me get more emotional than usual but I can really feel the “soul” of Williams in these tracks. I’ve desperately missed this kind of music and it makes me sad that we won’t get anything like this ever again. JonathanAsh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Well well well, what a stunning little album this turned out to be. I couldn't be more pleased. If the end of The Journey Begins is the last word on their collaboration, I'll be fine. (Though I hope it's not - fingers crossed they do a Western!) artguy360 and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 hours ago, ocelot said: Loss of hearing is NOT a symptom, lol. Feel better soon hopefully. It is way milder now as a disease so I'm hoping it doesn't make you feel too bad x Thanks, but I was just joking about the hearing loss. Fully recovered now...vaccines probably helped From what I'm getting this movie is based on Steven Spielberg's childhood right? I was expecting more of a "sense of wonder" score instead of the melancholic stepmom vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, King Mark said: Thanks, but I was just joking about the hearing loss. Fully recovered now...vaccines probably helped From what I'm getting this movie is based on Steven Spielberg's childhood right? I was expecting more of a "sense of wonder" score instead of the melancholic stepmom vibe. Yeah I know you were kidding, it made me laugh. As for the score yeah, same. Also, Williams does come from an age old Golden Age of music, I was hoping he would write this as a tribute to all those incredible composers of old as that's what captured Spielberg's imagination for film and music. Personally I would not care if it was OTT, for me it would have highlighted the awe and wonder of movies of that age and why Spielberg wanted to be a director in this business. publicist and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,639 Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 I get why some are dissappointed. I had made peace with the brevity, but I was hoping for more musical variety (like, I expected Mitzi's Dance to be a fun dance piece). Such is life. That being said the main theme is lovely, the Journey Begins is fantastic, and the the piano runs against the jubilant strings of the main theme is so sweet and perfect--like Williams writing a little epilogue to their own relationship. I would love a long piece of just that sort of stuff, but I will take what I can get. Tydirium, Will and ocelot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyD 1,220 Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 Another masterpiece by the Maestro; small but very intimate. I CANNOT wait to see the film. MaxMovieMan, Once and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I think "The Fabelmans" track might actually be a concert arrangement... Can't remember hearing it in the film. The second half of "Mother and Son" is definitely a (very memorable) film cue, but I do not recall hearing the opening guitar portion in the film -- I suspect it is a concert arrangement (or I suppose it could have been part of the film cue but dialed out). For the record, I'm personally skeptical that the "Out to Sea"-sounding music in "The Journey Begins" was an intentional call-back, although I suppose it can't be completely ruled out. More likely simply JW in the same playful, adventurous mode. (Speaking of which: I share others' disappointment that we didn't get to hear more of JW in that adventurous/exciting mode in this score -- Spielberg generally used period music or classic scores in such scenes, leaving more intimate scenes for JW.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 The Fabelmans, Reverie, and Mother and Son are the highlights of the OST for me. The Journey Begins doesn't do much for me. The music is most beautiful when it is intimate and chamber-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I love the main theme. Like if they made a sequel to Stepmom Very POA esque ending in The Journey Begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 905 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I can already kind of hear the eventual (fingers crossed) 5-minute version for Ann-Sophie Mutter and orchestra. 56 minutes ago, Will said: For the record, I'm personally skeptical that the "Out to Sea"-sounding music in "The Journey Begins" was an intentional call-back, although I suppose it can't be completely ruled out. More likely simply JW in the same playful, adventurous mode. My thoughts exactly, except I'm completely ruling out any connection. - I haven't seen the film btw. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Folio 183 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Very few people seem to have mixed or negative reactions to this score. Which is awesome! But I'd like to hear more from those who don't enjoy the album so much. For me, it's a big meh. The tone of the JW tracks is very uniform except for a couple moments. The classical pieces gladly add some variety, but those performances really lack character. They're played well, but blandly. Such a boring performance of one of my favorite Haydns! (JW's extension of the piece is really not that interesting.) And the whole album uses way too much reverb to create that melancholy vibe. It sounds so artificial. Plus, the tracks are all way too short to develop an interesting form/story. It's always over before it's really started. I like the themes, I like the simplicity, the sort of naivety, and I'm sure a couple tracks will end up in my playlists -- but the album as a whole, from top to bottom: meh. Not in my top 50 best JW... Am I alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, The Lost Folio said: Very few people seem to have mixed or negative reactions to this score. Which is awesome! But I'd like to hear more from those who don't enjoy the album so much. For me, it's a big meh. The tone of the JW tracks is very uniform except for a couple moments. The classical pieces gladly add some variety, but those performances really lack character. They're played well, but blandly. Such a boring performance of one of my favorite Haydns! (JW's extension of the piece is really not that interesting.) And the whole album uses way too much reverb to create that melancholy vibe. It sounds so artificial. Plus, the tracks are all way too short to develop an interesting form/story. It's always over before it's really started. I like the themes, I like the simplicity, the sort of naivety, and I'm sure a couple tracks will end up in my playlists -- but the album as a whole, from top to bottom: meh. Not in my top 50 best JW... Am I alone? Nope, already said, same for me, I was like, really? When he could have delved into Old Hollywood as the basis of why Spielberg fell in love with movies and really harkened back to the golden age of hollywood, instead he goes into simple, yes beautiful and cute piano piece with strings nd harp and celeste.... No real journey in the whole score. The Lost Folio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 Maybe it was their mutual decision to go that direction. I'm so sad they didn't ask ocelot. Taikomochi, Sandor, Brando and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, ocelot said: Nope, already said, same for me, I was like, really? When he could have delved into Old Hollywood as the basis of why Spielberg fell in love with movies and really harkened back to the golden age of hollywood, instead he goes into simple, yes beautiful and cute piano piece with strings nd harp and celeste.... No real journey in the whole score. Be patient. Apparently Williams revisits the Golden Age sound in Indy V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Joni Wiljami said: Maybe it was their mutual decision to go that direction. I'm so sad they didn't ask ocelot. Right? I mean... I KNOW BEST!!!!!!! lol Hey, listen, I have loved 99% of William's output, it's OK if this one is not gonna be anywhere near my "must listen to again" list. I'm happy many of you are loving it xox 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Be patient. Apparently Williams revisits the Golden Age sound in Indy V. Please no, I want pure indy for that and not Gone with the Wind, lol Joni Wiljami and Sandor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 hours ago, ocelot said: Nope, already said, same for me, I was like, really? When he could have delved into Old Hollywood as the basis of why Spielberg fell in love with movies and really harkened back to the golden age of hollywood, instead he goes into simple, yes beautiful and cute piano piece with strings nd harp and celeste.... No real journey in the whole score. But that wasn't up to Williams. It's just a few nice and unassuming melodies bracketing Spielberg's late stroll through memory lane, and hey, why not? It may not add up to more than, say, 'Pete'n'Tillie', but you could interpret it as a mutual agreement that a little sweet and direct piece is what you take away from it all (life, i mean, not the movie). This is not an uncommon sentiment for old people, when all the sturm and drang has vanished. ocelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serdar_askin 6 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 You can see Spielberg with your ears in the final chord of Journey Begins . With classical choices, so peaceful album. Thank you Maestro! MaxMovieMan and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Spielberg did a lot of movies, that where significantly enhanced and uplifted by JW's score and some which had noch much more to offer than a grand score and some which hardly required any score to be great but had some as kind of a goody. Currently I assume that The Fabelmans falls into the last category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I love this kind of scores. It's a score that remembers me alot the pianistic style of Patrick Doyle, and particularly the theme he wrote for Nouvelle-France. I'm not saying that Spielberg paid a lot of Money to get a Patrick Doyle score written by John Williams, I would never dare to say that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I think Williams was trying to capture the feeling of nostalgia, rather than just aping things people are nostalgic for. A golden age sound would not fit here. blondheim and MaxMovieMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,499 Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 Stripped back, simple and uncomplicated, refined and perfectly envisioned. I loved many tracks but that finale... wow. This man is just... wow. Muad'Dib, The Illustrious Jerry, JonathanAsh and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 hours ago, ocelot said: Please no, I want pure indy for that So.... Golden age then MaxMovieMan and ocelot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 46 minutes ago, Holko said: but that finale... wow "Wow" goes for the portion before the Haydn or after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I just finished my first listen. A nice quiet morning with the whole album as-is played through my living room setup. Well, the standout tracks on first listen are certainly The Fabelmans, Mother and Son, and The Journey Begins. I found the three classical pieces in their own tracks to be a detriment to the listening experience, they are too up-beat and bubbly compared to what the whole rest of the score is doing around them. The Haydn piece integrated into the finale track is better though, especially since Williams arranged it to transition from solo piano into a string piece. Plus, it's end credits music, not source music like the other three. Anyway, not a new favorite of mine, but not bad either. I'm sure it's perfect for the film, which I hope I'll be able to catch in the theaters. I wish it was playing in Boston now, I'd make the drive. filmmusic and Dr. Know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 This fits perfectly into John Williams' autumnal sound, alongside scores like Stepmom and Lincoln. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jay said: Anyway, not a new favorite of mine, but not bad either. I have listened to the album like 10-12 times (minus the classical pieces) already. I agree with you. I don't think I would put it in my top 30 Williams scores. I guess I can't call any Williams score "bad" (maybe except his very early scores? although they are also well crafted). It's just that it didn't resonate with me at all. To tell the utter truth, I expected something more for this kind of Spielberg film. The Lost Folio, serdar_askin and ocelot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, filmmusic said: "Wow" goes for the portion before the Haydn or after? All of it, but the bit before and the very end especially! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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