Popular Post JohnnyD 1,220 Posted November 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, Jay said: Do any of these non-Williams piano tracks play more than once in the film? Bach’s Concerto In D Minor is played twice. Other than that, no. I’ve seen the film three times. I also agree that both film and score are phenomenal, and that the Maestro scores critical moments in the film. The music is spotted expertly and effectively. I can’t wait until it comes out on 4K Blu-ray. Sandor, crumbs, MaxMovieMan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quppa 117 Posted November 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2022 Brett Mitchell's cover of the title track: GerateWohl, Trope, MrJosh and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 In profile he looks so much like David Walliams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 DGA podcast with Spielberg and Paul Thomas Anderson Just one little reference to JW, Spielberg mentions asking Williams if they should start the score in earlier and that it was Williams' own intuition to really have Mitzi's dance be its first major entrance. Molly Weasley and blondheim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 20 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I also can't imagine just making a playlist and cutting the classical tracks out, I love this album program! Hehe! I have listened to the album like 30 times, and not once with the classical pieces included. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Hm, seems almost disrespectful not to listen to Williams' album program at least once. Taikomochi and blondheim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,281 Posted November 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2022 Every single one of William's OST albums should be listened to exactly as released at least once. Trope, Molly Weasley and blondheim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 They also work towards making the Mom more of a character in the score by having you hear the pieces she plays the way Sammy does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 6 hours ago, mrbellamy said: DGA podcast with Spielberg and Paul Thomas Anderson Just one little reference to JW, Spielberg mentions asking Williams if they should start the score in earlier and that it was Williams' own intuition to really have Mitzi's dance be its first major entrance. I'm pretty sure there is some score prior to the dancing scene, though, right? Like this is early in the movie, I bet it's the first score heard. It's the same material found in the opening of "The Journey Begins" on the OST (don't think it's literally the same though, so count it as unreleased maybe?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 17 hours ago, Quppa said: Brett Mitchell's cover of the title track: I love Brett Mitchell's cover's/ arrangements/transcriptions of some of Williams music, everyone should check out his channel! Quppa and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 10 hours ago, mrbellamy said: DGA podcast with Spielberg and Paul Thomas Anderson Just one little reference to JW, Spielberg mentions asking Williams if they should start the score in earlier and that it was Williams' own intuition to really have Mitzi's dance be its first major entrance. time stamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 392 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I'm pretty sure there is some score prior to the dancing scene, though, right? Like this is early in the movie, I bet it's the first score heard. It's the same material found in the opening of "The Journey Begins" on the OST (don't think it's literally the same though, so count it as unreleased maybe?) I saw the film last night. You are correct, this is the first appearance of John Williams. There were very few scenes with Williams in it. I think I can count them with one hand, need to re-watch to be sure. The most impactful use of music to me was when "The Fabelmans" piano solo comes in near the end. Edit: Just looked over the tracklist and I think it pretty much covers everything. Just 7 scenes of music not counting "Mother and Son". "Mother and Son" appears only in the end credits suite. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, p0llux said: The most impactful use of music to me was when "The Fabelmans" piano solo comes in near the end. The piano part was hard to hear for me but the string insert from Mother and Son was really effective Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 On 26/11/2022 at 6:06 PM, Thor said: But you have to remember one thing, Mr. Bellamy: Unless there are 300 minutes of music (regardless if it fits the film or not), and it's in Williams' exubrant style with plenty of cymbal crashes, fanfares, boom-tsh'es and jagged scherzos, it's not worth anything in JW Film Score Fandom. I'm jesting, of course, but also not. I really adore this little album, and can't wait to see the film when it finally premieres over here. Oh, certainly there are a category of fans who act hurt and betrayed if they get anything less than a 6-disc box set of epic Williams music But I do think you're oversimplifying it a tad. My lukewarm response has nothing whatsoever to do with its intimate sound or length - purely how I react to the music i.e., not very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2022 On 28/11/2022 at 5:37 PM, Jay said: Every single one of William's OST albums should be listened to exactly as released at least once. well, I strongly believe that Williams's ost presentations are addressed to the general public and not the hardcore fan or musician/composer, who would like to hear the full arc of the music in the film, how the themes are developed and varied through the duration of a movie and so on.. That's why I'm not a super fan of his ost presentations. I think I have said it elsewhere, I was so disappointed when I heard his E.T. ost when I was a teen. enderdrag64, Ricard and Joni Wiljami 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,475 Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2022 There is no more "general public" for scores, so I don't know for who the OSTs are still intended... People don't buy CDs anymore and they don't listen to an album from the beginning to the end. Put anything on Spotify, people will only listen to it if it gets in a playlist! TheUlyssesian, Bayesian, Trope and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 On 28/11/2022 at 1:53 PM, TheUlyssesian said: time stamp? PTA brings music up generally at 19:19, JW brought up a minute later They actually both get a few details wrong haha. Also "John Sebastian Bach," come on Steven. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 741 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Bespin said: There is no more "general public" for scores, so I don't know for who the OSTs are still intended... The composer. Ricard and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 In most cases the OST is a good way to get the initial vibe of what the composer's done and see whether the score is for you. But after that, many album arrangements can go back into the darkness as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 hours ago, mrbellamy said: They actually both get a few details wrong haha. Also "John Sebastian Bach," come on Steven. I kinda like it. Steve also enjoys Joe Verdi Tony Bruckner Freddy Chopin Pete Tchaikovsky Dick Wagner Hank Purcell Jimmy Puccini blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Bob Schumann Gus Mahler Morrie Ravel Frank Liszt Eddie Grieg All dead! blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Tony Bruckner is killing me Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,280 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Iggy Stravinsky Johnny Sibs Ronny Copland Benj Britten The other Tonys, Dvorak and Webern Arnie Schoenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Benj Britten Why on earth Benj instead of Ben or Benny? Benny Britten has a nice ring to it. 46 minutes ago, blondheim said: Tony Bruckner is killing me I remember Tony Bruckner. He was a running back for the 49ers in 1986. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Jimmy Puccini. There is a humorous sketch in here with classical composers as gangsters: The Maestoso Mafiosos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: The other Tonys, Dvorak and Webern Vivaldi! He's Italian! Ay Tony! Tom Guernsey and blondheim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, blondheim said: Jimmy Puccini. There is a humorous sketch in here with classical composers as gangsters: The Maestoso Mafiosos And obviously running the syndicate is Don Vivaldi and his consigliere Joey Rossini. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Don’t forget the Don of the other major syndicate, Don Verdi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Nicky Paganini and Johnny Gabrieli somewhere in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,280 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Why on earth Benj instead of Ben or Benny? Benny Britten has a nice ring to it. Going for something less obvious… I dunno. It’s just people being silly. Who cares?! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Going for something less obvious… I dunno. It’s just people being silly. Who cares?! I do quite like Benjie Britten as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Richard Penna said: But after that, many album arrangements can go back into the darkness as far as I'm concerned. Album arrangements are great most of the times. It's the microedits, non chronological order, source cues inside the main programme, absence of a lot of cues, that I'm not a fan of.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, filmmusic said: It's the microedits, non chronological order, source cues inside the main programme, absence of a lot of cues, that I'm not a fan of.. Love all of that! Obviously, source cues inside the main programme can be hit and miss (I'm still not sold on the march stuff in Chris Young's otherwise deliciously somber MURDER IN THE FIRST, for example), but in this case it works like gangbusters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Thor said: Love all of that! Obviously, source cues inside the main programme can be hit and miss (I'm still not sold on the march stuff in Chris Young's otherwise deliciously somber MURDER IN THE FIRST, for example), but in this case it works like gangbusters. What do you think of the typical numerous Thomas Newman source cues spread about the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: What do you think of the typical numerous Thomas Newman source cues spread about the album? Definitely hit and miss too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 If IMDB is to be believed, this is the first Williams film score recorded in LA for which Sandy DeCrescent did not serve as the orchestra contractor since.... well I don't know when! A man named Timothy Loo is credited as the contractor on IMDB. Did she officially retire retire? I remember her saying that she was pretty much retired for everybody except Williams, Randy Newman, and maybe one other. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 30/11/2022 at 2:30 PM, Disco Stu said: Tony Bruckner Well, he *was* nicknamed "Tonerl" as a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMATRES 14 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Hello everybody. I'm enjoying "The Fabelmans" with my headphones. On track 1 "The Fabelmans" I think I hear the sound of a mouse click. I notice it at minutes 0:08 and also 1:18 and 1:25 (more faint). A rubbing sound is also heard (maybe it's the effect of the piano pedal). On track 5 "Reveire" is also heard. Has anyone else noticed this too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 “…it's the effect of the piano pedal.” It’s normal. OMATRES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMATRES 14 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: “…it's the effect of the piano pedal.” It’s normal. Ok. And the sound of the mouse click? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Stage noise. OMATRES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 I have to say i adore all the new JW music for this film (which i will only be able to see when it starts in our cinemas in Austria in March). The music is just so beautiful, magical, simple and uplifting. A real (much too short) gem, which leaves me wanting more... more extensive development of these themes, more extensive arrangements,... It seems like a wonderful appetizer to a more extensive score that you crave but will never come, it is that good. Sandor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Amazon says now, release date of the CD is Dec, 16th 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 03/12/2022 at 1:17 PM, OMATRES said: Ok. And the sound of the mouse click? On 03/12/2022 at 1:24 PM, JohnnyD said: Stage noise. Yeah chair creak to my ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Amazon says now, release date of the CD is Dec, 16th 2022. As does mine, but it still says I won't receive it until January 23rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dr. Rick said: As does mine, but it still says I won't receive it until January 23rd? You are right. No shipment date announced yet. In the order it says, I will get a mail as soon as they know the shipment date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,855 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 I preordered mine at Target because of the buy 2 get 1 media deal, and my email says it should be here arriving Mon, Dec 19 - Thu, Dec 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I thought the main theme was actually quite memorable, but weirdly, Clemmensen doesn't. https://www.filmtracks.com/titles/fabelmans.html Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Who? Joni Wiljami and blondheim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Pretty agreeable review overall. Basically my opinion (though I like the main theme a bit better) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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