The Fabelmans - OST Album

[Bespin 6830]

1 minute ago, Holko said:

Place your bets: will it still be incomplete?

 

Uncomplete and unchronological, I love that!!!

[Edmilson 4514]

9 minutes ago, Jay said:

"Run time ‏ : ‎ 31 minutes"

31 minutes including the classical pieces, right?

 

And if the classical music is actually 16 and a half minutes like you say a few posts above, then there's just 14 and a half minutes of Williams music. 

 

So basically the same runtime as The Battle of Hoth lol

[Smeltington 1066]

2 minutes ago, Holko said:

Place your bets: will it still be incomplete?

I'm betting YES!

 

Well this barely seems worth buying the CD for after all. With all the classical pieces removed, I guess you can think of the result as a John Williams EP. I look forward very much to hearing the original solo piano pieces!

[Disco Stu 15469]

Judge a score by its size, do you?  

[Tom Guernsey 1439]

11 minutes ago, Holko said:

Place your bets: will it still be incomplete?

Cynical view. It’ll contain music not in the film but miss some music in the film. Just to annoy us haha 

11 minutes ago, Holko said:

Place your bets: will it still be incomplete?

Cynical view. It’ll contain music not in the film but miss some music in the film. Just to annoy us haha 

[Richard Penna 2510]

But annoying us is what Williams does!

 

Aside from obviously being incomplete and probably containing music not in the film, it's been stated multiple times that the film doesn't have much score, and yet still ye olde believing JWFanners thought we'd somehow get a 75 minute orchestral extravaganza on CD....

 

Wait for Indy 5 for that.

[tranders65 58]

35 minutes ago, Jay said:

Nah, he only composed a single cue for "The Screaming Women", "Dear Basketball" is only 5 minutes, etc.

 

But for feature-length theatrical films for which he was the only original score composer: Yea, it'd be this one.

 

Conrack?

[Jay 31067]

How long is that one again?

[filmmusic 1249]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

How long is that one again?

Based on the iso score, it's 18 minutes and 50 seconds.

[Jay 31067]

36 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

31 minutes including the classical pieces, right?

 

And if the classical music is actually 16 and a half minutes like you say a few posts above, then there's just 14 and a half minutes of Williams music. 

 

So basically the same runtime as The Battle of Hoth lol

 

Those were just random performances of those pieces I quickly found via google when I saw the track list - and I didn't even check to see if there's crap at the end of the videos that padded their runtimes.

 

It's entirely possible they made new, shorter arrangements of these pieces for the film/album.

 

Maybe the album is 22 minutes of score and 9 minutes of classical pieces, something like that.  Who knows.

[filmmusic 1249]

5 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

 

Maybe the album is 22 minutes of score and 9 minutes of classical pieces, something like that.  Who knows.

Well, for starters the last track includes an excerpt of the piece, so it will not be the entire 6 minute duration.

[Jay 31067]

Right

[Ricard 1996]

[DangerMotif 562]

Is there a US link yet?

[Jay 31067]

2 minutes ago, Ricard said:

 

 

 

Nice! Where'd that come from?

 

 

1 minute ago, Gibster said:

Is there a US link yet?

 

2 hours ago, Jay said:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKLW6J58

[DangerMotif 562]

/dp/ is the United States?

[Jay 31067]

what?

 

Amazon.com is a US-based store.

[DangerMotif 562]

Isn’t amazon.com/dp/ for another country?

[Ricard 1996]

11 minutes ago, Jay said:

Nice! Where'd that come from?

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgLnaNtXgAYWkdT?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

 

https://twitter.com/TheLegacyofJW/status/1586085436908359683/photo/1

[TheUlyssesian 2247]

This is a 2 hr 30 min film. It’s baffling to me it has 15 mins of original score.

 

i am now really curious to see the film. Why would they spot the film this way?

 

 This is a normal mainstream commercial drama. How does it have that little score.

 

Edit: Also with 15 mins of understated piano solos, Williams ain’t winning jack. 

[Toillion 91]

Where is all the colored vinyl at? 

[Will 2123]

Have to admit I’m rather perplexed and disappointed if this score is under 20 minutes long. I know the reviews said there wasn’t much score but I assumed that meant, say, 30-40 minutes.

[mrbellamy 5625]

Might have missed it but is this still releasing digitally on November 11? 

[Disco Stu 15469]

When was the last time JW released an OST album this short?

[FrankV 208]

Just now, Disco Stu said:

When was the last time JW released an OST album this short?

 

Born on the Fourth of July?

[Manakin Skywalker 3608]

47 minutes ago, Gibster said:

Isn’t amazon.com/dp/ for another country?

 

That threw me off for a second too, but I don't think it's a domain suffix or else it would be ".co.dp" much like "amazon.co.uk". Not sure what the DP is for here then.

 

EDIT: Apparently it stands for "detail page".

 

50 minutes ago, Jay said:

what?

 

He thought it was a domain suffix.

[Disco Stu 15469]

25 minutes ago, FrankV said:

 

Born on the Fourth of July?

I mean the entire album, not just score portion.  31 minutes has gotta be among his shortest

[Jaaaackified 64]

4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

I mean the entire album, not just score portion.  31 minutes has gotta be among his shortest

 

The Post is somewhere around 40 min, and Monsignor is less than 40 min, Midway IIRC is even shorter

but yeah The Fabelmans looks like the shortest of them all

[Edmilson 4514]

53 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said:

This is a 2 hr 30 min film. It’s baffling to me it has 15 mins of original score.

 

i am now really curious to see the film. Why would they spot the film this way?

 

 This is a normal mainstream commercial drama. How does it have that little score.

 

Edit: Also with 15 mins of understated piano solos, Williams ain’t winning jack. 

Exactly. And the worst part: there's a big chance this will be the final collaboration between SS and JW. It's quite sad that it will end with such a short score. 

[Muad'Dib 1624]

Less is more.

[Marian Schedenig 6232]

1 hour ago, Gibster said:

Isn’t amazon.com/dp/ for another country?

 

The "dp" is part of every Amazon article link. You can generally shorten the URL to www.amazon.[com|co.uk|de|whatever]/dp/articlenumber and throw out everything else to get a shorter link to the same article.

[JohnnyD 1111]

5 hours ago, Jay said:

High res cover art:

 

 

Source: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgLISkkUcAEJ5KK?format=jpg&name=large

 

4 hours ago, Jay said:

"One of the most celebrated film composers of all time, JOHN WILLIAMS has composed many of the most successful Hollywood movies - Jaws, Star Wars & Indiana Jones to name a few. During his 6-decade spanning career, he has most notably worked with film director STEVEN SPIELBERG. For their 31st collaboration and 50th anniversary, they have crafted THE FABELMANS. The deeply personal Spielberg film will draw audiences into the cinema to revere the latest collaboration of the iconic Hollywood duo. John Williams’ music for the film spans from romantic solo piano pieces to big orchestra score pieces in the tradition of classic films whilst also drawing from great classical composers from earlier times. The CD booklet contains liner notes from Steven Spielberg as well as images from the film."

 

Pre-ordered already! I cannot wait to experience the film and the Maestro's score!

[Tom 3398]

I try not to prejudge, but this is way too short--particularly given the presence of the classical pieces.  

 

I hope that last track is longer and satisfying, though that would make the other tracks very short.  

 

We'll see.  I am sure I will like it, but I was thinking 30-40 mintues of original score with some other pieces added in.  

 

Either way, I hope for a nicely developed concert version in concerts soon.  

[pete 698]

Where is the talk of the length of the score coming from if we don't have track lengths? The movie? 

[Mr. Who 635]

5 minutes ago, pete said:

Where is the talk of the length of the score coming from if we don't have track lengths? The movie? 

Also wondering this. If the runtime that is being discussed is correct then it is a shame because I’m sure there’s at least a little bit more music in the movie that is 2h30min.

[The Illustrious Jerry 3353]

Typical JWFan to have confirmation of an album release for John Williams’ latest and potentially last collaboration with Steven Spielberg in 2022 at the age of 90, and a significant portion of the response is that it’s “not enough”.

 

Scoring a film is never about how much music there is but where it goes and how it supports a scene. Being fortunate enough to know what to expect from this, a 30 minute “concept” album with a healthy serving of the main theme, rounded out coherently by the classical piano, sounds like a perfect presentation and a guarantee for many reflective listens in the years ahead. Rest assured Williams has delivered a gorgeously restrained outing that’s no less effective than his most wall-to-wall work. I said it before, but being reminded of his grace and deftness after the sequel trilogy years of blockbuster bombast is almost doubly impactful. I welcome something smaller like this, because it will always stir that same feeling of hearing the maestro’s work for the first time. That’s why we love JW, because he’s always finding ways to bring us back to that moment, while still transporting us to new ones.
 

Anyway, the runtime comes basically as expected after seeing the film. People will probably spend the next decade talking about the 20-second toy train insert we never got to hear clean, and I say why not, that’s their right. I’m thinking the opener must be the 4-5 minute credits suite, but then I’m not sure what the last track is made up of. And that’s all I can remember really, other than Mom’s Dance.

I can’t wait to hear this with you all. 

[pete 698]

And Williams puts a lot of thought and effort into his soundtrack releases. If there's little score in the film, and he feels that's not adequate for a soundtack, he'll expand and revise pieces. And we don't know which pieces are concert arrangements. The Fablemans probably is, "Mother and Son" could be.

 

This excites me:

John Williams’ music for the film spans from romantic solo piano pieces to big orchestra score pieces in the tradition of classic films

[Not Mr. Big 4051]

Everyone here is so obsessed with size

[Tom 3398]

23 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said:

 a significant portion of the response is that it’s “not enough”.

 

The World (aka John Williams) is not Enough.  

[Jay 31067]

5 hours ago, Gibster said:

Isn’t amazon.com/dp/ for another country?

 

No

 

4 hours ago, Ricard said:

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgLnaNtXgAYWkdT?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

 

https://twitter.com/TheLegacyofJW/status/1586085436908359683/photo/1

 

@TownerFan with the scoops! 

 

4 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

Might have missed it but is this still releasing digitally on November 11? 

 

Yea

 

4 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

When was the last time JW released an OST album this short?

 

How To Steal A Million's OST is 28 minutes

 

Not With My Wife You Don't is 29

 

Fitzwilly is 30

 

Valley of the Dolls is 30

 

The Reivers is 30

 

Earthquake is 30

[Disco Stu 15469]

So you gotta go back 50+ years to the last time!  Wow.

[Jay 31067]

1 hour ago, The Illustrious Jerry said:

Scoring a film is never about how much music there is but where it goes and how it supports a scene.

 

Thank you for bringing logic and reason into the discussion! 

[Manakin Skywalker 3608]

4 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

The "dp" is part of every Amazon article link. You can generally shorten the URL to www.amazon.[com|co.uk|de|whatever]/dp/articlenumber and throw out everything else to get a shorter link to the same article.

 

Plus you can shorten it even more with the "share" button, such as https://a.co/d/bvMtFcK

[Andy 2238]

[Edmilson 4514]

Sigh. Leave it to James Mangold to commission 90-120 minutes worth of new John Williams music (of which we won't hear about 40%, but anyway).

[The Lost Folio 88]

It will be interesting to see if the last track is actually composed to merge the score with the Haydn sonata, a bit like he did with Chopin in Empire of the Sun. I always thought that worked super well on that album.

 

I actually like these piano sonatas and I'm looking forward to hearing how the score flows back and forth between styles.

[Will 2123]

To be clear, I'm still really excited for this score! Just always would prefer more Williams music to less.  I suspect what we do get will be of extremely high quality, as usual.

[Leitmotif 15]

In terms of judgment, I think the length is irrelevant.

 

Santaolalla has won many awards including Oscar for Brokeback Mountain.

Full OST Length: 43:21
Santaolalla: 26:59

[Thor 5812]

From the descriptions, the score -- and the amount of it -- sounds pretty much like I expected. Looks like a neat soundtrack album too! Looks good conceptually with organic flow between the original and non-original cues. Looking forward to hearing it.

[filmmusic 1249]

If the classical pieces/period songs etc. in the film are more than the actual score, I wonder if that'll make it eligible for the Oscars.