artguy360 1,908 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Jay said: I think it's great that we're getting a score like this AND a new Indiana Jones score within short order. That's more exciting to me than two scores of similar styles! 100%. It's far more interesting to have two starkly different JW scores in this late period of his career. I can't wait to discover both. Jay and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sandor 846 Posted November 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2022 The length of The Fabelmans score reminds me of something Williams said during the Seventh Annual Career Achievement Award in the early 90’s. Back then he said: ’I think it could be just as interesting to write a ‘Satie-like’ miniature score which is 10 minutes long. That can be the jewel in the hands of a master as a hundred-minute bombast can be in the hands of a fool.’ Source: Score Magazine (Dutch), 1991 blondheim, BuzzLightyear, Cerebral Cortex and 17 others 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,904 Posted November 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Sandor said: ’I think it could be just as interesting to write a ‘Satie-like’ miniature score which is 10 minutes long. That can be the jewel in the hands of a master as a hundred-minute bombast can be in the hands of a fool.’ Brilliant find and utterly true. The man is so much more than just a musical poet. After a sprawling collaboration filled with almost every genre imaginable, I can't think of a better way for Williams and Spielberg to complete their partnership. Holko, Brando and Sandor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,730 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 So the score in the film is 10 minutes and we get 7 minutes of unused music on the OST! Edmilson and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,260 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 A question: Do we know if this will be available at spotify on release day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pawel P. 739 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, filmmusic said: A question: Do we know if this will be available at spotify on release day? There are two certain things in life: death and taxes. However, there's no reason to be afraid that this won't be available on Spotify on release day. Brando, filmmusic and Disco Stu 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,755 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The OST album will be on all the usual digital sale / streaming platforms on Friday, November 11th. Spotify, Youtube, Tidal, Apple Music, Amazon Music, 7Digital, Qobuz, Soundcloud, etc etc etc etc The physical CD is scheduled to release on Friday, December 9th. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,730 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 FUUUK After 3 years I finally caught covid I hope it doesn't affect my hearing Andy, Amer, Chewy and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,587 Posted November 7, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 Samples available on the Presto website: https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9381464--the-fabelmans-original-motion-picture-soundtrack EDIT: this is beautiful Marc, Cerebral Cortex, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 18 others 3 4 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,730 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 mmm, i'll wait to hear the last track before passing judgement.Sounded promising until the music got interrupted by Haydn The rest have a depressing vibe like Angela's Ashes and Presumed Innocent K.M. who so far has only a mild fever, occasional cough and runny nose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,896 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Spoiler "The Journey Begins" = "Out To Sea" Docteur Qui and Brando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,730 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, thx99 said: Reveal hidden contents "The Journey Begins" = "Out To Sea" yeah Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sandor 846 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 The main theme is one of the most beautiful melodies John Williams has ever written. Marcus, Marc and Amer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,741 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 I listened to 2 seconds of The Fabelmans and loved it. Very Stepmom-esque Not listening to anything else until the full album is released Amer, Will, Marc and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,180 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, thx99 said: Hide contents "The Journey Begins" = "Out To Sea" Oh yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,795 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 32 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: I listened to 2 seconds of The Fabelmans and loved it. Very Stepmom-esque Wait til you hear "Mother and Son" lol. Not just cause of the title. This sounds very up my alley and the piano pieces and score seem to complement each other really well, there I said it. Muad'Dib, Sandor, Cerebral Cortex and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,267 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The melody in Mitzi's Dance and Reverie is nice. The title track doesn't excite me very much at all. Bits of the rest are nice, in a way that essentially any 'good' composer would've come up with something very similar, with occasional bits where JW's more typical blockbuster sound creep slightly in, with heavier strings or small orchestra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,260 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Am I wrong in thinking that the Reverie has a Satie-like quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 846 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Am I wrong in thinking that the Reverie has a Satie-like quality? Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,267 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 4:05 PM, King Mark said: whoo, we get a full 17 minutes of JW music mixed with classical source music for his final Spielberg OST . How exciting. The man's 90 years old and has just written a new Indiana Jones score. What if SS had made another music-heavy film requiring hours of music that meant JW couldn't do Indy, or had to do another CoS, or SS chose someone else (Zmmer?) for this score? The fact that you're not grateful to get 17 mins of new JW music says a hell of a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,755 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Again, it's not 17 minutes: On 04/11/2022 at 9:48 AM, Jay said: We don't know how much of the 6:08 track 12 is Williams, and how much is Haydn, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,122 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I'm a little worried that JW using classical pieces on The Journey Begins might prevent him from being Oscar nominated this year. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but he also included a classical piece in the middle of a cue in Empire of the Sun and was still nominated, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,755 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 To be eligible to be nominated, the amount of original score compared to existing music in the film itself must be over a certain percentage. To narrow down all eligible scores to the final 5 nominees, the music branch votes based on the FYC albums presented to them. The Fabelmans FYC will only have Williams' compositions on it. Brando and Sandor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,730 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 which could mean it's a good thing for us K.M. hoping not to be on a breathing machine by the time the OST is released (wait I already am technically) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 953 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I love the "Fabelmans" melody. That struck me and stuck with me instantly. Lovely and long-lined, with a promising B theme at the end of the sample. By the way, kudos to whoever plucked these samples for starting in melodically appropriate places. It doesn't feel random as samples often do. Marc and Sandor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,260 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I have a hunch that the Haydn piece in the last track, starts right with the end credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 8,504 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 Wow, loving these clips! Marcus, The Illustrious Jerry and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Illustrious Jerry 3,357 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 55 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I have a hunch that the Haydn piece in the last track, starts right with the end credits. Correct! The sample starts at the beginning of the film's last cue, which has that more playful pizzicato tone I referred to yesterday, and the credits start at 0:47, which is when the Haydn excerpt comes in. I don't think the piano sonata runs much more than a minute, so the remainder of the piece is still mostly Williams. I remember some lovely expansion on the mother's theme over the credits, probably a good three or four minutes. filmmusic, thx99, Once and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Falstaft 2,175 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 Normally I'd be racing to transcribe these themes, but I feel more like just relishing them right now. I mean, "Mother and Son" -- wow. How lucky we are! BTW, that's almost certainly a self-reference to "Out to Sea" from Jaws a little bit into the last track, right? Will, Marc, Sunshine Reger and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Docteur Qui 1,575 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 Nice use of guitar in "Mother and Son". One last score to confuse people about which John Williams is which. Trope, MrJosh, Tydirium and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc 824 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Mother and Son truly is gorgeous... Cannot wait to see the images that go with it ! I can imagine Steven shedding a tear or two when he first heard that piece artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Falstaft 2,175 Posted November 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, Falstaft said: Normally I'd be racing to transcribe these themes, but I feel more like just relishing them right now. I mean, "Mother and Son" -- wow. How lucky we are! Oh, who am I kidding. Here's a first pass. Corrections welcome! Tom, ConorPower, Muad'Dib and 8 others 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,528 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Very much looking forward to hearing more. I have yet to explore some of the smaller Williams scores, so this might be a fun gateway into those. Sounds excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,908 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I love listening obsessively to these samples of what may be JW's last score. I like what sounds like the b-part of The Fabelmans theme and the guitar performance in Mother and Son. Did JW get the other JW to perform on his final score?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 10,396 Posted November 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2022 Amer, Not Mr. Big, Smeltington and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Folio 186 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 So, it doesn't sound like JW planned The Journey Begins to transition into Haydn after all. Of course I haven't seen the movie yet, but these samples, no matter how lovely they are, sound rather generic. That kind of light pianism is everywhere, and it ends up being samey. Does Williams do it better than others? Maybe, maybe not. Don't get me wrong, I like it, and I'm glad we got another of these intimate JW scores. But it doesn't seem to have the charm and variety that made his previous intimate scores so great. Hopefully my first impression will change after I watch the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,047 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 9 hours ago, thx99 said: Reveal hidden contents "The Journey Begins" = "Out To Sea" Are these the samples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 It's obviously slight, but in a in an elegantly measured, thoughtful way, compare that to the boring, editorializing approach of The Book Thief. The organic inclusion of classic music is a cute way of acknowledging the impact of 'serious' music on Spielberg's life, which is of course the chief reason he approached the music of his movies as he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,589 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 This is delicate and lovely. I have already found much to admire in the samples. Looking forward to it even more now. May or may not be an instant classic but this is undeniably beautifully written music. The quality is just readily apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,159 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Who knows, how many more georgous melodies are in this man. The samples are beautiful. Looking forward to the album. And the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,908 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I think I hear two themes so far: the main Fabelmans theme and another more delicate, almost hesitant theme that appears in the samples of the back half of the score, maybe a theme for family secrets/conflict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,047 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The "Reflections" seem to be going down "Petticoat Lane". I enjoyed the samples and am happy that the trailer music is now off my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 5,257 Posted November 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 hours ago, The Lost Folio said: So, it doesn't sound like JW planned The Journey Begins to transition into Haydn after all. Of course I haven't seen the movie yet, but these samples, no matter how lovely they are, sound rather generic. That kind of light pianism is everywhere, and it ends up being samey. Does Williams do it better than others? Maybe, maybe not. I heard the whole thing and I can say it's not generic at all. It's restrained, but very heartfelt. There is a French-like character by the way of JW's own unique voice, so it's definitely not the usual generic and trite tinkly piano scoring that is plastered in most contemporary dramas for film and tv shows. Quite the opposite, it shows you can be very musical and profound by stripping it all down to a few instruments and using a restrained approach. The use of piano, harp and celeste is poignant. It's perhaps JW's most chamber-like score of his career, which makes a lot of sense as the film itself is a chamber piece. Jay, Bayesian, The Lost Folio and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,504 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The celeste bit made me think of his score to "Jeeney Ray". Not quite on that Delerue-ian level, but sound-wise similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,159 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 34 minutes ago, TownerFan said: I heard the whole thing and I can say it's not generic at all. It's restrained, but very heartfelt. There is a French-like character by the way of JW's own unique voice, so it's definitely not the usual generic and trite tinkly piano scoring that is plastered in most contemporary dramas for film and tv shows. Quite the opposite, it shows you can be very musical and profound by stripping it all down to a few instruments and using a restrained approach. The use of piano, harp and celeste is poignant. It's perhaps JW's most chamber-like score of his career, which makes a lot of sense as the film itself is a chamber piece. I agree. When I heard the first few simple bars of the Fabelman 's Theme, I thought, this could also come from someone like Alexandre Desplat. But already the b-section showed Williams' signature in his vivid way. I am looking forward to hear the whole piece soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,504 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Worried about the semi-limited edition thing, and that one might have to order quickly. Normally, I wait patiently until a new release drops a bit in price, perhaps on the secondary market. But I've checked around some online stores, and the cheapest I could find at this pre-order stage is 183 NOK with shipping (about $18). That's more expensive than a new CD cost in the store back in the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,755 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 First time learning the concept of inflation? Brando and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,047 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The price has gone up from 12 to 19 EUR at Amazon.de. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 846 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Where are members from The Netherlands ordering this from? I don't think any Dutch retailers are offering the soundtrack for sale at this moment. This is a German site I believe, which might be an option. Or Amazon.de of course. https://www.playthek.com/john-williams-the-fabelmans-ost-sony-classical-cd-pZZa1-2100722175.html?language=en¤cy=EUR&_z=nl&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmaibBhCAARIsAKUlaKSuVfLkZWfPSM2igKUMFInONN1Cd-a3LT1-CvZY9Ultq1DRbww5dggaAi6sEALw_wcB When you order from a German site, will the soundtrack be a German pressing in the sense that certain information on the back is written in German instead of English? Or is there just one (international) release for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,047 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Falstaft said: Normally I'd be racing to transcribe these themes, but I feel more like just relishing them right now. I mean, "Mother and Son" -- wow. How lucky we are! BTW, that's almost certainly a self-reference to "Out to Sea" from Jaws a little bit into the last track, right? Couldn't agree more to the "Out to Sea" similarity. Unfortunately, the film is not entitled "The Spielbergs", otherwise a grand medley of all Williams/Spielberg themes during the end credits would have been justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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