Popular Post Dzadza 90 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 Apparently, one of the final awards approved by the Queen https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11244771/Queens-final-knight-John-Williams-honoured-creating-music-blockbuster-films.html Tydirium, Brando, Michael G. and 24 others 12 5 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Docteur Qui 1,458 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 Well that's pretty great! We can call him Sir Johnny now. apples, Giftheck, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drew 564 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 Only British nationals can be called Sir, but I will call him that anyway. apples, Brando, Giftheck and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 2,555 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 I’m envisioning the turtleneck showing between the pieces of shining armor. Giftheck, Smeltington, BB-8 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,223 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 wow, that's more impressive than an Oscar Brando, BB-8, Tydirium and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,148 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 45 minutes ago, Andy said: I’m envisioning the turtleneck showing between the pieces of shining armor. Why choose between fashion and protection when you can just wear a chainmail turtleneck! apples, Michael G., Garrett and 13 others 2 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 984 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 I wonder does this increase the chances that he will make a return trip to London to conduct the LSO after having to cancel previously due to health issues. apples, dtw42, MaxTheHouseelf and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12,961 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Wouldn't he travel to London to receive the Knighthood, only receiving it from King Charles instead? Still, what an incredible honour! And perfectly fitting when you consider John's legacy with music recorded in England. Tremendous shame he couldn't receive it from the Queen while she was alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,074 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, Damien F said: I wonder does this increase the chances that he will make a return trip to London to conduct the LSO after having to cancel previously due to health issues. One of my first thoughts. Still, it is Daily Fail as well... In any case, pretty cool if true. Karol Marian Schedenig and BB-8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 1,929 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 If true we can hope for some coronation music, Symphony No. 2, and a return to London. Rise...Sir Towner! 4 hours ago, Drew said: Only British nationals can be called Sir, but I will call him that anyway. Yeah, I think Bill Gates and Spielberg have these kind of knighthoods. dtw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 419 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 5 hours ago, crumbs said: Wouldn't he travel to London to receive the Knighthood, only receiving it from King Charles instead? Still, what an incredible honour! And perfectly fitting when you consider John's legacy with music recorded in England. Tremendous shame he couldn't receive it from the Queen while she was alive. I don’t think honorary recipients visit the Palace? Delighted if I’ve remembered that wrongly. Either way, this is terrific news if this gets confirmed. As others have said, even though not technically correct - Arise, Sir Johnny! BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,331 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Sir Maestro Brando and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 1,835 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 The Towner of London! ThePenitentMan1, dtw42, bollemanneke and 12 others 3 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,442 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 What a thing to wake up and see as the first news of the day!!! The fans calling him 'Sir John Williams' will now be seen as a bit less rabid. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 1,929 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, Tallguy said: The Towner of London! Guy Fawkes 1 hour ago, GlastoEls said: I don’t think honorary recipients visit the Palace? Delighted if I’ve remembered that wrongly. Either way, this is terrific news if this gets confirmed. As others have said, even though not technically correct - Arise, Sir Johnny! But he should have got this honor far earlier in his career. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_Williams,_1st_Baronet,_of_the_City_of_London Darth Mulder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6,495 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 If this is indeed true, shouldn't there be some way to get reliable (i.e. non Daily Mail) confirmation for this? bollemanneke and BB-8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 1,929 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 That wonderful white bird that delivers the Daily Mail... Smeltington and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindylover1969 11 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: If this is indeed true, shouldn't there be some way to get reliable (i.e. non Daily Mail) confirmation for this? I'm no fan of The Daily Heil either, so... Star Wars Composer John Williams ‘Knighted By Queen’ In Final Honours – Deadline Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 2,840 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 John Williams can look back at such great achievements. He doesn't rely on an old lady telling him, that he is special. From all the honors, he received in the past years this one probably means the least. But of course it is a nice gesture. GlastoEls, Cindylover1969 and Damien F 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6,495 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cindylover1969 said: I'm no fan of The Daily Heil either, so... Star Wars Composer John Williams ‘Knighted By Queen’ In Final Honours – Deadline I saw that, but it cites the Daily Mail as its source (and nothing else). BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,707 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: John Williams can look back at such great achievements. He doesn't rely on an old lady telling him, that he is special. From all the honors, he received in the past years this one probably means the least. But of course it is a nice gesture. I can kind of see your point. However, this "old lady" is the same generation as Williams and has been a part of his political backdrop going back to his youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2,931 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: I saw that, but it cites the Daily Mail as its source (and nothing else). Yes, please let some reliable non-toxic newspaper verify this. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,232 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 Until I see John Williams in the armor, I'm not buying it BB-8, Edmilson, Brando and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fabulin 3,442 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 Ricard, BB-8, ThePenitentMan1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7,959 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Apparently, JW has been awarded an honorary knighthood. Can anyone shed any light on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,150 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 This is phenomenal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,506 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 nice, but a shame he cant be officially called 'sir' It is too late for him to ask for british citizenship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaaackified 68 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Andre Previn and JW's dear friend Spielberg have been awarded Honorary knighthood before. Though he will not be able to add "Sir" before his name but nonetheless a well deserved recognition on his marvelous career and his achievement in defining pop culture and making great music. As far as I know, no British composer working primarily in the field of film, TV and visual media has been awarded knighthood. Debbie Wiseman, Rachel Portman and the late John Barry are all recipients of Order of Brisith Empire and hence can add OBE after their names. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,707 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Edit. I guess I didn't have to be snarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,640 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Queen's final knight John Williams to be honoured after creating music for many blockbuster films | Daily Mail Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,442 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 That's the coolest thing. It's not just an OBE, it's a KBE. If it were an OBE, it would mean far less, since so many artists have it. Interesting that Bob Iger also gets it. I wonder whether the two getting honorary knighthood stems from the same behind the scenes conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brando 1,063 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 One step away from being crowned King! Manakin Skywalker, Smeltington, Andy and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2,931 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 He has to come to London now. Then I will too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,707 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Now he can ride in the bus. Cindylover1969 and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JW collector 12 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 official source: Honorary awards to foreign nationals in 2022 - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) GlastoEls, Marian Schedenig, Fabulin and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 984 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, JW collector said: official source: Honorary awards to foreign nationals in 2022 - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) Great to get official confirmation. Arise Sir Towner of Boomtish Andy, bollemanneke, BB-8 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2,931 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 How am I the first to post this? BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,150 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 3 hours ago, JW collector said: official source: Honorary awards to foreign nationals in 2022 - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) A tremendous and well-deserved honor, made more impactful due to it being the final honors given by the Queen before her passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 984 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 It would have been incredible for JW to have met the Queen and the photos from such an event. He probably would have told her the Schindler's List anecdote Brando, bollemanneke, Fabulin and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lairdo 591 Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 I just found a list of some of the honors bestowed on musicians by the monarchy. https://www.heraldica.org/topics/famous/knighthd.htm Can't vouch for the validity of this site, but if accurate, a few observations I can make for it: Most leading composers of the 20th century do not have KBEs - mostly just CBE or below. Many are knights but not necessarily knights of the the British Empire. The key exception is Benjamin Britten who was made a Baron, and that ranks above KBE. Examples: William Walton, CBE Richard Bennett, CBE Malcom Arnold, CBE Ralph Vaughan Williams, OM Some KBEs in the conductor ranks: Previn (who probably counted as both conductor and composer, as Sir Johnny does.) Georg Solti Mstislav Rostropovich Yehudi Menuhin was made KBE and then a Baron So, indeed this KBE is a pretty rare honorary award and speaks to the impact of Sir Johnny's influence. Really quite cool even if he cannot fashion himself (not that he would) as a Sir. We've been all rising when he walks in or out of the room for years anyway. In terms of any kinds of honors going to composers with film or TV pedigrees, Williams joins Previn (who stopped doing scores in the 60s'), Britten (who composed scores to make ends meet in the 30s), Arnold (who did a few), Bliss (also in the 30s), Andrew Lloyd Webber (stage), Elton John (as a songwriter), Ralph Vaughan Williams (with a few compositions that started as film scores), Bennett (a fair few), and Walton (who worked in film sporadically but over multiple decades- the Olivier/Shakespeare scores being standouts that are still played in concert halls). Long Live (Sir) John Towner Williams! Fabulin, Smeltington, Brando and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,063 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Tom said: Now he can ride in the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4,966 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Sir John of House Williams, the Master of Musics and Fine Arts and Earl of Tanglewood Taikomochi and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,640 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Now in Hollywood Reporter!Bob Iger, John Williams Named Honorary Knights by Queen Elizabeth II – The Hollywood Reporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,442 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Sir John of House Williams, the Master of Musics and Fine Arts and Earl of Tanglewood Right Honourable Lord Hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 6,495 Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Damien F said: It would have been incredible for JW to have met the Queen and the photos from such an event. He probably would have told her the Schindler's List anecdote I know, but she's all dead. Taikomochi, Brando, Andy and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 863 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 https://variety.com/2022/biz/news/bob-iger-star-wars-john-williams-kbe-qeii-1235382930/amp/ https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/john-williams-bob-iger-knighthood-queen-elizabeth-ii-1235144368/amp/ https://slippedisc.com/2022/09/queen-elizabeth-in-her-last-honours-remembered-john-williams/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 2,555 Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 She signed the papers and was like “Now I can die.” Brando, Smeltington and bollemanneke 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,223 Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 So these are the ranks according to Wiki The five classes of appointment to the Order are, in descending order of precedence: Knight Grand Cross or Dame Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (GBE)[b] Knight Commander or Dame Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (KBE or DBE) Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (CBE) Officer of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (OBE) Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (MBE) So Williams is a Knight Commander? Tydirium, GlastoEls and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 1,929 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Welcome...to the club! Spielberg got his KBE in 2001. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_honorary_British_knights_and_dames Considering JW's impact on the UK film industry with the LSO back in the 70's/80's, I think this KBE is overdue. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,640 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 12 hours ago, Andy said: She signed the papers and was like “Now I can die.” Sounds pretty fishy if you ask me. Maybe an obsessive fan had her killed so can say her dying words were to make JW a knight. Brando and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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