King Mark 3,631 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 On 30/11/2022 at 7:52 AM, TolkienSS said: I have several questions about that... Number one, who decided (if at all) that a movie needs "social importance", whatever THAT means (assuming it doesn't mean what it apparently means), to get a nomination? It means the movie's or nominees "aura of wokeness". On that note Wakanda Forever has a much higher chance than Top Gun Maverick of being nominated. Like last year I'll guess all the winners in each category according to that criteria alone. I'm also not placing any bets on Fableman's because it seems to be lacking in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 My previous bets for best movies were Sound Of Metal (2021) and last year's Power Of The Dog (2022). I haven't got a clue for 2023. I think I have to see more movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Or just stop betting. Gambling isn't healthy. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 My personnal choice: The Fabelmans Wakanda Forever Glass Onion Don't Worry Darling Pinnochio JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Well I thought The Whale had a big wokeness aura (LGBTQ , disability and mental illness themes) and was a contender to win all the major awards but that's beeing cancelled out by backlash from the "fat community" who deem the film fat phobic , and that they didn't give the role to an actual gay fat actor instead of putting Brendan Fraser in a fat suit. So maybe Fableman's might have a chance to slip through as a "safe" non controversial vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,284 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Producers, Directors, and Actors Guild nominations Only Paul Dano got a Fabelmans nomination from SAG, plus the Ensemble. Putting Michelle Williams in Lead was such a bad call! Also occurs to me that if Top Gun: Maverick gets a now likely Best Picture nomination, it'll be Jerry Bruckheimer's first Oscar nod. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 On 22/12/2022 at 6:58 AM, crocodile said: Or just stop betting. Gambling isn't healthy. When the fun stops, stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: Putting Michelle Williams in Lead was such a bad call! It really was, I think she would have walked to a win in Supporting this year. I heard it was blind ego (either on her part or her management's) that made her be campaigned in leading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 These are some of the worst nominees in a long time. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 Here's the nominees announced so far Actress in a Supporting Role Angela Bassett Hong Chau Kerry Condon Jamie Lee Curtis Stephanie Hsu Costume Design Babylon Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Elvis Everything Everywhere All at Once Mrs Harris Goes to Paris Sound All Quiet on the Western Front Avatar: The Way of Water The Batman Elvis Top Gun: Maverick Original Score All Quiet on the Western Front Babylon The Banshees of Inisherin Everything Everywhere All at Once The Fabelmans Adapted Screenplay All Quiet on the Western Front Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery Living Top Gun: Maverick Women Talking Original Screenplay The Banshees of Inisherin Everything Everywhere All at Once The Fabelmans Tár Triangle of Sadness Live Action Short Film An Irish Goodbye Ivalu Le Pupille Night Ride The Red Suitcase Animated Short Film The Boy, the Mole, the Fox, and the Horse The Flying Sailor Ice Merchants My Year of Dicks An Ostrich Told Me the World is Fake and I Think I Believe it Actor in a Supporting Role Brendan Gleeson (Banshees of Inisherin) Brian Tyree Henry (Causeway) Judd Hirsch (The Fabelmans) Barry Keoghan (The Banshees of Inisherin) Ke Huy Quan (Everything Everywhere All At Once) Those last 2 animated short titles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Franglen was robbed. Definitively rooting for JW now. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Babylon isn't my thing, and Banshees was surprisingly uneventful. I haven't heard anything from Everything or All Quiet. So hey, it's still possible Fabelmans will be my favourite out of that lot, merely for being actually listenable music But yes, Avatar is way, waaaay better than Fabelmans in my book AINEC. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Suprises up to this point. Top Gun: Maverick for Screenplay Brian Tyree Henry for Supporting Actor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 If Williams didn't win, I'd be happy to see Carter Burwell win an Oscar (this is his 3rd nom) just as a recognition of his distinct and often wonderful career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, JNHFan2000 said: Brian Tyree Henry for Supporting Actor He was hilarious in Bullet Train, don't know anything about Causeway other than it starred J-Law JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, Disco Stu said: If Williams didn't win, I'd be happy just to see Carter Burwell win an Oscar (this is his 3rd nom) just as a recognition of his distinct and often wonderful career. I wouldn’t mind that but JNH and Newman deserve to win before he does. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: If Williams didn't win, I'd be happy to see Carter Burwell win an Oscar (this is his 3rd nom) just as a recognition of his distinct and often wonderful career. Catherine Called Birdy is a better 2022 Burwell score than The Banshees of Inisherin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 All Quiet On The Western Front is really racking up the nominations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Ruben Ostlund got a Best Director nom lol, there's always a weird one Geez, they really liked Triangle of Sadness, a movie I only heard bad things about. It got a Best Picture nom too. A movie that has a poster with a woman vomiting gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 Here's the rest of the nominees Original Song Applause from Tell It Like a Woman Hold My Hand from Top Gun: Maverick Lift Me Up from Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Naatu Naatu from RRR This is a Life from Everything Everywhere All at Once Documentary Feature Film All That Breathes All the Beauty and the Bloodshed Fire of Love A House Made of Splinters Navalny Documentary Short Film Films The Elephant Whisperers Haulout How Do You Measure a Year? The Marsha Mitchell Effect Stranger at the Gate International Feature Film All Quiet on the Western Front Argentina, 1985 Close EO The Quiet Girl Animated Film Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio Marcel the Shell with Shoes On Puss in Boots: The Last Wish The Sea Best Turning Red Makeup and Hairstyling All Quiet on the Western Front The Batman Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Elvis The Whale Production Design All Quiet on the Western Front Avatar: The Way of Water Babylon Elvis The Fabelmans Film Editing The Banshees of Inisherin Elvis Everything Everywhere All at Once Tár Top Gun: Maverick Cinematography All Quiet on the Western Front Bardo, False Chronicles of a Handful of Truths Elvis Empire of Light Tár Visual Effects All Quiet on the Western Front Avatar: The Way of Water The Batman Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Top Gun: Maverick Actor in a Leading Role Austin Butler, Elvis Colin Farrell, The Banshees of Inisherin Brendan Fraser, The Whale Paul Mescal, Aftersun Bill Nighy, Living Actress in a Leading Role Cate Blanchett, Tár Ana de Armas, Blonde Andrea Riseborough, To Leslie Michelle Williams, The Fabelmans Michelle Yeoh, Everything Everywhere All At Once Best Director The Banshees of Inisherin Everything Everywhere All At Once The Fabelmans Tár Triangle of Sadness Best Picture All Quiet on the Western Front Avatar: The Way of Water The Banshees of Inisherin Elvis Everything Everywhere All at Once The Fabelmans Tár Top Gun: Maverick Triangle of Sadness Women Talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I'm very happy for Bill Nighy. He has an amazing career. But I do feel Michelle Williams doesn't belong in the Best Actress category. I feel Danielle Deadwyler or Viola Davis should've been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: I'm very happy for Bill Nighy. He has an amazing career I'm a huge fan of Ikiru, the original film, and I'm a huge fan of Kazuo Ishiguro, the screenwriter, and I'm a fan of Bill Nighy. I'm very much looking forward to watching Living! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Mostly predictable nominees with few surprises. I would say the biggest one is how many All Quiet on the Western Front got, the other big one being Paul Mescal and Andrea Riseborough sneaking into the best actor nominations. The catogory of score is what I was expecting with the exception of Desplat not being on the list. I think the best of those is Hurwitz's score, even though I have yet to watch All Quiet on the Western Front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2022 was a big year for movies satirizing the ultra rich. The Menu, Glass Onion, and now Triangle of Sadness gets a Best Pic nom. 1 minute ago, Knight of Ren said: Paul Mescal and Andrea Riseborough Apparently completely engineered by publicists haha. All these celebrities posted on social media about Andrea Riseborough suspiciously on like the same day or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 Multiple nominees: 11 Everything Everywhere All at Once 9 All Quiet on the Western Front 9 The Banshees of Inisherin 8 Elvis 7 The Fabelmans 6 Tár 6 Top Gun: Maverick 5 Black Panther: Wakanda Forever 4 Avatar: The Way of Water 3 Babylon 3 The Batman 3 Triangle of Sadness 3 The Whale 2 Living 2 Women Talking Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Wow, this is one of the worst Original Score nominations lists I’ve ever seen. And Franglen’s Avatar 2 definitely deserved a spot on there. Mr. Who and MikeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jay said: 3 The Fabelmans The Fabelmans has 5 1 minute ago, Tydirium said: And Franglen’s Avatar 2 definitely deserved a spot on there. They didn't put him up "for your consideration" at all. Not even a courtesy FYC page for it. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 And don't get me wrong, I love Spielberg, but someone else should be in that spot. I would've prefered Gina Prince Bythewood in there. And if The Daniels don't win, something is off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: The Fabelmans has 5 And avatar has 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I'm rooting for Spielberg of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Off all the nominated films in the big categories (not counting documentary & shorts), these are the ones I haven't seen: Aftersun All Quiet On The Western Front Avatar: The Way Of Water Blonde Living Marcel The Shell With Shoes On The Whale To Leslie Triangle Of Sadness Women Talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 How did She Said end up with zero nominations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Indeed. Incredible film. Should've been in adapted screenplay. Maybe directing or acting Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 Every Best Actor nominee is a first-time nominee for that category. The last time this happened was 7th Academy Awards (1935 ceremony for 1934 films) JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I always saw the Academy Awards nominations as either a clap on the back to say "good job" in the large sense for the past works of an artist (not just the current nominated work), or just to say "congrats, you are on the right path, continue!". The winner of an Oscar is pretty much arbitrary for me (or political like you say), it's the nominations that matters the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 This year is a prime example of the Academy not really caring about music. But just choosing the music that goes with the most popular/nominated films MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 Top Gun Maverick's Best Picture nomination gives Jerry Bruckheimer his first ever Oscar nomination. Oh wow, this is Jamie Lee Curtis's first nomination too! JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: This year is a prime example of the Academy not really caring about music. But just choosing the music that goes with the most popular/nominated films Yes it's a shame that the music category so often does not have anything to do with the music (social network in 2010 being another good example). JNHFan2000 and Tydirium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: This year is a prime example of the Academy not really caring about music. But just choosing the music that goes with the most popular/nominated films That's what happens every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 The Academy Awards always was about "popularity". There are other awards if you look for choices made by critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 The Cinematography category has got to be the one with the most surprises. That Batman, The Northman, Nope, and Top Gun: Maverick were all favored to be nominated and none of them were! I doubt many people expected Elvis and Tár to be nominated there! JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Infeed cinematography was a big surprise, but overall a bit disappointing. Love Roger Deakins but he gets nominated because he's Roger Deakins at this point. Biggest snubs were She Said, The Woman King, Devotion, Till & Pearl. And in lesser ways Women Talking, Nope & Glass Onion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 I guess I have a lot of homework to do Avatar 2, The Batman, The Fabelmans, Glass Onion, Pinocchio, and Turning Red are the only nominated films I have seen so far. This has got to be the year where I've seen the least amount of nominated movies by nomination day, by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Funny. For me it's the other way around. I've never seen so many of the nominated films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 I've wanted to see Everything Everywhere All At Once since it was in theaters, but didn't catch it there, and so far it's still only on Showtime, which I don't have. We want to see Yellowjackets though, so maybe we'll subscribe when Season 2 of that comes out So lame you can't even rent it for $3 now like most other 2022 movies more than a couple months old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jay said: I've wanted to see Everything Everywhere All At Once since it was in theaters, That's crazy you can't rent a movie that's been out of theaters this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 Yes I would have paid $3 to rent it by now, but the only options are either buy it for $20 or subscribe to Showtime. Hmmm, I guess I could check RedBox, I haven't used that service in like, I dunno 10 years or something now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 In Canada it's on Amazon Prime, weird that you don't have it there too. Canada: US: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 That's not weird. Every country has always been different from one another with these things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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