95th Academy Awards (2023 ceremony for 2022 films)

[Bespin 8,475]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

That's not weird.  Every country has always been different from one another with these things

 

They want you to subscribe to Showtime.

[Jay 37,281]

Obviously.

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(If the first month is free, then cancel!)

[Jay 37,281]

23 minutes ago, Jay said:

We want to see Yellowjackets though, so maybe we'll subscribe when Season 2 of that comes out

 

[Edmilson 7,384]

Top Gun: Maverick being nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay now means that the screenwriter of Transformers 2 has an Oscar nom  

[filmmusic 1,823]

1 minute ago, Edmilson said:

Top Gun: Maverick being nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay now means that the screenwriter of Transformers 2 has an Oscar nom  

Why it's adapted? It was a book originally?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

2 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

Why it's adapted? It was a book originally?

 

Sequels are always categorized as "adapted" by the Oscars.  They are based on the original film.  So yes, this year Rian Johnson is nominated for "adapting" his own original character/concept that he wrote for the first Knives Out film.

 

It makes zero sense.

[Tallguy 3,361]

Supporting actor / actress has always baffled me. So Michelle Williams who is definitely a supporting character in Fabelmans gets a best actress nod. But then you have The Banshees of Inisherin with (I'm assuming?) two leads. But they're nominated in two categories. Or is Gleason really playing a supporting role? I haven't seen it.

[JNHFan2000 2,943]

Yeah it's difficult.

Williams should've been in Supporting so that Viola Davis was in Leading.

 

And Gleeson does have less screentime than Farrell. And his character is in support of what Farrell's character is going through. But I think they put him in supporting to not undermine Farrell's chances at winning

[mstrox 6,643]

It all depends on where your production company submits you, and THAT is probably based on where they think you are more likely to get nominated or win.

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

20 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

Supporting actor / actress has always baffled me. So Michelle Williams who is definitely a supporting character in Fabelmans gets a best actress nod. But then you have The Banshees of Inisherin with (I'm assuming?) two leads. But they're nominated in two categories. Or is Gleason really playing a supporting role? I haven't seen it.

My understanding is that it’s not the Academy’s doing, but rather a matter of what the studio puts forward for consideration. It’s likely that they thought Michelle Williams’ performance was strong enough to campaign for her in the top category. It’s not unheard of, Anthony Hopkins was only in Silence of the Lambs for like 12 minutes and he won Best Actor. A studio wouldn’t do it for just anyone though.

 

EDIT @mstrox beat me to it

[Tallguy 3,361]

6 minutes ago, Docteur Qui said:

Anthony Hopkins was only in Silence of the Lambs for like 12 minutes and he won Best Actor.

 

Yeah, that was one of my go-tos for a long time.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I will say that I personally would consider Michelle Williams the co-lead of the film with LaBelle.  She's in the right category, but strategically she should've been supporting.

[Jay 37,281]

Wow, that's a hot take

 

I'd say Sam Fabelman is the only main character of the film, and everyone else is supporting or a cameo

[mstrox 6,643]

Lynch should have been nominated.

[Jay 37,281]

I think people have been nominated for shorter appearances, right?  Or maybe I'm thinking of the Emmys

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Lynch's scene is about 3 minutes.  A full minute of that is him silently lighting his cigar 

 

The Judi Dench win for Shakespeare in Love that was notorious for its brevity was 8 minutes.

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1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

Top Gun: Maverick being nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay now means that the screenwriter of Transformers 2 has an Oscar nom  

 

A gig's a gig. 

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

What frustrates me about this is when studios/companies don't have the confidence in their actors and put them forward for supporting roles even when they're clearly co-leads. I'm looking at you AMC, Rhea Seehorn is 50% of Better Call Saul and you'll never convince me otherwise. Mind you she's only just been nominated for the Emmys for the first time, so maybe they wanted to "secure" her nomination.

[Tallguy 3,361]

I don't see how you can even halfheartedly nominate Top Gun: Maverick for best pic and not nominate Kosinski for director. And a good case can be made that both should win.

[mstrox 6,643]

2 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

 

 

The Judi Dench win for Shakespeare in Love that was notorious for its brevity was 8 minutes.

Similarly, William Hurt in A History of Violence.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

31 minutes ago, mstrox said:

Similarly, William Hurt in A History of Violence.

 

Yeah I remember that.  He didn't win though.

 

I only found a list of winners, I'd love to see all nominees too.

 

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Oscar-winning actors with less than 20 minutes screentime:
Beatrice Straight – 5mins, 40 seconds (Network - 1976)
Gloria Grahame – 9mins, 32 seconds – (The Bad and the Beautiful - 1952)
Anthony Quinn – 8mins (Lust for Life - 1956)
Judi Dench – 8mins (Shakespeare in Love - 1998)
Ingrid Bergman – 14mins, 18 seconds (Murder on the Orient Express - 1974)
Alan Arkin – 14mins (Little Miss Sunshine - 2006)
Penelope Cruz – 15mins (Vicky Christina Barcelona - 2008)
Kim Basinger -15mins (L.A. Confidential - 1997)
Anne Hathaway – 15mins (Les Miserables - 2012)
David Niven – 15mins, 38 seconds (Separate Tables - 1958)
Anthony Hopkins – 16mins (The Silence of the Lambs - 1991)

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/actors-oscar-less-than-20-minutes-screentime/

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12 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

Ruben Ostlund got a Best Director nom lol, there's always a weird one

 

Geez, they really liked Triangle of Sadness, a movie I only heard bad things about.  It got a Best Picture nom too.

 

A movie that has a poster with a woman vomiting gold

 

Well it did win the Palm d’Or!

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Lots of shit movies have

[JNHFan2000 2,943]

Wow, there is a lot to do aroud  Andrea Riseborough and how she got her nomination. It's not very pretty.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,493]

As much as I love watching Beatrice Straight, in NETWORK - and it's a very good performance - how Jodie Foster didn't win, that year, is quite beyond me.

 

 

It doesn't matter how long Farrell is on screen for, Brendan Fraser will win Best Actor.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

For anyone interested in the unusual tactics used to get Andrea Riseborough her nomination, I recommend listening to this podcast on the subject.

 

Expect to see more of this in years to come.  The Academy acting branch is younger now, very online, and loves celebrity Instagram  

 

https://www.theringer.com/2023/1/24/23570306/how-the-shocking-andrea-riseborough-oscar-nomination-happened

[JNHFan2000 2,943]

Yeah, it's a crazy story. But I don't think that it will do her any favors (however good she really is the film) with the general public

[Jay 37,281]

Can anyone recommend a good article to read that explains it succinctly?  When I tried to google it the other day all the ones that seemed to do so were behind paywalls

[Sweeping Strings 2,344]

What will this year's big celebrity confrontation be? 

Will Paul Mescal give Tom Cruise a wedgie?

Will Spielberg kick Colin Farrell in the balls? 

Will Ana De Armas and Cate Blanchett jelly-wrestle? (We should be so lucky, lol). 

So exciting!!! 

 

[JNHFan2000 2,943]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Can anyone recommend a good article to read that explains it succinctly?  When I tried to google it the other day all the ones that seemed to do so were behind paywalls

Just one of many

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/andrea-riseborough-oscars-best-actress-campaign-explained-b2268681.html

[Jay 37,281]

So all that happened was a bunch of famous actors posted about her on social media?

[mstrox 6,643]

I don’t see anything on its face wrong with that - it’s the same thing that happens on Not Social Media at screenings, parties, etc.  It’s no more underhanded than paying for advertising, etc.  You’ll note that each of these articles and the podcast mention that critics and folks who had seen it thought it was a very good performance.

 

(the racial, gender, demographic stuff mentioned in the linked article is a separate issue that is not unique to this case and applies to traditionally campaigned movies as well).

[JNHFan2000 2,943]

True, it's not really problem in that sense.

 

But what is a problem is that there are 2 black actresses who have been nominated for all the different awards throughout the season, who have done phenomenal work in their films and in the way leading up to the awards being suddenly shut out of the biggest award of the season. And if then you look at how Riseborough suddenly out of nowhere got in (in less than 2 weeks), with the support of a lot of white actors/actresses, people are raising the question about if those people would do the same for an actress of color.

 

And it's yet another case of another year where none of the lead actor nominees are people of color (with only Michelle Yeoh) at the academy, even though there was plenty to choose from (like many other awards have done).

[Disco Stu 15,495]

The racial aspect is not interesting to me at all, a narrative created by people who look for reasons to outraged about something, anything, as usual.  I just found it interesting that they ran this campaign tactically in a way that hadn't been done before, coordinating all these famous connections via social media.  I don't think it's unfair or outrageous, but it will be very influential I think.

[Nick1Ø66 4,687]

Clearly, this slate of best pic noms is a signal that Hollywood wants to drag the Oscar ratings & buzz out of the ditch they've been in. Good. It's time for films like Braveheart, Titanic, Gladiator & Return of the King to start dominating awards season & winning across the board again.

 

Dreary, depressing dreck like Nomadland has its place, but if Hollywood truly wants to get people back in the cinema and excited about movies again, promoting and rewarding the films that actually do that is a good place to start.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,493]

1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said:

Will Spielberg kick Colin Farrell in the balls? 

"That's for your crappy American accent, in MINORITY REPORT!".

 

 

1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said:

Will Ana De Armas and Cate Blanchett jelly-wrestle? (We should be so lucky, lol).

I'd buy that for a dollar! 

 

 

1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said:

Will Paul Mescal give Tom Cruise a wedgie?

Is that all he'll be giving him? 

[Disco Stu 15,495]

8 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

Clearly, this slate of best pic noms is a signal that Hollywood want to drag the Oscar ratings & buzz out of the ditch they've been in. Good. It's time for films like Braveheart, Titanic, Gladiator & Return of the King to start dominating awards season & winning across the board again.

 

I'd agree if Top Gun and Avatar were anything but token nominees.  Neither are in the running for the actual win.

[Taikomochi 1,136]

I have seen the films. Riseborough’s performance is superior to the actresses she supposedly beat out. I don’t think the argument should be that black actresses should automatically be nominated because we need diversity, but rather black actresses shouldn’t be ignored when their work is just as good if not better than white actresses, which is often the case. As I said, Riseborough gave the superior performance. There is nothing wrong with her using the means available to her to get her work out there.
 

If anything, be mad that that giant piece of shit Blonde getting an actress nomination. I swear, playing Marilyn Monroe is a cheat code to getting an acting nod no matter how bad the movie or unremarkable the performance. Really laughable. 

[mstrox 6,643]

As long as Marcel the Shell With Shoes On wins, I couldn’t give a rip about the rest of the show

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I thought maybe we'd get the first Animated Feature slate in years with no Disney movie on it, but Turning Red snuck in.

 

I'll root for Puss in Boots.

[Jay 37,281]

I was thinking the same thing as I was watching the nominees announced live, and then bam

 

Maybe Wendell and Wild could have taken its spot, I dunno

[Jay 37,281]

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[King Mark 3,624]

9 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said:

But what is a problem is that there are 2 black actresses who have been nominated for all the different awards throughout the season, who have done phenomenal work in their films and in the way leading up to the awards being suddenly shut out of the biggest award of the season. And if then you look at how Riseborough suddenly out of nowhere got in (in less than 2 weeks), with the support of a lot of white actors/actresses, people are raising the question about if those people would do the same for an actress of color.

 

And it's yet another case of another year where none of the lead actor nominees are people of color (with only Michelle Yeoh) at the academy, even though there was plenty to choose from (like many other awards have done).

It's supposed to be the Annual Academy Awards not the Annual Woke Awards.  The Oscars used to be the most fun night of the year on TV, now it's a 3 hour polarizing lecture about race, gender and sexual orientation.

 

After the disastrous and humourless Golden Globes , maybe this years' nominees (Top Gun, Avatar...) indicate they want to turn that aspect of it down a notch.

9 hours ago, Taikomochi said:

 I don’t think the argument should be that black actresses should automatically be nominated because we need diversity, but rather black actresses shouldn’t be ignored when their work is just as good if not better than white actresses, which is often the case.

 Exactly

[Edmilson 7,384]

The Wokescars

[mstrox 6,643]

[Muad'Dib 1,800]

what is it with the obsession people have with the word woke

[King Mark 3,624]

It's when everything is viewed through the prism of race, gender and sexual orientation, sucking the fun out of everything like a gigantic black hole.

 

That's my primary definition

[Muad'Dib 1,800]

Yes, I know what it stands for but people use it for everything.

[Taikomochi 1,136]

In these contexts, “Woke” means “things I don’t like that I am scared to confront the reasons why”