THE ACOLYTE - 2024 Star Wars TV

[John Dutton 7,503]

What exactly cost so much? It looked cheap.

 

Aaannd. Welcome to the new page. 

[The Train Station 8,873]

All that money is probably absorbed into admin, marketing, and paper pushers. Only a fraction ends up on the screen.

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

This guy cuts through the malarkey and gets to the point...

 

 

[John Dutton 7,503]

That's a buncha malarkey!

[Tallguy 4,569]

10 hours ago, Bellosh said:

I think the world just needs a few years break from Star Wars

 

Just listen to the scores in the meantime 

 

That's a little like saying c. 198--- When the Ewok movies were on -- I think we need to let Star Wars rest. Believe me, Star Wars is resting.

[John Dutton 7,503]

SW had a great period post ROTJ up to the mid-90s when not much happened and merchandise was mostly sold at flea markets and garage sales. Lucas made it standard by the 2000s that all major retail stores carry SW junk and Disney has not only continued that but made it even worse, when even the Home Depot carries SW licensed crap.

 

But I liked that quiet period where it was all over, you had it on tape and some old beat up Kenner dolls tossed in a box, and there was the Star Tours ride at Disney with borderline knockoff merchandise in the gift shop.

[Gabriel Bezerra 423]

I think the easier assumption to make about Lucasfilm's leadership is that no one wants the job. 

 

In the end, my opinion on The Acolyte is that it was a waste of everyone's time, and saying "hey, I know this season wasn't that great, but look what Season 2 might be!" was the nail on the coffin for me. But even if I wasn't eager for a Season 2, disliked Season 1 overall, I don't think any show deserves to be deleted for a tax right-off, it just opens more precedents and they could still profit from the merch, it's just another baffling decision to remove it from the store.

[Andy 5,216]

I hope the fan preservationists all got it before it gets deleted like Willow. Love it or hate it, Episode 3 needs to be preserved for history. 

[Tallguy 4,569]

7 minutes ago, Andy said:

I hope the fan preservationists all got it before it gets deleted like Willow. Love it or hate it, Episode 3 needs to be preserved for history. 

 

Yeah. I'm not in favor of media vanishing. Of course in the BEFORE TIMES (before VHS was common and popular) this was pretty ordinary. I'm not watching Holmes and Yoyo anytime soon.

[Nick1Ø66 6,064]

1 hour ago, Gabriel Bezerra said:

I think the easier assumption to make about Lucasfilm's leadership is that no one wants the job. 

 

No one wants to be head of LucasFilm? I find this even more unlikely than the "Kennedy is blacking mailing people to keep her job" scenario. Sure, there are challenges to cleaning up that mess, but it's one of the most lucrative, powerful, prestigious jobs in Hollywood, and in a town full of people who are looking for power & prestige, I'm sure there are no shortage of options.

 

1 hour ago, Gabriel Bezerra said:

I don't think any show deserves to be deleted for a tax right-off

 

It's too late for a tax-write off. That only works when a project is cancelled before release (e.g. Batgirl). What can happen, however, is Disney+ deletes it because they don't want to pay residuals (e.g. Willow). 

 

20 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

 

Yeah. I'm not in favor of media vanishing. 

 

I feel the same. I'm not a fan of the show, but just erasing something entirely, as if it never existed, feels vaguely creepy to me.

 

The whole situation is a bit weird, given that reportedly as soon as a few weeks ago they were planning on a season 2. They invested almost 200 million in this thing, and there were tie-in books, YA novels, comics, etc. planned around the story. They had big plans for it. I can only imagine the decision to shelve the whole thing came from above Kennedy's head.

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

1 hour ago, Gabriel Bezerra said:

I think the easier assumption to make about Lucasfilm's leadership is that no one wants the job.

With its fractured and disillusioned fan base, I don't envy the person (Jon Favreau) to take up the job. It's going to be an uphill climb for sure...and while I don't think we can get back to the level of excitement that anticipated 'The Force Awakens' anytime soon, I believe Star Wars can get its mojo back.

 

1 hour ago, Gabriel Bezerra said:

I don't think any show deserves to be deleted for a tax right-off, it just opens more precedents and they could still profit from the merch, it's just another baffling decision to remove it from the store.

The sales figures for 'The Acolyte' merch probably support this move.

 

24 minutes ago, Andy said:

I hope the fan preservationists all got it before it gets deleted like Willow. Love it or hate it, Episode 3 needs to be preserved for history. 

It needs to be preserved and studied as a cautionary example. At the very least, the memes will live on.

 

6 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

They had big plans for it. I can only imagine the decision to shelve the whole thing came from above Kennedy's head.

It's a portent of things to come. Her contract is up in October.

[The Train Station 8,873]

25 minutes ago, Andy said:

I hope the fan preservationists all got it before it gets deleted like Willow. Love it or hate it, Episode 3 needs to be preserved for history. 

 

They can tape it onto their computers?

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

1 minute ago, Unlucky Bastard said:

They can tape it onto their computers?

"Tape it".

 

Haven't heard that in a while!

[Nick1Ø66 6,064]

17 minutes ago, Unlucky Bastard said:

 

They can tape it onto their computers?

 

My computer only tapes on Betamax, and I can't find the cassettes anymore. 

[The Train Station 8,873]

Oh you know what I mean, to tape it onto a computer disc so that it can be played on other computers.

[Edmilson 9,135]

2 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

It needs to be preserved and studied as a cautionary example. At the very least, the memes will live on.

 

The "The power of manyyyyyyy" scene is preserved for posterity thanks to social media 

 

I wonder what future Star Wars fans 50 years from now will think about it. Perhaps the same reaction we have to the Holiday Special?

[Tallguy 4,569]

4 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

The "The power of manyyyyyyy" scene is preserved for posterity thanks to social media 

 

That was not even close to the worst thing about the show.

 

5 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Perhaps the same reaction we have to the Holiday Special?

 

No. And Acolyte was still more watchable than Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Way more than the Holiday Special.

[Edmilson 9,135]

9 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

No. And Acolyte was still more watchable than Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Way more than the Holiday Special.

I didn't said in terms of quality, more like future fans will be like "well, that was weird time for Star Wars", much like we are today when we see the corny Holiday Special.

[Bellosh 3,941]

33 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

 and Revenge of the Sith. Way more than the Holiday Special.

 

Revenge of the Sith is art. The true finale to Star Wars. The culmination of Lucas's SW

 

Acolyte is the bottom of the Disney ketchup bottle with all the juice that makes fart noises when you squeeze the last bits out.

[Doo_liss 6,640]

And you can't even watch it to catch John Williams best SW score in context.

[Tallguy 4,569]

49 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

The culmination of Lucas's SW

 

That's a truly depressing thought. Which is probably why I felt unwell at the end of it in 2005.

[Doo_liss 6,640]

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

2 hours ago, Tallguy said:

That was not even close to the worst thing about the show.

The most cringe-inducing, then?

 

2 hours ago, Tallguy said:

And Acolyte was still more watchable than Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.

There's no accounting for taste. 
 

1 hour ago, Bellosh said:

Acolyte is the bottom of the Disney ketchup bottle with all the juice that makes fart noises when you squeeze the last bits out.

I couldn't think of a better analogy if I tried. 

[Doo_liss 6,640]

Problem with that analogy, is that the ketchup that comes out, is usually still good.

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

Just now, The Great Gonzales said:

Problem with that analogy, is that the ketchup that comes out, is usually still good.

 

1 hour ago, Bellosh said:

Acolyte is the bottom of the expired Disney ketchup bottle with all the juice that makes fart noises when you squeeze the last bits out.

Fixed.

[Doo_liss 6,640]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

 

Fixed.

Expiration dates are just suggestions....

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

2 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Acolyte is the bottom of the Disney ketchup bottle—which has been sitting in the fridge since 2015, and is well, WELL past expiration—with all the juice that makes fart noises when you squeeze the last bits out.

 

[Bellosh 3,941]

It's not my fault great gonzales settles for liquidity fart ketchup (no offense friend)

 

besides my analogy still works. Just like how you would still eat the hot dog with that watery fart ketchup you guys still watched acolyte (well some of you)

[Edmilson 9,135]

2 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Acolyte is the bottom of the Disney ketchup bottle with all the juice that makes fart noises when you squeeze the last bits out.

So what you're saying is that @Naïve Old Fart would enjoy this show? 

[Bellosh 3,941]

If that's a play on what Brits eat (is he a brit?) then well done

[Doo_liss 6,640]

7 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

It's not my fault great gonzales settles for liquidity fart ketchup (no offense friend)

Well, you wouldn't want solid ketchup either....

 

The fart sound is just caused by the air contained in the bottle.

[Bellosh 3,941]

 

3 minutes ago, The Great Gonzales said:

The fart sound is just caused by the air contained in the bottle.

 

[Doo_liss 6,640]

Just now, Bellosh said:

 

 

I wear clear glasses, get it right!

[Edmilson 9,135]

9 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

If that's a play on what Brits eat (is he a brit?) then well done

It's a play on his username actually 

 

Not sure if Brits like ketchup, seems to be more of an American thing.

[Bellosh 3,941]

42 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

It's a play on his username actually 

 

Not sure if Brits like ketchup, seems to be more of an American thing.

 

Idk man you should see their food pretty wild at times.

 

Naive old fart waking up to these comments tomorrow like 

 

[Gabriel Bezerra 423]

7 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

With its fractured and disillusioned fan base, I don't envy the person (Jon Favreau)

I don't really get wanting a creative guy to get into corporate business. I don't know how James Gunn is doing it, but I don't see Favreau having much freedom to keep writing and directing.

 

7 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

The sales figures for 'The Acolyte' merch probably support this move.

The only merch I heard about was the Black Series Stranger Helmet that sold out. But if it isn't Lego I'm pretty unaware of Star Wars merch.

[Groovygoth666 1,045]

On 22/08/2024 at 4:30 PM, Mr. Hooper said:

 

Surely the Acolyters (Acolytinians?) who blame the "bigots" for the cancellation of the show can't also lay blame on them for this move too?

 

Wait a sec, sure they can!

 

I dunno, did they blame them for the Haslab Reva Lightsaber not getting funded?

 

1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

It's a play on his username actually 

 

Not sure if Brits like ketchup, seems to be more of an American thing.

 

As a Brit I can confirm we do indeed enjoy ketchup tomatoe sauce on fries chips. It's mustard that's less of a thing, ours being much stronger it doesn't go with many things.

 

20 minutes ago, Gabriel Bezerra said:

The only merch I heard about was the Black Series Stranger Helmet that sold out. But if it isn't Lego I'm pretty unaware of Star Wars merch.

 

Yeah that's why I said if there was any as I wasn't sure if there had been any on the store before, but there's definitely not now. There's merch up on Amazon, so presumably that would have been on the Disney store as well. The Black Series figures are pre orders so it'll be interesting to see if those and the Stranger Helmet get cancelled.

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

29 minutes ago, Gabriel Bezerra said:

I don't really get wanting a creative guy to get into corporate business. I don't know how James Gunn is doing it, but I don't see Favreau having much freedom to keep writing and directing.

I think you need a president with good creative sense and instincts to steer the ship, and one who is in tune with the general fan base.

 

For my money, Favreau's that person. But, if he's offered the position, it'll depend on what he wants to do at this stage in his career...

 

And for all the talk of "no one wants the job", I have a feeling that the chance to head Lucasfilm—and to be the one to bring some of its lustre back—would be too tantalizing an opportunity for him to pass up.

 

3 minutes ago, Groovygoth666 said:

I dunno, did they blame them for the Haslab Reva Lightsaber not getting funded?

I guess I was kidding about that. But I wouldn't be surprised if some did.

[John Dutton 7,503]

Whoever would be in charge would still have to bow to the demands of the DEI race hustlers and political correctness committees within Disney corp. Ultimately you'd still end up with a very manufactured curated product that leaves people cold or indifferent instead of just being something good. And nobody would want to buy the dolls.

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

Just now, Brock Lovett said:

Whoever would be in charge would still have to bow to the demands of the DEI race hustlers and political correctness committees within Disney corp. Ultimately you'd still end up with a very manufactured curated product that leaves people cold or indifferent instead of just being something good.

It's been reported that Marvel has quietly purged some executives of the activist variety. We shall see if Lucasfilm follows suit...

 

But like I've said, if he's hired, Favreau would bring in his own people who are loyal to him, so the Kennedy hires would be shown the door.

[Bellosh 3,941]

wtf more is there to do with star wars after return of the jedi

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

Just now, Bellosh said:

WTF more is there to do with star wars after return of the jedi

That's a whole other ball of wax! 

[John Dutton 7,503]

4 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

wtf more is there to do with star wars after return of the jedi

 

I agree, at least when it comes to the main story. I never liked the sequel novels from the 90s (which also brought back Palpatine and had a clone of Luke named Luuke) and the idea of just hitting the reset button after the end of ROTJ and making a whole nother trilogy of more or less the same shit happening all over again just sucks.

[Bellosh 3,941]

ROTJ Luke is peak Jedi don't need the acolyte

[Groovygoth666 1,045]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

It's been reported that Marvel has quietly purged some executives of the activist variety. We shall see if Lucasfilm follows suit...

That's coming from Chris Gore, who has been reporting on the industry for a long time, but I doubt if any of these people had been fired they'd stay quite about it. 

[HunterTech 1,290]

A corporation's interests is always in every possible market, so while they might start claiming to slow down on the progressive pandering, it'll be a corner they won't stop fully looking at.

I just hope it's instead for anyone that actually has a story to tell, and not them continuing to try desperately to make their existing properties even more universally crowd pleasing. This stuff just won't be for everyone sometimes.

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

5 minutes ago, Groovygoth666 said:

That's coming from Chris Gore, who has been reporting on the industry for a long time, but I doubt if any of these people had been fired they'd stay quite about it. 

Maybe they were given a golden parachute with a NDA.

[Groovygoth666 1,045]

1 minute ago, Mr. Hooper said:

Maybe they were given a golden parachute with a NDA.

Maybe, but Beau DeMayo hasn't exactly been quiet, it just doesn't ring true to me that supposedly multiple people have been fired and not one has come forward, it's one of those take it with a grain of salt. Like I get not wanting to face Disney lawyers, but he's been outspoken and has promised to talk more about it soon, so mass firings and nothing on social media with one guy saying it happened is kinda sus. 

[Mr. Hooper 3,550]

Well, whatever the case may be, I guess the proof will be in the product going forward.

[HunterTech 1,290]

And like I said earlier, a She-Hulk/The Marvels writer is credited on the Deadpool and Wolverine movie, so I'm not gonna expect Disney to immediately remember who actually did what on certain projects. If it's big enough, then they'll probably keep having some gigs from those 'types' under their umbrella.