Bellosh 3,398 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 It is for me. And i don't think it will ever change. You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 No, but when it came on in "Flight From Peru" on my drive home today, you would have had a hard time getting me to think of a better one. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,341 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Not even close. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,090 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 If Adventure has a theme… it must be… The Raiders March. I can’t pick a favorite, but I dress like Indiana Jones when I walk my dog 3 times a day. That means I hum the theme at least 3 times a day. TolkienSS, Brando and Bellosh 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It's a great character theme and of course defines the entire franchise but I rarely listen to it and it is nowhere near my favorite JW theme. ConorPower and Bellosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 906 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It's not even my favorite theme from the franchise, and that's not to diminish it any way. It is, however, I think one his character themes that best captures the essence of the character. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 372 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I prefer the grail theme, myself Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 No. Of all the big brassy stuff he's done Superman march would be my favourite. But it is awesome and irreplaceable. Karol Bellosh and QuartalHarmony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Oh gosh, no. I mean it's a great, iconic theme, but it's been overplayed over the years for me. I also don't veer much to that kind of rambunctious march stuff anymore. My favourite Williams theme would be the JURASSIC PARK theme, both of whose parts are more majestic than jaunty. Also slightly overplayed, true, but I try to portion out my exposure to it these days. Beyond that, it would be something in his "religious"/pastoral mode -- something like "The Face of Pan", "Angela's Prayer", "Restoration" etc. MrJosh and Bellosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Looking at it as a concert piece even for a John Williams march this one always felt a little too repetitive to me. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Jurassic Park for me. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 The Raiders' March is definitely one of my favorite John Williams themes. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxTheHouseelf 324 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It's one of his signature themes for sure, but personally I don't like it at all. Hard to describe what it is exactly but for me it sounds too "simple" in a way that it lacks the depth other themes seem to have. And as others said already, Raiders March with Marions theme in the middle and then again the March + Marions Theme in concert is just overkill. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 590 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I like it a lot, but wouldn't call it my favourite. It's hard to pick a favourite among all his great themes. I think Jane Eyre has a shot at being his best theme, at least for me. I also like The Reivers themes a lot. Almost every JW score has a strong main theme. That's his strength imo Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 217 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Not even close for the same reasons others mentioned (too simple and repetitive). The only variation of that theme that I really like is at the end of the Indy 4 end credits: Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 The theme does a marvellous job in the movie, but I am happy, that in the last two Indy movies its usage decreased and as I mentioned before, I just have no particular interest in it as a concert piece. There I prefer Marion's Theme on its own. And I would really love to hear one day "The Desert Chase" in concert. Recordings of the Raiders March tend to remind me of that. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,640 Posted November 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Andy said: If Adventure has a theme… it must be… The Raiders March. I can’t pick a favorite, but I dress like Indiana Jones when I walk my dog 3 times a day. That means I him the theme at least 3 times a day. That damn music follows your dog whereever he goes. Brando, MrJosh, Andy and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post QuartalHarmony 542 Posted November 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2022 I particularly like the TOD end credits where he interpolates Short Round's theme between phrases of the Raiders theme. Quite delightful and makes me smile. Brónach, Bellosh, Once and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 i was admittedly in a polling mood last night for obvious reasons. but i think i genuinely overestimated how many people view this as their favorite theme here. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I gotta admit, it wouldn't make my top 10. Which is not to say I'm a contrarian, or think it's bad. It's just not in the topmost tier of my personal favorites. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It's a great theme, perfect for what it is, and a rightful classic. But no, not even close. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I love the theme, and for me it it hasn't been over-played so I definitely enjoy it when I hear it and the adventure it calls to mind, but I'm most drawn to some of Williams' more sentimental and childhood-evoking themes, like Somewhere in my Memory, the 'family' theme from the first Harry Potter, Tootles theme from Hook. I also like the theme from Stepmom, The Accidental Tourist, Shmi's theme from TPM since they evoke a similar sentimentality to me. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, MrJosh said: Stepmom I was just thinking, "The Days Between" might actually be my favourite John Williams movie theme. But "Rey's Theme" and "Theme from Sabrina" are close. filmmusic and MrJosh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Not even close, and probably not even my favorite theme from the series. I agree with the others who think it comes across as too simple & repetitive. It's a famous theme, for sure, mostly for franchise nostalgia reasons—but the famous themes aren't necessarily the best ones. EDIT: Side note, but I also for the life of me don't understand the point of Williams performing both the complete Raiders March and Marion's Theme on the same concert (especially if they're one after the other, like in Berlin). I kind of hope that in the future if he features Marion's Theme, that he will just play his new condensed Raiders March version that omits her theme. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It's great, I love it to pieces But it's not my absolute utter #1 favorite Andy and Bellosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rough cut 1,714 Posted November 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2022 I love that song! Martinland, Bellosh, Bayesian and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 in-dee-ann-AHHHHHHH doc-tor joooooones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrJosh 892 Posted November 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2022 One thing I do love about Raider's March is that it works wonderfully both in march form and also in slower, contemplative form. Jay, Bellosh, Brando and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, MrJosh said: One thing I do love about Raider's March is that it works wonderfully both in march form and also in slower, contemplative form. MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,398 Posted November 9, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2022 me right now with the only vote for 'Yes' Manakin Skywalker, Chewy, pete and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 it's certainly one of his best themes, but it's really hard to pinpoint the best JW theme ever MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 hours ago, MrJosh said: One thing I do love about Raider's March is that it works wonderfully both in march form and also in slower, contemplative form. But in that regard, I think, the Imperial March works even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,090 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 13 hours ago, Tom said: That damn music follows your dog whereever he goes. My dog hums the Short Round counterpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,037 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 10 hours ago, MrJosh said: One thing I do love about Raider's March is that it works wonderfully both in march form and also in slower, contemplative form. And in the form of adrenaline-pumping action music (e.g. Desert Chase). Not to mention big heroic versions that aren't marches (e.g. Flight From Peru). And then there are passages that are more tense or emotionally complex (e.g. To Nepal). Like most great Williams themes, it's extremely versatile. ThePenitentMan1, Brando, Bellosh and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,090 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 09/11/2022 at 9:55 AM, Bellosh said: i was admittedly in a polling mood last night for obvious reasons. but i think i genuinely overestimated how many people view this as their favorite theme here. I am shocked to hear how many people say it's not even close. Really??? What is your favorite then? I can't pick a favorite personally, but it's my favorite when I'm listening to it. Top music for Top Men. I'm also surprised to hear it called repetitive. That description fits Jurassic Park, which would be the "not even close" choice for me. (I imagine many of our members were of just the right age to have JP be their #1.) If I recall correctly, Williams has said it was not an easy melody to write. Plus you have the whole two themes stuck together anecdote. I think its familiarity is taken for granted. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,322 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 Clicking "No" in the poll does NOT indicate that it's "not even close" to being a favorite. It only indicates that it is not "very close" to your favorite, nor is it only 2nd to a Star Wars theme Once, ThePenitentMan1 and Bellosh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 41 minutes ago, Andy said: I am shocked to hear how many people say it's not even close. Really??? What is your favorite then? I can't pick a favorite personally, but it's my favorite when I'm listening to it. Top music for Top Men. I'm also surprised to hear it called repetitive. That description fits Jurassic Park, which would be the "not even close" choice for me. (I imagine many of our members were of just the right age to have JP be their #1.) If I recall correctly, Williams has said it was not an easy melody to write. Plus you have the whole two themes stuck together anecdote. I think its familiarity is taken for granted. i'm surprised a little bit that its only me and someone else (REVEAL YOURSELF ) that find it our favorite. what blows my mind with the theme, is that after the final hurrah fanfare, you get this little bit (2:09-end) and it's JW signifying Indy is onto another adventure. It's unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 1:25 PM, Bellosh said: (REVEAL YOURSELF ) You made the poll. You have the power to click the button that lets everyone see who voted for which option TolkienSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 oh shit i forgot i could do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 To be clear, you can check it off right now and it will display them. It isn't something you can only do on setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,398 Posted November 10, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 i made this on mobile and just forgot @ThePenitentMan1 Disco Stu, Andy, Brando and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 No surprise, another user with an Indy username/avatar Brando, ThePenitentMan1 and Bellosh 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,090 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 He chose wisely, and passed. ThePenitentMan1 and Bellosh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 742 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I'll admit, when I first saw the question (before anybody else voted) it really got me thinking about whether the Indy theme was actually my favorite of JW's themes, despite being such a big Indy fan myself. After seeing how everyone else voted, though, I knew what my vote needed to be. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,090 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 I'll put it this way... If I am ever in the position where I'm swimming for my life to attempt to board a submerging Nazi Submarine, I wouldn't want the Jurassic Park theme to get me there. I love that the theme is played to people on screen literally cheering and punching the air. I don't think all those Arab diggers would get off their butts if Indy rode his horse by them without the theme. Brando, QuartalHarmony, Cameron007 and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 217 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 6:37 PM, Andy said: I am shocked to hear how many people say it's not even close. Really??? What is your favorite then? I can't pick a favorite personally, but it's my favorite when I'm listening to it. Top music for Top Men. I was one of the not even close ones. Not gonna lie here, the Raiders March is for me a track that I don't skip, but I'm happy when it's over. I love the Indiana Jones scores for the female character and macguffin themes. And since you asked about the favorite theme, I also couldn't pick a single favorite but I can savely say that the Raiders March is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 No. I can easily find 100 better themes Williams has written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 Dare you to write out all 100 QuartalHarmony and Cameron007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,090 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Just got back from walking my dog. (I am named after her). And as I was humming the theme, I was reminded how the most perfect melodies are deceptively obvious. Well, of course it resolves that way. And yes, that is very song-like. But I cannot imagine how hard it must’ve been to come up with something that becomes ubiquitous and well known. As Williams likes to say, daunting. Yet here we are, taking it for granted that it came from blank staff paper. If another composer wrote that today, people would lose their minds. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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