Popular Post Giftheck 916 Posted December 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 17/12/2022 at 9:51 PM, Clockwork Angel said: I feel like I can hear some edits 0:12 Maaaybe 0:36 Ending is either an edit, or just JW stopping the take. Definitely an abrupt note change rather than an edit in the first. You can hear there's no edit in the strings underneath that. The entire passage seems to match note-for-note the revisions in the sheet music that leaked ages ago. He definitely stopped the take at the end, the sheet music also ends in that place with that last note meaning to segue directly into the part in which the chorus starts. I assume he did something similar with the End Credits section - only recorded the intro and outtro segues and then had 6M9 edited in. Here's how I believe the transitionf from the V1 intro should sound: 6M9 DVD Version V1 Segue.wav On another note, I am amazed that nobody actually noticed that the sheet music presented this and not the OST opening for all these years. It's kinda a shame this is the cleanest version we have but at least we'll hear it in the best quality when they eventually get round to doing the Prequel expansions we all know will happen one day. Brando, ThePenitentMan1, Manakin Skywalker and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Giftheck said: at least we'll hear it in the best quality when they eventually get round to doing the Prequel expansions we all know will happen one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 "Silly little march"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 On 20/12/2022 at 4:18 PM, Giftheck said: 6M9 DVD Version V1 Segue.wav 10.73 MB · 279 downloads Funny, I made an edit that sounded exactly like this on the day the documentary dropped, but I deleted it a few days ago because I assumed it was completely inaccurate. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 3,386 Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 From an article about the documentary: As Mary McCartney adds: "To this day, it’s the leading studio for film soundtracks. You could do a whole documentary of just all of the film scores that have been done there." Um... YES, PLEASE! Once, Brando, Giftheck and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Funnily Disney+ says now this is coming 6th of January. WTF?!? I almost/kind of started this already .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Where does it say that? It doesn't say that anywhere on my end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Norris 18 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Hi Guys just watched this on Disney+ and was nice to see a generous amount of time given to JW recording there. I’d also never seen the footage of them recording the End Credits of Episode III before as well as the Battle of the Heros piece. The documentary is not without its floors however, the major one being that Goldfinger (song and score) was never recorded at Abbey Road despite Jimmy Page’s recollection of playing on it there & a graphic which is actually 4 years out. How many other mistakes are in there regarding accuracy of the recording of JW scores (or anything else for that matter), who knows? Anyway… Wishing you all a safe & prosperous new year Jim Ware and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Giftheck 916 Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 The most interesting thing about the sections about Williams' work is that we get to hear two officially-unreleased pieces from the Prequels - the first being 6M7 The Great Duel (though the subtitle claims it's Duel of the Fates) which is basically a recycling of material from the Phantom Menace DVD documentaries, but then we also got the aforementioned previously-unheard first version of the opening to 6M9 Revenge of the Sith DVD version. It was also nice to see them recording the end credits from ROTS. Seeing all this makes me wonder just how much footage was actually recorded of those sessions, it would certainly be a treat to see that, but that's just a fool's dream, I suppose Brando, Manakin Skywalker and enderdrag64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Giftheck said: Seeing all this makes me wonder just how much footage was actually recorded of those sessions, it would certainly be a treat to see that, but that's just a fool's dream, I suppose According to those Pablo Hidalgo Post Notes blogs I found a week or two ago, the Hyperspace Webcam feature on starwars.com was taken to Abbey Road for the recording sessions of ROTS. While that wasn't taking video it would've taken a picture once every 20 seconds to go on starwars.com, and I'd imagine that most of those pictures still exist somewhere in the Lucasfilm archives. Sadly I've never found a still active independent archive of any of those pictures, most people who did repost them at the time did so on picture sites that don't exist anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 3,386 Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 The most interesting thing to me was seeing Williams get really giddy about Abbey Road. Most interviews with Williams seem friendly and polite. But then you see when something genuinely excites him, something that HE is a fan of. That and finding out that Jimmy Page played on Goldfinger. (Even if it wasn't at Abbey Road.) Manakin Skywalker, Giftheck and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Giftheck 916 Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 John Williams fanboyed. Those are words I'd never thought I'd write Tallguy, Brando and Manakin Skywalker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,863 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 The short segment on Williams is a tease for a feature length documentary they could make. I seriously hope Spielberg plans on making a documentary on him. Manakin Skywalker and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 3,386 Posted January 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Brando said: The short segment on Williams is a tease for a feature length documentary they could make. I seriously hope Spielberg plans on making a documentary on him. The Batonertons. Manakin Skywalker, Giftheck and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 360 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Brando said: I seriously hope Spielberg plans on making a documentary [...] "Johnny (The Maestro)" Kidding aside: We caught that Tornatore documentary at the movie theatre, and it would indeed be wonderful to have a similar treatment of Williams' œuvre/life for the movies and the concert hall... Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,368 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Watched the documentary today and yes, the got the Beatles and John Williams, but If you really want to see a great documentary about a studio, watch "Sound City". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Had a quick skim - it's ok. I suppose the 5 minute with Williams is nice to see once, but I feel that to get the most from it you have to have a wider appreciation of mainstream music recorded there, which I don't really have. Personally, my interest would be more in seeing SS's personal recordings of sessions, and seeing JW's interactions and discussions with filmmakers over changes and revisions. I get the impression that many here would love a polished talking head styled documentary to go on a Blu ray and sit proudly on their shelf, but I don't think that adds anything to our knowledge of his process. enderdrag64 and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,863 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Personally, my interest would be more in seeing SS's personal recordings of sessions, and seeing JW's interactions and discussions with filmmakers over changes and revisions. I get the impression that many here would love a polished talking head styled documentary to go on a Blu ray and sit proudly on their shelf, but I don't think that adds anything to our knowledge of his process. I would like both. Think of the 90’s-00’s making of documentary’s. Lots of sitting there and talking, but plenty of on set stuff as well. Recording session/booth talks would be great. If they did a documentary like this, I would also hope, on the discussion of Superman, we might find out what specifically made JW walk out of Superman 2. That’d be an interesting tidbit. MikeH and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Nice documentary. I wonder if John Williams really recognized Ringo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Haha yeah I'm not sure he did, it seemed very awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,368 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I would not have recognized Ringo Starr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,481 Posted January 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2023 I found a list of scores recorded at the Abbey Road Studios from 1981 to 2013: Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) - John Williams Dragonslayer (1981) - Alex North Outland (1981) - Jerry Goldsmith The Dark Crystal (1982) - Trevor Jones The Secret of NIMH (1982) - Jerry Goldsmith Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983) - John Williams Brazil (1985) - Michael Kamen Ladyhawke (1985) - Andrew Powell Young Sherlock Holmes (1985) - Bruce Broughton Highlander (1986) - Michael Kamen Aliens (1986) - James Horner An American Tail (1986) - James Horner The Last Emperor (1987) - Ryuichi Sakamoto, David Byrne, Cong Su RoboCop (1987) - Basil Poledouris Willow (1988) - James Horner The Land Before Time (1988) - James Horner All Dogs Go to Heaven (1989) - Ralph Burns An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (1991) - James Horner Tom and Jerry: The Movie (1992) - Henry Mancini Chaplin (1992) - John Barry Shadow of the Wolf (1992) - Maurice Jarre The Man Without a Face (1993) - James Horner M. Butterfly (1993) - Howard Shore Interview with the Vampire (1994) - Elliot Goldenthal Little Women (1994) - Thomas Newman Braveheart (1995) - James Horner Copycat (1995) - Christopher Young The Crucible (1996) - George Fenton Brassed Off (1996) - Trevor Jones G.I. Jane (1997) - Howard Shore (???) Lost in Space (1997) - Bruce Broughton Wilde (1997) - Debbie Wiseman Practical Magic (1997) - Alan Silvestri The Prince of Egypt (1998) - Hans Zimmer What Dreams May Come (1998) - Michael Kamen Bicentennial Man (1999) - James Horner Message in a Bottle (1999) - Gabriel Yared Sleepy Hollow (1999) - Danny Elfman Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) - John Williams The Talented Mr. Ripley (1999) - Gabriel Yared Captain Corelli's Mandolin (2001) - Stephen Warbeck Chicken Run (2000) - John Powell, Harry Gregson-Williams My Dog Skip (2000) - William Ross Hollow Man (2000) - Jerry Goldsmith Enemy at the Gates (2001) - James Horner Shrek (2001) - John Powell, Harry Gregson-Williams Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001) - Elliot Goldenthal Iris (2001) - James Horner From Hell (2001) - Trevor Jones The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) - Howard Shore Return to Never Land (2002) - Joel McNeely The Time Machine (2002) - Klaus Badelt Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001) - John Williams Gangs of New York (2002) - Howard Shore Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002) - John Williams The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - Howard Shore Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002) - John Williams The Hours (2002) - Philip Glass Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life (2003) - Alan Silvestri The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) - Howard Shore Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (2003) - Harry Gregson-Williams Cold Mountain (2003) - Gabriel Yared Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004) - John Williams King Arthur (2004) - Hans Zimmer Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004) - Edward Shearmer Kingdom of Heaven (2005) - Harry Gregson-Williams Because of Winn-Dixie (2005) - Rachel Portman Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005) - Julian Nott Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) - John Williams The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) - Harry Gregson-Williams Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) - Danny Elfman The Queen (2006) - Alexandre Desplat The Black Dahlia (2006) - Mark Isham The Omen (2006) - Marco Beltrami United 93 (2006) - John Powell Apocalypto (2006) - James Horner The Water Horse (2007) - James Newton Howard The Golden Compass (2007) - Alexandre Desplat Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007) - Nicholas Hooper 3:10 to Yuma (2007) - Marco Beltrami Stardust (2007) - Ilan Eshkeri Spider-Man 3 (2007) - Christopher Young Eastern Promises (2007) - Howard Shore There Will Be Blood (2007) - Jonny Greenwood Shrek the Third (2007) - Harry Gregson-Williams The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian (2008) - Harry Gregson-Williams Defiance (2008) - James Newton Howard Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa (2008) - Hans Zimmer City of Ember (2008) - Andrew Lockington Hellboy II: The Golden Army (2008) - Danny Elfman The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor (2008) - Randy Edelman Journey to the Center of the Earth (2008) - Andrew Lockington Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009) - Alexandre Desplat Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2009) - Nicholas Hooper Amelia (2009) - Gabriel Yared Astro Boy (2009) - John Ottman Nanny McPhee Returns (2010) - James Newton Howard Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (2010) - Harry Gregson-Williams Robin Hood (2010) - Marc Streitenfeld Iron Man 2 (2010) - John Debney Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 (2010) - Alexandre Desplat The King's Speech (2010) - Alexandre Desplat The Tree of Life (2011) - Alexandre Desplat Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 (2011) - Alexandre Desplat The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 (2011) - Carter Burwell Hugo (2011) - Howard Shore The Iron Lady (2011) - Thomas Newman The Pirates! Band of Misfits (2012) - Theodore Shapiro Journey 2 The Mysterious Island (2012) - Andrew Lockington Prometheus (2012) - Marc Streitenfeld The Avengers (2012) - Alan Silvestri For Greater Glory (2012) - James Horner ParaNorman (2012) - Jon Brion Rise of the Guardians (2012) - Alexandre Desplat Skyfall (2012) - Thomas Newman The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) - Howard Shore Zero Dark Thirty (2012) - Alexandre Desplat 42 (2013) - Mark Isham Iron Man 3 (2013) - Brian Tyler Source: http://musicbehindthescreen.blogspot.com/2013/08/scoring-stages-abbey-road.html It seems hard to find a complete list covering 2013 to present, there are several incomplete sources on the web... There's surely a great amount of work to do here... EDIT: Some more scores are listed here: https://www.malonedigital.com/tomlinson.pdf I can't confirm them all myself, but those ones can be added to the first list for sure: The Final Conflict (1981) - Jerry Goldsmith Monsignor (1982) - John Williams First Blood (1982) - Jerry Goldsmith Amadeus (1983) - Sir Neville Marriner The Right Stuff / North and South (album, 1985) - Bill Conti GerateWohl, Ricard, Tallguy and 3 others 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Had to watch this to see what all the fuss was about. It was so-so. Terribly by-the-numbers; from a documentary point of view, not that interesting. But I suppose it caught the big tentpoles of the studio's history. Funny, though, all these years I thought the first STAR WARS was recorded in Abbey Road as well, so was confused when they went straight for RAIDERS in the docu. Had to doublecheck my Arista box to find out it was recorded in Denham, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 51 minutes ago, Thor said: Funny, though, all these years I thought the first STAR WARS was recorded in Abbey Road as well, so was confused when they went straight for RAIDERS in the docu. They are not very precise about which Star Wars were recorded there, but us, the fans, we know that Raiders was recorded in 1981, so it excludes A New Hope and Empire (even if some sources says that some late sessions of Empire have been recorded to Abbey in january 1980, but we don't know for sure which sessions were used in the final mixes, if they were used... I can imagine the sound engineer in LA saying: we can't use the Abbey Roads touch-up sessions for the mixes, they sound too different than those of the Anvil Studios... anyway...). But in the documentary, they do show some footage from A New Hope, just to add to the confusion. These are the little defaults of those documentaries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, Bespin said: They are not very precise about which Star Wars were recorded there, but us, the fans, we know that Raiders was recorded in 1981, so it excludes A New Hope and Empire (even if some sources says that some late sessions of Empire have been recorded to Abbey in january 1980, but we don't know for sure which sessions were used in the final mixes, if they were used... I can imagine the sound engineer in LA saying: we can't use the Abbey Roads touch-up sessions for the mixes, they sound too different than those of the Anvil Studios... anyway...). But in the documentary, they do show some footage from A New Hope, just to add to the confusion. These are the little defaults of those documentaries... The trailers made it seem very much that Star Wars was part of the Abbey Road legend in 1977. Because "Return of the Jedi!" doesn't have the same ooomph. I don't remember why but ten years ago I was looking up what Star Wars movies were recorded there so I knew Star Wars wasn't there. But I missed that Raiders was at Abbey Road. Nobody is going to comment that Williams referred to Raiders as "that silly little march?" I mean, it's not heretical or anything and he certainly didn't kill my childhood. But it was an interesting remark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Tallguy said: Nobody is going to comment that Williams referred to Raiders as "that silly little march?" I mean, it's not heretical or anything and he certainly didn't kill my childhood. But it was an interesting remark. He is often quite self-effacing about his music. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Tim Burden pointed out to me that the Violin / Flute Concerto was also recorded at Abbey Road in 1983 by Leonard Slatkin, with John Williams present at the sessions. GerateWohl and WilliamsStarShip2282 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,368 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 22 hours ago, Tallguy said: Nobody is going to comment that Williams referred to Raiders as "that silly little march?" I mean, it's not heretical or anything and he certainly didn't kill my childhood. But it was an interesting remark. Actually looking at it from a pure musical side, it is a silly little march. Question rather is, why he, besides all his great music, keeps performing it at each and every of his concerts. Martinland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Actually looking at it from a pure musical side, it is a silly little march. Question rather is, why he, besides all his great music, keeps performing it at each and every of his concerts. Those silly little concerts, you mean. Brando, Martinland and Tallguy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,368 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 NO! I mean those HUGE CONCERTS with those GRAND ORCHESTRAS in those GIGANTIC CITIES PLAYING THIS silly little march. Tallguy, Jurassic Shark and Martinland 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 If These Walls Could Sing - DOC NYC Cerebral Cortex and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 That's a great candidate for the "caption" thread. (that Ringo has also scored stuff himself is an extra bonus). BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Note the caption says this photo was taken at Abbey Road. I assumed John's segments were filmed in LA? Is that backdrop identifiable as somewhere at Abbey Road? Hard to believe JW visited London just to record an interview, unless it was done en route to/from one of his Europe concerts. Brando, WilliamsStarShip2282 and BB-8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 16 hours ago, crumbs said: Note the caption says this photo was taken at Abbey Road. I assumed John's segments were filmed in LA? Is that backdrop identifiable as somewhere at Abbey Road? Hard to believe JW visited London just to record an interview, unless it was done en route to/from one of his Europe concerts. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 But this explicitly refers to an interview at Abbey Road Studios. So JW has already been back in London since 2018? John Williams, an American composer, conductor and pianist during an interview at Abbey Road Studios. (credit: Mary McCartney) If These Walls Could Sing Review - Mary McCartney Celebrates Her Childhood in this Definitive Look at Abbey Road Studios — Austin B Media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 That's a fantastic photo. And how totally fascinating if JW did indeed go back to Abbey Road just for an interview. When did he sneak that in?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 48 minutes ago, crumbs said: That's a fantastic photo. And how totally fascinating if JW did indeed go back to Abbey Road just for an interview. When did he sneak that in?! Maybe that time he canceled his LSO concert was to do this instead. "Hey, John, you will get to hang out with Ringo if you do this instead of the concert. Don't worry, we'll tell them the dog ate your scores...or maybe that you got sick or something." Martinland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The weird thing is Ringo lives in LA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Maybe Ringo rang him up in LA: "Johnny-Baby, you're a rich man. Why don't we come together, the two of us, flying - I need you to help me count how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall. With a little help from my friends, we can come in through the bathroom window." And Williams replied: "I dig it." BB-8 and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 27/11/2023 at 2:07 PM, crumbs said: And how totally fascinating if JW did indeed go back to Abbey Road just for an interview. When did he sneak that in?! This may have happened on the way to or fro Vienna II, March 2022? Do we know exactly where he was interviewed by Classic FM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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