Steven Spielberg is Making a John Williams Documentary

[enderdrag64 624]

What did Bouzereau do again? Other than fucking up the Concord box?

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

The E.T. 20th anniversary soundtrack, the first expanded CE3K soundtrack, and the Decca Jaws soundtrack release?

[JohnnyD 1,220]

26 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

I don’t understand. Why?

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Laurent Bouzereau is many things. One thing he is not is Steven Spielberg. 

[Brando 1,848]

Yeah, what’s the deal with Laurent?

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

You're not disappointed that one of the greatest directors of all time won't direct this movie?

[Edmilson 7,367]

I want to know why this Laurent guy is such a bad option. What did he do? I mean, besides not being Spielberg 

[Richard Penna 3,662]

So the film could be good but the soundtrack will be edited all wrong and somehow at the wrong speed.

 

3 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I want to know why this Laurent guy is such a bad option. What did he do? I mean, besides not being Spielberg 

 

He produced the expanded Indy soundtracks box and... it has many, many problems  

[Thor 7,451]

10 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I want to know why this Laurent guy is such a bad option. What did he do? I mean, besides not being Spielberg 

 

I don't care one way or the other about the soundtrack producing bit. For me, it's rather the superficial treatment in the various Williams-related featurettes.

[Holko 9,491]

1 hour ago, Gibster said:

that is being directed by Laurent Bouzereau

oh no

[Tom 4,630]

5 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

I don't care one way or the other about the soundtrack producing bit. For me, it's rather the superficial treatment in the various Williams-related featurettes.

Yes, but this will a superficial treatment with a much greater length.  

[Holko 9,491]

All over many bonus features, he makes by far the most generic overedited talking head ones, broken down needlessly into 10 minute separate featurettes all with a pointless 2 minute intro and 1 minute credits, they usually feel like some promo for a proper bigger docu with breathing room and depth that just doesn't exist.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

He's a leech attaching his mediocrity to anything Spielberg.

 

5 minutes ago, Tom said:

Yes, but this will a superficial treatment with a much greater length.  

 

John Williams: Bigger, Longer, Uncut 

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Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I don't know that Spielberg has ever laid eyes on any of the behind-the-scenes docs and featurettes Bouzereau has produced "for him" in the past. But this will presumably be something that Spielberg is more hand on with.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Just now, SpaceCoyote said:

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I don't know that Spielberg has ever laid eyes on any of the behind-the-scenes docs and featurettes Bouzereau has produced "for him" in the past. But this will presumably be something that Spielberg is more hand on with.

 

If this is best silver lining you can find..... well it's something I guess.

[Brando 1,848]

30 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

He produced the expanded Indy soundtracks box and... it has many, many problems  

Ohhhhhhhh I didn’t know he was tied to it.

[Ricard 2,242]

Bouzereau also directed the 22-minute documentary included in the Williams/Spielberg collaboration box set:

https://www.cmajor-entertainment.com/movie/john-williams-steven-spielberg-the-adventure-continues-9583/

[mrbellamy 6,270]

The Ron Howard/Brian Grazer connection also tells me it'll probably be fairly safe 

 

Did anybody ever see Five Came Back? Seems like that got a lot of acclaim but that was also much longer....

 

But oh well. I'm officially expecting no masterpiece but depending on what previously unseen footage is in it, it could still be a treasure trove as a JWFan. I'll just say again

 

6 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

I'd still love a basic 2 hour doc mostly about the greatest hits with some segments on his personal life and non-film career, a lot of stories we've heard and some we haven't, lots of clips of him working. Maybe some "day in the life" stuff of him playing piano at home, or any home video clips his family would share. I'd watch it a million times. 

 

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7 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

Did anybody ever see Five Came Back? Seems like that got a lot of acclaim but that was also much longer....

I forgot he did that! It was really well done. There was certainly a greater amount of craft shown than in anything else I've seen from him.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

It will be a dozen of Bozer's best JW related behind the scenes documentaries stitched together. 

[mrbellamy 6,270]

Did he do the AFI featurettes? I feel like this is pretty much the kind of thing I'm expecting now. 

 

 

Obviously not unwatchable, the kind of thing that's fine for what it is but I always feel the lack of elaboration whenever I see feature documentaries built around this kind of filmmaking. 

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Oh great Ron Howard's involved?  Does that mean it's gonna have ironic narration like Arrested Development?? 

[mrbellamy 6,270]

That might be good, actually.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Steven Spielberg: Yeah I got a better composer who could do this instead 

Narrator: He didn't 

 

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JW: So I played Steven the Jaws theme on piano with two fingers, and went *ba dum, ba dum*

 

Spielberg: I thought he was kidding!

 

Narrator: He wasn't 

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Steven: I could have done more with this documentary, for example I could have directed it.

 

Narrator: He didn't. 

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JW: And so you know, when Anne-Sophie asked me to write something for her, I really thought that she would be a woman that I could say no to. 

 

Narrator: She wasn't 

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JW: “So when scoring Attack Of The Clones, I realized that Star Wars never had a love theme before. And now, Across The Stars is the first love theme to appear in the Star Wars Universe.

 

Narrator: “It wasn't.”

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JW: I'm retiring from film scoring. 

 

Narrator: He isn't. 

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JW: “After he had shown me the first cut of Schindler’s List, I said to Steven, 'You need a better composer than I am for this film.”

 

Narrator: “He didn’t.”

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2 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

The Ron Howard/Brian Grazer connection also tells me it'll probably be fairly safe 

Music by John Powell?

[mrbellamy 6,270]

I wouldn't hate it

 

Looks like Thomas Newman did the theme music for Five Came Back hmmm

[Disco Stu 15,495]

26 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

Looks like Thomas Newman did the theme music for Five Came Back hmmm

And it’s a good theme!

 

But obviously for a JW doc they’ll use JW music

[mrbellamy 6,270]

Okay but hear me out, what about Lorne Balfe?

[Damien F 1,742]

JW: "When producing the albums, I only micro edit out the most boring and least interesting parts of a cue".

 

Narrator: "He doesn't".

[Amer 2,077]

Recently,there was a superb Spielberg documentary on HBO ( I think) Who made that?

 

 

 

[mrbellamy 6,270]

Susan Lacy

 

But I didn't think that doc was any different from what Bouzerau will probably do? I remember one really great segment on the movie brats with a lot of home video footage of him hanging out with Lucas, Scorsese, DePalma, that was lovely. And a couple surprising comments from Spielberg, especially his regrets about The Color Purple. But it also ignored anything that wasn't universally popular and really said nothing new for those of us who have followed his career, or watched the A&E Biography or "Spielberg on Spielberg" specials, and it mostly featured a lot of interviews with people saying Spielberg's really awesome and nice! I also remember it jumping all around his career in kind of random ways. 

 

But this is what I'm saying lol, if this is pretty much like that it'll still be a fun watch. Just not like the amazing BBC doc of him working on Empire, or like Scorsese's documentaries. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

1 hour ago, mrbellamy said:

A&E Biography or "Spielberg on Spielberg"

 

What are these?

[mrbellamy 6,270]

Biography was a series of documentaries on the A&E Channel and they did a 90 minute one on Spielberg, it was the first I ever watched and I remember it airing all the time on cable here in the US, it was how I became a Spielberg "expert" as a kid lol. It was similar to the HBO doc in style and the way it told the story of his career ("Jaws and Close Encounters, WOW! 1941, OH NO!") but of course shorter. 

 

"Spielberg on Spielberg" was also a 90 minute TCM Special directed by the critic Richard Schickel that consisted only of Spielberg talking about his movies. There is a YouTube playlist but the second part is missing. 

 

 

[Andy 4,070]

While Bouzerau doesn’t elicit an outright loathing from me, I can appreciate that his docs are surface level and lack artistry associated with a real deep dive. 
 

But honestly, I never expected that.  Even if it were under Spielberg. This isn’t intended for Us. It’s for the masses and casuals. 
 

I can say I’ve always appreciated Bouzerau docs often being the first to show outtakes or deleted material.  His E.T. Book is decent.   I guess I’m more looking forward to his access to rarities than his style.  But really anyone could provide that if given the access to footage. 
 

Would I prefer to hear how Williams replaced Legrand on Man Who Loved Cat Dancing’s troubled production instead of the Schindler anecdote?  You bet.  But there exists no world in any multiverse where that would happen. 
 

I was cautiously optimistic even with Spielberg’s vague and cagey response to the interviewer.  It’s easy to hope for more, considering Morricone’s doc, but (unpopular opinion) Spielberg is a little weird when it comes to choices and priorities.  I can’t help but be a little resentful that he doesn’t take the reins and do it right.  He owes a lot of his career to Williams. 

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3 minutes ago, Andy said:

I can’t help but be a little resentful that he doesn’t take the reins and do it right.  He owes a lot of his career to Williams. 

Spielberg can always pull a POLTERGEIST…

[Andy 4,070]

29 minutes ago, thx99 said:

Spielberg can always pull a POLTERGEIST…

 

Narrator: “He wouldn’t.”

[Damien F 1,742]

23 hours ago, enderdrag64 said:

What did Bouzereau do again? Other than fucking up the Concord box?

 

It looks like we'll need to do pitch corrections on the documentary when it is released! 

[thx99 1,740]

50 minutes ago, Damien F said:

 

It looks like we'll need to do pitch corrections on the documentary when it is released! 

 

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, thx99 said:

 

 

all_in_fun.mov 2.94 MB · 1 download  

 

 

Haha, Spielberg sounds like Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.

[mrbellamy 6,270]

Why does pitch-corrected John Williams sound like @BLUMENKOHL?

 

[mahler3 478]

I think there’s much unfair criticism for Laurent B here. Unlike some of his contemporaries when he was commissioned to do the bonus material content for Laserdisc and the early days of DVDs there was always a film music focus. It’s clearly a passion, not just a gig.

 

The original Jaws and 1941 documentaries were feature length and very in depth.

 

LB has also done superb docs on Hitchcock which accompany all Universal Studios films.

 

Yes the soundtrack releases had flaws, but even the great Shawn Murphy made errors with ones he was involved in.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Don't you come here with reason.

[GerateWohl 4,319]

The documentry should be narrated by Hans Zimmer.

I don't particularly like his music. But I like it, when he talks about John Williams.

And he really knows what he is talking about, and also from the role he plays in the industry as on of THE members of the next generation of film composers, he might have something to say on the topic. 

[Bespin 8,472]

1 hour ago, GerateWohl said:

The documentry should be narrated by Hans Zimmer.