Edmilson 8,904 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 15 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Anyone know where this might be from? Definitely something from the 80's. Hide contents Ewok Celebration choir session? 80s? So maybe the evil choir from Temple of Doom? Or Suo Gan from Empire of the Sun? BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,933 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 मुझे पता है, लेकिन वे सब मर चुके हैं! मुझे पता है, लेकिन वे सब मर चुके हैं! मुझे पता है, लेकिन वे सब मर चुके हैं! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,663 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, Tom Guernsey said: They should have slipped in a clip of Richard Attenborough and pretended it was a JW interview clip. See if anyone noticed. Interviewer: “what kinda budget did you have for this score?” JW: “spared no expense”. Interviewer: “…and what’s your favourite fish?” JW: “Chilean sea bass I believe.” Or this guy: BB-8 and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,361 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 2 hours ago, Edmilson said: 80s? So maybe the evil choir from Temple of Doom? Or Suo Gan from Empire of the Sun? "Suo Gan" wasn't recorded by Williams. The performance was done ahead of principal photography, with the Ambrosian Junior Singers conducted by John McCarthy, who also arranged the old Welsh song. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,128 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 17 hours ago, Amer said: I was just dreading they would do the Schindlers List annecdote "I know, but ..They are all Dead" in the Trailer.. Fixed! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,026 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, Loert said: Or this guy: Not a bad video actually. Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,337 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, Miguel Andrade said: "Suo Gan" wasn't recorded by Williams. The performance was done ahead of principal photography, with the Ambrosian Junior Singers conducted by John McCarthy, who also arranged the old Welsh song. But could it be "Exultate Justi", or was that also done ahead of principal photography? I don't know, the choir on that sounds bigger than what's in the picture. I think maybe "Temple of Doom" is more likely. However, it appears to be an all-black choir...don't know if that makes a difference as to what it should be? Some non-film work, perhaps? Anyways, we'll know in due time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,433 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Trailer says the doc will be streaming Nov 1 but makes no mention of a limited theatrical release. I hope they didn't decide to back out of that plan. EDIT: Looks like the limited release is still happening, according to Disney, if you live in or near NYC, Los Angeles, or London. Tickets go on sale Oct. 24 via Fandango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,408 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 2 hours ago, Thor said: But could it be "Exultate Justi", or was that also done ahead of principal photography? I don't know, the choir on that sounds bigger than what's in the picture. I think maybe "Temple of Doom" is more likely. However, it appears to be an all-black choir...don't know if that makes a difference as to what it should be? Some non-film work, perhaps? Anyways, we'll know in due time. Watch it actually be "America, the dream goes on" Andy and Marian Schedenig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Once 681 Posted October 2 Popular Post Share Posted October 2 13 hours ago, TownerFan said: It's very hard to make something that can fully satisfy both the hard-core fan and a general audience who might know John Williams just for the most famous themes and scores. But I think there is a middle ground where something pleasing for both fans and "casual" viewers can be done and hopefully this is where the documentary will land. The hagiography-styled portrait is inevitable, but these types of shows are never intended to be an exposé in any way or form, but more as a form of tribute or celebrations. Williams certainly lived a rich, charmed life, but it's always been mostly within the borders of a relatively obscure profession and as far away as possible from Hollywood gossip. However, the trailer seems to point that at least part of his personal side (which he always carefully kept away from the spotlight) will be explored. As I was texting to a friend yesterday, I think all John Williams fans dreamed of a documentary film and each one of us already have in our minds what the perfect version of it should be so it's inevitable that there will be something that won't live up to our (understandably high) expectations. But I guess this project is also done to preserve a memory for posterity so that if anyone living a hundred years from now will want to explore who John Williams was, they will have this handy piece available as an overall look at his career. That's why I think we should have a half-glass-full attitude towards the operation, because it's never been a given that this would've happened. At least let's wait until the thing is out, watch it and only then discuss about its merits or lack thereof. I don't think this was meant as a direct reply to my comment, but for what it's worth I completely agree with just about everything you said and I wasn't trying to set any expectations at all. In fact, I've never expected this documentary to be anything in particular - and certainly not an exposé (I wouldn't even be interested in that). I'm just glad it exists. I do however think it would be lovely if this documentary could make casual fans see beyond the franchise and Spielberg scores, that's all. I'm not expecting it to, but it would be nice. Less than a month now! Wish I could see it in the cinema like I did with Ennio. BB-8, Jurassic Shark, TownerFan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,881 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Steven Spielberg: It’s gonna be great. George Lucas: It’s gonna be great. Ron Howard: It’s gonna be great. Chris Columbus: It’s gonna be great. Frank Marshall: It’s gonna be great. J.J. Abrams: It’s gonna be great. James Mangold: It’s gonna be great. Lawrence Kasdan: It’s gonna be great. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,753 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 43 minutes ago, Davis said: Steven Spielberg: It’s gonna be great. George Lucas: It’s gonna be great. Ron Howard: It’s gonna be great. Chris Columbus: It’s gonna be great. Frank Marshall: It’s gonna be great. J.J. Abrams: It’s gonna be great. James Mangold: It’s gonna be great. Lawrence Kasdan: It’s gonna be great. Hans Zimmer: Yeah, sure, it’s gonna be great... again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 3,379 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 4 hours ago, Bespin said: Hans Zimmer He's in the doc, right? I wonder if there'll be hissing and booing at the screenings when he appears. Davis and BB-8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post igger6 950 Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 Credit where it's due to Disney for mixing and matching music from various studio projects and not just larding the trailer with Star Wars, Indy, and BFG music. I wonder how the licensing worked for that? crumbs, enderdrag64 and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 5,283 Posted October 3 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 3 On 02/10/2024 at 1:32 PM, Marian Schedenig said: Not a bad video actually. I actually watched the whole video. I have all of those symptoms. Brando, BB-8 and Loert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 5,130 Posted October 4 Popular Post Share Posted October 4 4 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I actually watched the whole video. I have all of those symptoms. I am not sure that those two sentences can be simultaneously true. Manakin Skywalker, Jurassic Shark and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,283 Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 14 hours ago, Tom said: I am not sure that those two sentences can be simultaneously true. (This is true) I watched it in small sections over the day and was browsing other sites and listening to music while doing so. Brando and Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,587 Posted October 8 Popular Post Share Posted October 8 On 02/10/2024 at 5:33 AM, BB-8 said: They could have reused this: Can't forget that awful snakeoil salesman critic who said the trailer music is John Williams' score. Not Mr. Big, Brando and enderdrag64 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sunshine Reger 3,603 Posted October 8 Popular Post Share Posted October 8 They should have used the Anthony Daniels march Not Mr. Big, Brando and Manakin Skywalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,156 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 https://variety.com/2024/artisans/news/john-williams-documentary-debut-afi-fest-1236184090/ Can’t figure out how to embed the article but there’s a little read by Jon Burlingame before the AFI premiere of the documentary. Quote But for the most part the footage is new. 🙌🙌 Martinland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 873 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 17 minutes ago, Brando said: Quote But for the most part the footage is new. Sounds like this is referring to newly shot footage rather than previously unseen archive footage Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,391 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 17 minutes ago, Brando said: Can’t figure out how to embed the article Embed the article? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 5,130 Posted October 21 Popular Post Share Posted October 21 Key part of article: Piano Concerto done and will be premiered in Tanglewood next year. Muad'Dib, Davis, artguy360 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 9,026 Posted October 21 Popular Post Share Posted October 21 Yes, two key points in the article are: Quote Bouzereau had access to Spielberg’s own Super 8 movies of the ’70s and ’80s recording sessions and also drew on a handful of existing films, including a 1980 BBC documentary on “The Empire Strikes Back,” the 2016 AFI Life Achievement Award ceremony and a 2023 American Cinematheque conversation between Spielberg and Williams. Quote Williams, now 92, has just finished a piano concerto which pianist Emanuel Ax will debut next year at Tanglewood. BB-8, Tom, Brando and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 969 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 On 25/08/2024 at 6:47 PM, pete said: Quote I am disappointed that his family didn't give interviews Has that been confirmed? The list of interviewees I saw above just said "include" which means it's not complete I knew it! Quote Bouzereau shot new interviews with Williams, Spielberg, Lucas and nearly 30 other directors, producers, composers, musicians, family members and more to round out his portrait... And I was really excited to read Williams discusses Lost in Space! Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,128 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 The Broughton or Lennertz score? 🤔 pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,156 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 4 hours ago, Jay said: Embed the article? What? As in it showing up with a thumbnail and not a link, like Tweets. If it can’t do that then I didn’t know, it would just look better than the whole link being posted. Edit: nvm, the link was shortened when I just looked at it. Earlier when I posted it the link was much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,904 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: The Broughton or Lennertz score? 🤔 The Broughton for sure. JW probably isn't aware that there was a new Lost in Space for Netflix (and in fact he may not even know what a "Netflix" is either...) Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 681 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Quote The next year, when Williams was offered a choice between working on the prestigious, star-studded World War II epic A Bridge Too Far or a peculiar-seeming space adventure called Star Wars, it was Spielberg who talked him into taking a chance on Lucas. Maybe it's just me, but this is the first time I've heard Williams was offered A Bridge Too Far. Attenborough would've been an interesting collaborator - his movies usually let their scores breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 969 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, Once said: Maybe it's just me, but this is the first time I've heard Williams was offered A Bridge Too Far. I'm certain this is being reported for the first time. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,237 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 here is another article from Variety! [Courtesy @Jay who actually posted on FSM] https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/music-by-john-williams P.S. I just noticed the other thread on it. here at JWFAN.NET. Sandor and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 5,130 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Any of us (very lucky) locals attending today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafieBurgos 3 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Hi, my name is Rafie. Happy to be here. I am a huge John Willams fan forever and he is still one of my absolute favorite composers to this day. For those going to the premiere of Music By John Williams at TCL Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles, have a great time and hope you enjoy it. Can't wait to see this on Disney+ next Friday, November 1st. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brando 2,156 Posted October 23 Popular Post Share Posted October 23 BB-8, Muad'Dib, Once and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 5,130 Posted October 23 Popular Post Share Posted October 23 Looks like a picturesque LA day. Brando, Martinland and RafieBurgos 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,744 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 First reviews confirm a lot of what I've expected, positive but not quite glowing. Hollywood Reporter: "Richly satisfying if not exactly revelatory" Quote Music by John Williams‘ first hour, its most effective, is chronological. Making savvy use of Williams’ nostalgia-saturated score from The Fabelmans, Spielberg’s most autobiographical feature, Bouzereau traces a course through Williams’ music-driven childhood to his Hollywood introduction as a jazz pianist, session musician, orchestrator and then composer. None of it is exactly revelatory, but it’s always helpful to note that Williams has had a journey that started with Gilligan’s Island and somehow stretched all the way to Schindler’s List. The memory-driven reflections on Williams’ first collaborations with Spielberg, which brought him to work with Lucas, and the magical year in which Williams composed scores for Star Wars, Close Encounters and Black Sunday are methodical. But owing to the warmth of the storytelling and, of course, countless musical snippets, they never feel dry. Would Steven Spielberg be this utterly comfortable hanging out with a director who hadn’t made an uncountable number of behind-the-scenes features with him over the years? Impossible to know for sure, but the best parts here show Williams and Spielberg literally just standing around chatting about their collaborations. Those sequences, as well as footage from an apparently exhaustive filmed retrospective panel with Spielberg and Williams, make a persuasive argument that this could have been an even simpler movie than Bouzereau’s already straightforward approach has made of it. Put Spielberg and Williams or Lucas and Williams in a room together, give them a snippet of music to discuss, take two steps back and let the magic flow. To Bouzereau’s credit, that’s a lot of what he does. If the first hour is more point-by-point analysis, the last 45 minutes are more nebulous celebration, and I’ll state a preference for the former. The Wrap: "There are worse ways to spend 104 minutes than people praising the legendary man behind the scores of Star Wars and Jaws" Quote That doesn’t make “Music by John Williams” a bad movie, but it does render it a somewhat superficial one as its primary mode seems to be a lovefest for scores you already appreciate. While I wish the film got more into the weeds of where Williams and his work exists in comparison to those who preceded and those who followed him, this is still the kind of inoffensive celebratory piece that will have you eager to revisit his most beloved scores while gaining a bit more insight into their creation. They do mention getting some clips from Spielberg's home movies, but it seems like the more prominent archival exclusives actually might be the footage from that Spielberg/Williams retrospective Q&A....unless it's referring to the TCM special from 2011, I'm hoping it'd be the one from a couple years ago at American Cinematheque where Williams walked back his retirement statements to Spielberg's surprise. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,866 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Yeah about what I expected. Not as superficial as his bonus feature documentaries, but hardly a detailed exploration of Williams' life and process either. Still, the description of the last hour matches what I was expecting for the whole doco, so at least the first hour is a meatier affair. Cindylover1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan95 75 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Doesn't look like JW was at the premiere Brando, Edmilson, RafieBurgos and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,337 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Quote That doesn’t make “Music by John Williams” a bad movie, but it does render it a somewhat superficial one as its primary mode seems to be a lovefest for scores you already appreciate. Yup. Exactly as I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,881 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 On 22/10/2024 at 3:59 AM, Edmilson said: The Broughton for sure. JW probably isn't aware that there was a new Lost in Space for Netflix (and in fact he may not even know what a "Netflix" is either...) JW: Yes, you can say I’m not a netflixian. *** On my part, I’m expecting nothing special and hope to be pleasantly surprised. So JW didn’t attend. But did Spielberg or Lucas? Because if either of them did, it could mean that they will all appear together at a later date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,593 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Still can't wait to watch this! I don't need more. mrbellamy and BB-8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,424 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 On 22/10/2024 at 4:50 AM, pete said: I'm certain this is being reported for the first time. It might be being reported for the first time, but it's also complete bollocks. Given Addison's World War II history (he fought at Arnhem, during Operation Market Garden, fer cryin' out loud), and his friendship with Attenborough, there was never any doubt that he would score A BRIDGE TOO FAR. Likewise, it was Spielberg's friendship with Lucas that got JW the STAR WARS gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,744 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Maybe @Maestro knows if it's true or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 10,424 Posted October 24 Popular Post Share Posted October 24 I would say that between us, JWfan knows most of the itty bitty tidbits about JW (except the one about better composers being dead. I must share that, one day). The chances of JWfan not knowing about this in 47 years, are about the same as the chances of anything coming from Mars. Jay, Brando, Edmilson and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,337 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 A connection on Facebook (I'm not going to post the name here, for privacy, but if he's a member here, feel free to speak up!) posted a video of the introduction by Ron Howard and Steven Spielberg prior to the premiere. An interesting tidbit that Howard related is that both he and Williams apparently worked on the 1962 musical THE MUSIC MAN. It's the first I've ever heard of any Williams involvement there, presumably it must be uncredited piano duties or arrangements. The score & songs were by Ray Heindorf and Meredith Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,128 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It might be being reported for the first time, but it's also complete bollocks. It's a claim too far. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 5,130 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Based on the reviews above, it sounds like there might be more music from The Fabelmans in this than the actual movie. Sort of a quasi-Amadeus moment where Williams was actually scoring his own life the whole time. LB Makes Stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geom_00 68 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Article from Deadline on the Documentary. https://deadline.com/2024/10/music-by-john-williams-review-legendary-film-composer-may-be-the-goat-compelling-docu-fi-fest-1236156933/ Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,156 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 https://www.irishnews.com/entertainment/ron-howard-says-steven-spielberg-will-coerce-john-williams-to-score-another-film-3SN5FWVSURPYBE5A6MCPET6KSU/ Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar 80 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 hours ago, Thor said: A connection on Facebook (I'm not going to post the name here, for privacy, but if he's a member here, feel free to speak up!) posted a video of the introduction by Ron Howard and Steven Spielberg prior to the premiere. An interesting tidbit that Howard related is that both he and Williams apparently worked on the 1962 musical THE MUSIC MAN. It's the first I've ever heard of any Williams involvement there, presumably it must be uncredited piano duties or arrangements. The score & songs were by Ray Heindorf and Meredith Wilson. Here is the clip! https://x.com/AFIFEST/status/1849364607686582310 Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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