Disco Stu 15,475 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I guess they wanted it to be more like what lightsaber fights evolved into decades later, and to incorporate later canon. I'm gonna be honest, I hate everything about it Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 6,993 Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 It's clear the old trilogy should be rebooted. (Bespin running out of this thread quickly) Disco Stu, Brando and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luke Skywalker 1,505 Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 But his is old! It predates the obi wan series. Manakin Skywalker, Giftheck and JTWfan77 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTWfan77 1,394 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Now if they could redo/fix that silly Vader/Obi duel from the equally silly Obi-Wan series, that would be something. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,693 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 10 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: But his is old! It predates the obi wan series. And Mandalorian, Rise of Skywalker. It might have been posted in the Star Wars general thread at the time. The YouTube comments always make me beg for death but def the ones on that video. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,475 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Heh, I didn't notice how old the video was. It showed up in my recs and I was overtaken by the age-old instinct, "Ugh, this smells awful.... here, smell this" Sorry! Manakin Skywalker and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,693 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 It's a good instinct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 5,860 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I'm gonna be honest, I hate everything about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 4,925 Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 And I love everything about it. It finally looks like a real fight between not only two powerful Force-practitioners but also two men with a bitter story of love and hate that spans decades. Not two old geezers poking each other with glowing sticks. Of course, since almost everyone here grew up with the original version, people here will be queueing to downvote the video! Chen G., StarFox and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A Farewell to Kings 3,786 Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, Edmilson said: And I love everything about it. It finally looks like a real fight between not only two powerful Force-practitioners but also two men with a bitter story of love and hate that spans decades. Not two old geezers poking each other with glowing sticks. Of course, since almost everyone here grew up with the original version, people here will be queueing to downvote the video! It's the video equivalent of RCP/Trailer/EPIC!!!!!11!1!1!! Music. Somewhat fun, but low substance fluff. Andy, Disco Stu, ThePenitentMan1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,475 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 I miss when the sound of the laser swords was emphasized in that really physical, guttural way. It was such a key part of why they (the swords themselves) captured the imagination. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4,925 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, Clockwork Angel said: Somewhat fun, but low substance fluff. How does the original fight has "more substance" than this? It's just a fight scene made with whatever resources were available in the 70s. There is nothing deeper to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 3,867 Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 I've seen this video posted literally hundreds of times over the last several years, and I cringe every time. Looks like some generic action fighting from a crappy fan film. Yavar Moradi, Brando and ThePenitentMan1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3,786 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, Edmilson said: It's just a fight scene made with whatever resources were available in the 70s. There is nothing deeper to that. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,464 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I also thought the new fight was well done ever since the first time I saw it three years ago. I wouldn’t mind Disney slipping this into the SE’s. But pleeeeeeease give us the OG as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,639 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 That was exciting and had some very nice ideas albeit not always well executed but as a storyboard, that was good though left off some vintage scenes - the important humor, etc. I'm also not a fan of using music from decades later. Feels too needledrop for me. They should also do some AI upscaling too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 2,526 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I miss when the sound of the laser swords was emphasized in that really physical, guttural way. It was such a key part of why they (the swords themselves) captured the imagination. I miss Ben Burtt. I know he’s unpopular here, but it’s been a looooong time since Star Wars tickled my ears with sound design that made me take note. The sabers in the first film looked SO alive and dangerous, what with the imperfect rotoscoping, and the reflective coating filling the air with a glowing dust when they’d clash. GerateWohl and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 1,687 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, Andy said: I miss Ben Burtt. I know he’s unpopular here, but it’s been a looooong time since Star Wars tickled my ears with sound design that made me take note. The sabers in the first film looked SO alive and dangerous, what with the imperfect rotoscoping, and the reflective coating filling the air with a glowing dust when they’d clash. Ben Burtt's contribution to the films was huge. He got truly creative and was allowed to let the results shine. A lot like Williams. By comparison, SW sound design in the Disney era is functional, sensible, unobtrusive. A lot like a lot of modern film music. I'll also mostly agree on the lightsabers. There are some cruddy bits, but I'd also say the very first saber shot features the best-looking saber of the Lucas era, jumpy ignition aside. ESB never quite reaches that height but it's more consistently excellent with its saber effects. ROTJ has some issues. TPM—mostly not bad. AOTC and ROTS suck. Then the ST turned it around with those awesome light-up props. (If only Burtt had been providing their sound.) Anyway, as to the topic at hand … yeah, I remember when that video came out. It's an interesting experiment made by talented fans. It would be godawful in the actual film, particularly if you were watching the series for the first time in release order (as everyone should). Andy and ThePenitentMan1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3,786 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Don't forget the sabers differ version to version of the OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 1,687 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 54 minutes ago, Clockwork Angel said: Don't forget the sabers differ version to version of the OT Very true. And what a mixed bag those differences are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 5,860 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just rewatched this now for the first time since I saw it a few years ago and it’s absolutely dreadful Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,744 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 11 hours ago, Edmilson said: Of course, since almost everyone here grew up with the original version, people here will be queueing to downvote the video! So you grew up with the Youtube video? You're younger than I thought! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 2,526 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Remember in ROTS when they decided to make the tips of the swords more pointy? That was weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 1,687 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Andy said: Remember in ROTS when they decided to make the tips of the swords more pointy? That was weird. Yes it was. And if I remember correctly, they also made the contact flashes persist as long as two sabers were touching. Awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,210 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 As much as I like to clown on this video, it's still better than the duels from Kenobi GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 2,822 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 15 hours ago, Andy said: The sabers in the first film looked SO alive and dangerous, what with the imperfect rotoscoping, and the reflective coating filling the air with a glowing dust when they’d clash. In the original original version of this scene the lightsaber light disapeared from time to time and you saw Obi-Wan just fighting with a wooden stick. It remained that way even when the first special edition came out. They fixed it later in some DVD release. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,744 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I can't remember that. Evidence, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post enderdrag64 373 Posted January 24 Popular Post Share Posted January 24 32 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: In the original original version of this scene the lightsaber light disapeared from time to time and you saw Obi-Wan just fighting with a wooden stick. It remained that way even when the first special edition came out. They fixed it later in some DVD release. 26 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I can't remember that. Evidence, please. Even the Special Editions didn't correct in some places; check out 0:51 and 1:08 here: Manakin Skywalker, Jurassic Shark and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,744 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 It's just low on battery. GerateWohl and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 5,860 Posted January 24 Popular Post Share Posted January 24 See also Vader’s saber at 2:51! GerateWohl, Manakin Skywalker and enderdrag64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 2,822 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 It can happen to old men. Andy and MrJosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,744 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, enderdrag64 said: In the original original version of this scene the lightsaber light disapeared from time to time and you saw Obi-Wan just fighting with a wooden stick. They also deleted the dialogue where Obi-Wan is saying I'll beat you with a stick! MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 2,526 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I always noticed it. The way Guinness was twirling it gave the impression it was malfunctioning. That’s what I thought when I was young. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 187 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I have mixed feelings about this video, but I can say that the original film’s fight is one of a few things about the original film I essentially ignore due to being... kind of bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,744 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Why did Obi-Wan put down his lightsaber now again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePenitentMan1 268 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 I wish they'd remake this as a fight sequence with better choreography than the original, but actually make it feel like something George would've shot in 1976. I hate every lens flare, modern camera trick, and usage of RotS music in this video. enderdrag64, Stark, Tallguy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 2,526 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I’m 50. When I saw Star Wars, this was my favorite scene and it rocked my world. Context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 1,821 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 23/01/2023 at 3:16 PM, Edmilson said: And I love everything about it. It finally looks like a real fight between not only two powerful Force-practitioners but also two men with a bitter story of love and hate that spans decades. Not two old geezers poking each other with glowing sticks. Of course, since almost everyone here grew up with the original version, people here will be queueing to downvote the video! Well, the job's not done. Now they need to make the rest of the film's camera work look like this. A more impressive job would have been to make the fight look more dynamic (if that's what you want to do) but still look like Star Wars. This fails at that goal in every regard. ThePenitentMan1 and Datameister 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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