Popular Post enderdrag64 913 Posted February 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2023 Here's a collection of spreadsheets I've been working on over the last few months. Not all of these are complete yet, and I plan on making more but I figured I might as well share them. I was really disappointed that there seemed to be no proper breakdown of all the prequel cues across the various videogames on the internet, only snippets of information in the two Prequel Music Resource threads on here (which are also insane long to dig through), plus some excellent-for-the-time but now outdated editing guides by @deleted account and @Trent B. There's also of course the fantastic sheet accurate score edits by @Manakin Skywalkerbut from everything I've read I don't believe there are accompanying spreadsheets for them. As a result of not finding what I was looking for I decided to make them myself: These first four are breakdowns of the complete scores similar to @Jay's spreadsheets (sidenote: I borrowed your formatting from your ROTJ spreadsheet, hopefully you don't mind I did credit you) but with columns for all of the videogame files (at least the ones I've analyzed so far): The Empire Strikes Back (link) The Phantom Menace (link) Attack of the Clones: (link) Revenge of the Sith: (link) The Force Awakens (link) The rest of these are breakdowns of every file for each of the videogames that I've gotten to: TPM Game (link) Ep I Racer: (link) Ep I Insider's Guide: (link) Ep I Jedi Power Battles: (link) Star Wars Galaxies: (link) Star Wars Battlefront II: (link) I also made a fork of cheetordude's SWTOR Music Index (from this reddit post) where I've made some of the information more accurate (filled in cues that weren't identified, corrected inexact titles, corrected entries that listed one cue that were actually an edit of multiple, things like that). This is still very much a work in progress (link) One last thing I made a complete breakdown of the TPM Ultimate Edition. I decided I wasn't going to deal with the tracks bleeding into each other bullshit so I based all of my timestamps off of the combined tracks instead of the individual ones like they're presented on the disc. As a result my spreadsheet accounts for 24 combined tracks as opposed to 68 separate ones (link) I'm going to try to keep this thread updated as I make new spreadsheets/major updates Manakin Skywalker, Jay, ragoz350 and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,764 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Wow, this is very cool! I've been waiting for someone to aggregate all the video game music info at some point, and you've finally done it! Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 486 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Finally! I've been waiting for someone to do spreadsheets for the remaining Star Wars scores just like Jay's excellent ones for Star Wars & Return of the Jedi, great job! We're just missing The Empire Strikes Back & The Last Jedi now. The only thing I have to add is I think it would be a good idea to add separate pages that just include the official releases, as all of the games information could be a bit much for those only interested in the official releases. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 913 Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, CGCJ said: Finally! I've been waiting for someone to do spreadsheets for the remaining Star Wars scores just like Jay's excellent ones for Star Wars & Return of the Jedi, great job! We're just missing The Empire Strikes Back & The Last Jedi now. Oh I actually have an ESB one too! I guess I forgot to link to it let me add it to the index. Like the others this one is not 100% complete yet I still want to add notes about the different mixes (Tomlinson/Neal/Risner) and also the entries for Finale and End Credits are not accurate yet (as in I didn't properly separate 12m3 Finale from its alternate or 12m4 End Credits from its insert) 36 minutes ago, CGCJ said: The only thing I have to add is I think it would be a good idea to add separate pages that just include the official releases, as all of the games information could be a bit much for those only interested in the official releases. This is a good idea, when I have time later today I'll do this CGCJ and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,269 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Interesting, so for RotS, it looks like Padme's Funeral is the only major, story-critical cue that never leaked in video games and wasn't on the album. I can only theorise that JW wanted to end the album on a happy note, i.e. birth of the twins instead of the rather dark bits of the funeral and Vader's creation. But if so, put that cue somewhere else on the album... the rest of the OST is chronological death as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 217 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 It would amazing if the early unrecorded versions of cues from ANH were somehow tracked down and recorded anew. I guess this will never happen though. Do the full scores exist somewhere? The Princess Theme 2-01 Princess Leia's Theme 4:28 1-14 Princess Leia's Theme 4:23 03 Princess Leia's Theme 4:24 Early, never-recorded versions 2M2 The Little People Shorter opening, ends without the Imperial Motif 2M3 More Little People Shorter opening and other minor differences 3M1 The Princess Appears Sme additional passages and different orchestration 3M2 Lost R2 Ending features Imperial Motif 3M3 The Sand Speeder Shorter cue before scene was re-edited 3M4/4M1 The Sandman Attacks Shorter cue before scene was re-edited, Force Theme at end used woodwinds instead of horns 4M4 A Home Destroyed 5M1 A Hive of Villainy Unleaked, but leaked sheets indicate bars 25-42 were replaced by new bars 25-43 5M6 The Inner City Bars 24-35 have a "sinister" timpani and drum passage for the Vader and Chief Bast scene shown in the Holiday special 7M1 The Hatch Opens Harp and woodwind passage around 1:30 is slightly different 8M2 The Rescue First 5 bars replaced by 8M2 Rev New Introduction To The Rescue 8M3 The Water Snake 11M2 Approaching the Target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,365 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 03/02/2023 at 10:17 AM, Richard Penna said: Interesting, so for RotS, it looks like Padme's Funeral is the only major, story-critical cue that never leaked in video games and wasn't on the album. The first ~1/3 of it did, but yeah the rest is still missing. 9 hours ago, stravinsky said: It would amazing if the early unrecorded versions of cues from ANH were somehow tracked down and recorded anew. I guess this will never happen though. Do the full scores exist somewhere? The Princess Theme 2-01 Princess Leia's Theme 4:28 1-14 Princess Leia's Theme 4:23 03 Princess Leia's Theme 4:24 Early, never-recorded versions 2M2 The Little People Shorter opening, ends without the Imperial Motif 2M3 More Little People Shorter opening and other minor differences 3M1 The Princess Appears Sme additional passages and different orchestration 3M2 Lost R2 Ending features Imperial Motif 3M3 The Sand Speeder Shorter cue before scene was re-edited 3M4/4M1 The Sandman Attacks Shorter cue before scene was re-edited, Force Theme at end used woodwinds instead of horns 4M4 A Home Destroyed 5M1 A Hive of Villainy Unleaked, but leaked sheets indicate bars 25-42 were replaced by new bars 25-43 5M6 The Inner City Bars 24-35 have a "sinister" timpani and drum passage for the Vader and Chief Bast scene shown in the Holiday special 7M1 The Hatch Opens Harp and woodwind passage around 1:30 is slightly different 8M2 The Rescue First 5 bars replaced by 8M2 Rev New Introduction To The Rescue 8M3 The Water Snake 11M2 Approaching the Target They are in the score sheet leaks, yes. I guess now it's just up to someone to mock them up... enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Doo_liss 6,640 Posted February 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2023 Some of them have been. For instance the chief bast scene was mocked up by @BrotherSoundIIRC enderdrag64, Manakin Skywalker and BrotherSound 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,365 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 That's the only one I've seen in the wild so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 1,045 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Not sure how useful these will be for ya, but I downloaded editing guides which are pretty old for Eps II and III, also there's this google doc that also has a breakdown of TOR music files. Revenge Of The Sith Editing Guide.pdf Attack Of The Clones Editing Guide - Sheet1.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,295 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 13 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said: For instance the chief bast scene was mocked up by @BrotherSoundIIRC Here that is, which features the original 5M6 The Inner City: The only change in the revision was to remove the bars intended for this deleted scene. Manakin Skywalker and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 913 Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Groovygoth666 said: Not sure how useful these will be for ya, but I downloaded editing guides which are pretty old for Eps II and III, also there's this google doc that also has a breakdown of TOR music files. Revenge Of The Sith Editing Guide.pdf 288.58 kB · 0 downloads Attack Of The Clones Editing Guide - Sheet1.pdf 281.42 kB · 1 download Those pdfs look like they're just screenshots of the @Trent B spreadsheets: AOTC: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OcQ7NnMCeCbQua6RRLvmSguEqH_ePnW3oO9amBcs8TA/edit ROTS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12ClgTi-vdHl5Ml3i1tUYaMPhghWGTXEJhQT7iIN_klg/edit That Google Doc is cool though, I don't think I've seen that one before. Curious if it has any cues on it that weren't identified on the cheetordude one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 1,045 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 19 hours ago, enderdrag64 said: Those pdfs look like they're just screenshots of the @Trent B spreadsheets: AOTC: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OcQ7NnMCeCbQua6RRLvmSguEqH_ePnW3oO9amBcs8TA/edit ROTS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12ClgTi-vdHl5Ml3i1tUYaMPhghWGTXEJhQT7iIN_klg/edit That Google Doc is cool though, I don't think I've seen that one before. Curious if it has any cues on it that weren't identified on the cheetordude one Ah yes you're right, sorry those pdf's are screenshots that I took of Trent B's Google docs, couldn't tell you why though, had them for so long and didn't remember where they came from till you said. Same with the other Google doc unfortunately. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post enderdrag64 913 Posted January 12 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 12 Finally got around to making a TFA spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MvXA-RzLbR3XjQlLgUHPhbNkF14tojHCJ1rrVZxEMNQ/edit I forked this from @Jay's old one, deleted the simple breakdowns and redid the complete score breakdown from scratch. I also added @BrotherSound's FYC breakdown, as well as my own isolated score breakdown which is still a work in progress. MrJosh, Jay, KittBash and 5 others 1 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post enderdrag64 913 Posted January 27 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 27 Additionally here's a TLJ spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vpq5zjRXngkW0GfCsna4ZM4xVX7UNgRCTYprn5HePbM/edit This one is pretty much complete, I still haven't finished writing in the track names and lengths and stuff for the isolated on the complete score tab but otherwise all the info is in there. There are just a couple unknowns in the isolated score tab if anyone wants to help with those, but the rest is accurate. And here's a TROS one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X-HjbqyhRfq5f8w-2DNUYoGWtBf9CbmfTu_RrtWhdfM/edit For the TROS one there is currently only an FYC breakdown and the final cut breakdown, which were taken directly from information kindly provided by @BrotherSound. I do also plan on porting over the Nov 11th cut info from Jay's spreadsheet, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I opted not to include an OST breakdown yet as it's mostly just guesswork without the sheets and likely inaccurate. ragoz350, CGCJ, Manakin Skywalker and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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