Mangold: Asked JW for "big fat album" for Indy 5 with "as many cues as John can bear," also describes score & sound mix

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

Apologies, I meant more than sufficient.

[A. A. Ron 1,739]

That clears it up.

[Bounty95 557]

1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

The OSTs are sufficient.

 

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

19 minutes ago, Bounty95 said:

 

 

I'm actually mute.

[TolkienSS 405]

Are you implying James Mangold is the first person to ever bring JW's attention towards full digital scores?

I hope you don't think JW lives in an ivory tower.

He's likely well aware of it.

But like any, let's say, old folks, he's convinced the thing he's had success with is the bestest ever.

[ThePenitentMan1 742]

15 minutes ago, TolkienSS said:

Are you implying James Mangold is the first person to ever bring JW's attention towards full digital scores?

I hope you don't think JW lives in an ivory tower.

He's likely well aware of it.

But like any, let's say, old folks, he's convinced the thing he's had success with is the bestest ever.

 

That's a really good point.  I think (as far as I know, at least) Mike Matessino is the only guy to convince JW to release complete expansions of his past work, and even then he's not always 100% successful.

[TolkienSS 405]

8 minutes ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

 

That's a really good point.  I think (as far as I know, at least) Mike Matessino is the only guy to convince JW to release complete expansions of his past work, and even then he's not always 100% successful.

 

JW has a good point when he thinks single discs are way more marketable than multi discs. However, "discs" are dying.

And releasing everything from the start spares the cost of future releases.

 

Which, of course, would mean death of specialty labels. 

I can't imagine they can survive on obscure C-movie releases.

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

12 minutes ago, TolkienSS said:

 

JW has a good point when he thinks single discs are way more marketable than multi discs. However, "discs" are dying.

And releasing everything from the start spares the cost of future releases.

 

Which, of course, would mean death of specialty labels. 

I can't imagine they can survive on obscure C-movie releases.

 

Well, they've got Blake Neely.

[BB-8 3,461]

I would prefer a slender physical OST over a "big fat" digital outcome.

[A. A. Ron 1,739]

And I would prefer a big fat digital outcome.

[Faleel 5,340]

I am running out of room, so I have no issues with lossless (!) digital releases.

[Drew 590]

We know JW listens to CDs on CD players. He probably goes "Oww! My back!" when he has to get up and change discs.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

2 hours ago, Drew said:

We know JW listens to CDs on CD players. He probably goes "Oww! My back!" when he has to get up and change discs.

 

What are you talking about? Everybody knows that John Williams is an avid Spotify listener while he plays his PS5 games.

 

 

"Git rekt, noob" -Johnathan T. Williams

[michael_grig 464]

31 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

What are you talking about? Everybody knows that John Williams is an avid Spotify listener while he plays his PS5 games.

 

 

"Git rekt, noob" -Johnathan T. Williams

"Just mute me, fagg*t" 

[BB-8 3,461]

11 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

And I would prefer a big fat digital outcome.

Quantity and quality rarely go hand in hand.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429]

1 hour ago, BB-8 said:

Quantity and quality rarely go hand in hand.

But with John Williams it's usually the case

[BB-8 3,461]

51 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said:

But with John Williams it's usually the case

Considering any physical expansion I would generally agree.

 

I am not aware of any "big fat" digital JW release except the "for your consideration" downloads, maybe "Galaxy's Edge" (which however did come out on vinyl), Benny's Theme, those three recent DG "digital singles", Schindler's from Milan, and the acoustically perturbed "Of Grit and Glory". 

 

To crown it all, the Fanfare for the Vienna Philharmonic Ball which ended up in the social media with zero quality.

[Drew 590]

15 hours ago, Michael Grigorowitsch said:

"Just mute me, fagg*t" 

 

Is this a reference to that silly YouTube skit?

[Brando 1,856]

18 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

What are you talking about? Everybody knows that John Williams is an avid Spotify listener while he plays his PS5 games.

 

 

"Git rekt, noob" -Johnathan T. Williams

John: Hans, get on, let’s go get some noobs.

Hans: I can’t, my mom said no video games until I do my homework.

John: Guess I’ll see if Gia’s awake. 
Michael: heyyy!!

[King Mark 3,625]

On 27/02/2023 at 9:04 AM, Drew said:

AOTC and ROTS got no expansions at all.

 At the time of the TPM UE there was a bunch of online petitions telling Sony it was garbage and wasn't done properly. I thought it was at least better than nothing and we had 90% of the cues and  enough to make complete fan edits and warned people not to send these petitions.

 

They sent those petitions anyways and we never got AoTC and RotS UE .I have a feeling it was out of spite for ungrateful fans.

 

If we had AoTC and RotS UE's at least we'd have most of the cues in high quality and could make near perfect fan edits and waiting for a comprehensive Mastessino release would be more of a luxury instead of something we desperately need.

 

[Drew 590]

I'm thrilled to have the TPM UE. As you said, much better than nothing.

[King Mark 3,625]

 

it's like The Last Jedi isolated score. It's not an ideal way to release the score but it's still one of the greatest unforeseen gifts we ever got. And enough to make near perfect fan edits.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

13 minutes ago, King Mark said:

At the time of the TPM UE there was a bunch of online petitions telling Sony it was garbage and wasn't done properly. I thought it was at least better than nothing and we had 90% of the cues and  enough to make complete fan edits and warned people not to send these petitions.

Yeah aren't those fan petitions like the MAIN reason they didn't make AOTC and ROTS ultimate editions?

[King Mark 3,625]

I like to think so to this day...

[Drew 590]

I thought they were disappointed by the sales of TPM UE. Which was their own fault for producing an isolated score of an early edit of the film that no one asked for. 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

Honestly I think it's good that we never got "Ultimate Editions" for AOTC and ROTS in the past. Then they'd have no incentive to re-expand them going forward. Disney would probably just continue to re-release those for the foreseeable future. Sure, they would've been an excellent resource for fan edits such as my own, but I don't think anyone wants to have to listen to fan edits forever. They're simply placeholders until we get the real deal.

[Smeltington 1,436]

Great point, never thought about it that way. Star Wars music is always in demand, yet the existing releases just get repackaged endlessly. Maybe the fact that some scores have never been expanded will, EVENTUALLY, help the suits decide that a new set of expansions could be marketable. "Never before expanded!" would sound good on promo materials.

[Richard Penna 3,671]

1 hour ago, King Mark said:

If we had AoTC and RotS UE's at least we'd have most of the cues in high quality and could make near perfect fan edits and waiting for a comprehensive Mastessino release would be more of a luxury instead of something we desperately need.

 

Yes, but it would also have suggested to the suits that isolated scores on CD were what fans wanted. In their minds, they've given us the 'complete score' and there would be no need for some 'Mike' guy to do another release.

 

That said, a UE of RotS would probably provide all I want from that score.

[Faleel 5,340]

1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

I don't think anyone wants to have to listen to fan edits forever. They're simply placeholders until we get the real deal.

I mean, people make fan edits from Specialty expansions..... CE3K anyone?

[Holko 9,499]

That's so obviously different.

[Faleel 5,340]

1 minute ago, Holko said:

That's so obviously different.

I mean, yeah.....