Indiana Jones is better than everything

[DarthDementous 1,059]

Indiana Jones but with more of a Kung Fu action twist could work really well

[ThePenitentMan1 743]

The concept of a kung-fu Indy film brings Jackie Chan to mind.  Specifically "Kung Fu Yoga", where he plays an archaeologist.

[Jurassic Shark 12,052]

Why would the film have to contain kung-fu if there's an Asian lead? Kind of stereotypical.

[GerateWohl 4,350]

I would prefer If he had a lightsaber.

 

[Jurassic Shark 12,052]

Or duct tape.

[DarthDementous 1,059]

12 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Why would the film have to contain kung-fu if there's an Asian lead? Kind of stereotypical.

Because the actor is an extremely accomplished film martial artist? Have you seen Everything Everywhere All At Once?

[ThePenitentMan1 743]

1 hour ago, DarthDementous said:

Because the actor is an extremely accomplished film martial artist? Have you seen Everything Everywhere All At Once?

 

Short Round also used some martial arts on a few Thuggee in ToD, so it wouldn't be out of nowhere for the character either.

[Andy 4,118]

20 hours ago, DarthDementous said:

Indiana Jones but with more of a Kung Fu action twist could work really well

Yes, it definitely does. 
 

[Edmilson 7,426]

1 hour ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

 

Short Round also used some martial arts on a few Thuggee in ToD, so it wouldn't be out of nowhere for the character either.

It must've been utterly embarrassing for the Thugee guard to have his ass kicked by a 9-year-old small boy.

[Nick1Ø66 4,710]

3 hours ago, Edmilson said:

It must've been utterly embarrassing for the Thugee guard to have his ass kicked by a 9-year-old small boy.

Thug life.

[ThePenitentMan1 743]

13 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

 

Short Round also used some martial arts on a few Thuggee in ToD, so it wouldn't be out of nowhere for the character either.

 

Darth, is there something wrong with what I wrote here?

[Naïve Old Fart 9,512]

12 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

Thug life.

I get outta bed, eat more than these people eat in a week, and I think about leaving the village (Thug life).

In the afternoon, I get on an elephant, and I go chasing after fortune and glory (Thug life).

Sometimes I ride around with my friend, with some ditzy blonde, in tow (Thug life).

Then we go over to Pankot, where she's given one up the how's-your-father, by someone who likes older women - they love a bit of it.

All the children. So many children. They all go, trapped in chains, trapped in chains through their Thug life.

[Nick1Ø66 4,710]

Living up the Thug life

It's the big Thuggee dream

For those who wish to scheme

Those who wish to scream

Must put aside the vegetarian

Eat monkey brains like a fat barbarian

The infiltration 

The Mola Ram team!

 

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,512]

Very funny!

[DarthDementous 1,059]

6 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

 

Darth, is there something wrong with what I wrote here?

No, I just tend to react with the Thinking emojii when it’s new information I haven’t considered before (been a long ass time since I last saw ToD and have only seen it once)

[Gabriel Bezerra 300]

Has anyone ever tried to mash Rosenthal's Young Indy theme with the Raiders March?

[Bellosh 3,403]

To this day I'm still blown away by how well the Raiders March works for the return to the village scene.  If I ever had the chance to interview or even ask one question to the maestro, it would be asking if the raiders march was always the answer for that scene.  I do think JW could have scored it with its own cue but the fact that the raiders march works perfectly for the scene is a testament to how good that cue really is for emotional scenes.

[Andy 4,118]

I was 12 years old in the theater, crying happy tears at the end of Temple of Doom.   Happiest ending of the series. 

[Brando 1,860]

The cheers of the parents being reunited with their children is such a lovely sound, and of course the cherry on top is the Raiders March covering it all

[Andy 4,118]

The transitions in and especially back out of the March are splendid.  Into the Slave Children theme for “I understand its power now” and then the cheerful transition back to the March for Willie’s conversation with Jones are just jubilant. 

[Jay 37,337]

15 hours ago, Bellosh said:

To this day I'm still blown away by how well the Raiders March works for the return to the village scene.  If I ever had the chance to interview or even ask one question to the maestro, it would be asking if the raiders march was always the answer for that scene.  I do think JW could have scored it with its own cue but the fact that the raiders march works perfectly for the scene is a testament to how good that cue really is for emotional scenes.

 

Oh wow, I never even contemplated that!  I guess I just kinda assumed they always planned on ending it with that, but I can see a world where JW pondered other options, maybe even sketched out something and demoed it on the piano.  Who knows!

 

As it stands, it's probably one of my favorite cues in the whole saga.  It's a great performance of the main elements of the Raiders March, but the way it so successfully integrates Willy's Theme and the Slave Children theme is just outstanding.

I really, REALLY wish he had included it on the original OST LP; I would have dropped 3 minutes elsewhere to include all this in the final track instead of just the first 12 seconds and then jumping forward to the end credits.

[Edmilson 7,426]

24 minutes ago, Jay said:

I really, REALLY wish he had included it on the original OST LP; I would have dropped 3 minutes elsewhere to include all this in the final track instead of just the first 12 seconds and then jumping forward to the end credits.

Which means OST die hards never heard this legendary cue outside of the movie 

[Jay 37,337]

Their loss

[Jurassic Shark 12,052]

15 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Which means OST die hards never heard this legendary cue outside of the movie 

 

It makes the strongest impression in the movie.

[Jay 37,337]

5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

I makes the strongest impression in the movie.

 

You do?

[Jurassic Shark 12,052]

Haven't you seen Jurassic World?

[GerateWohl 4,350]

45 minutes ago, Jay said:

I really, REALLY wish he had included it on the original OST LP; I would have dropped 3 minutes elsewhere to include all this in the final track instead of just the first 12 seconds and then jumping forward to the end credits.

They could have dropped 'The Temple of Doom" from the OST. Not only never liked it, as a young teenager it made me feel quite uneasy. Luckily it was the first track on the second LP side, so easy to skip.

[Brando 1,860]

1 hour ago, GerateWohl said:

They could have dropped 'The Temple of Doom" from the OST. Not only never liked it, as a young teenager it made me feel quite uneasy. Luckily it was the first track on the second LP side, so easy to skip.

But the vocals are incredible!!

[Jay 37,337]

Looking at hte OST LP's tracklist, the only way I can see to make room for the full Return to The Village, is to cut about 3 minutes out of Nocturnal Activities, or drastically shorten the end credits.

But really this score deserved to be a double-LP, just like CE3K and Jedi should have been as well

[Andy 4,118]

28 minutes ago, Jay said:

cut about 3 minutes out of Nocturnal Activities, or drastically shorten the end credits.

 

I would’ve sacrificed Children in Chains.  But even that has important minor key statements of the Slave Children theme. 

[Jay 37,337]

That's the problem, every cue on the OST is an important one!

[Andy 4,118]

2 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

They could have dropped 'The Temple of Doom" from the OST. Not only never liked it, as a young teenager it made me feel quite uneasy. Luckily it was the first track on the second LP side, so easy to skip.

I’ll admit, it’s the track that gets the most reaction from the rest of the people living in your house.   But it is a nightmarish masterpiece of percussion and choir. 

[GerateWohl 4,350]

36 minutes ago, Jay said:

But really this score deserved to be a double-LP just like CE3K and Jedi should have been as well

And Raiders and E.T. 

39 minutes ago, Brando said:

But the vocals are incredible!!

I don't mind or even embrace having the track on a 77 minutes album program. But on an album, that was hardly 40 minutes I would have prefered something else. Like Jay said, these 80s scores would have deserved a double album.

[Edmilson 7,426]

Unpopular opinion: I've never been a fan of the sacrifice cues from ToD either. While I'm not entirely against "demonic chanting" in horror scores (some of my favorite are Goldsmith's The Omen and Don Davis' House on the Haunted Hill), but the Sanskrit Sacrifice in ToD just rubs me the wrong way. So I have no problem skipping them.

 

I listen to a score like Temple of Doom to have fun, not to be haunted by those creepy voices! Lol But I do recognize their artistry.

[Bellosh 3,403]

I almost always skip the sacrifice cues as well.  They don't add much of an experience to me, it's not that I find them annoying, but its mostly cause there's so many amazing cues waiting beyond it.

 

If i do ever listen to them it's because i'm zoned out at work and forgot.

[Jurassic Shark 12,052]

It's great to listen to while sacrificing stuff!

[Holko 9,516]

43 minutes ago, Jay said:

That's the problem, every cue on the OST is an important one!

The problem is that every cue not on the OST is an important one too!

 

 

36 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

 

I listen to a score like Temple of Doom to have fun, not to be haunted by those creepy voices!

But it's such a fun kind of creepy!

[Andy 4,118]

It's a good track to play on its own, apart from the program.  Just as an experimental piece of music.  It's not meant to be pleasant!  It's not the Temple of Joy!

 

The unreleased choral bits when Mola Ram gives his speech to Jones are pretty awesome.

 

But seriously, how the hell did Laurent Bouzerau, as even a passing enthusiast, allow the March into the complete End Titles go unreleased on the Concord set?  That whole finale is a triumph.

[Jay 37,337]

Easy - disc 2 of the set is just all 11 tracks straight off the album master, with 13 additional cues added in between them in the form of 11 new tracks.

 

Disc 5 was a last minute addition to the box where random cues were thrown onto, including Return To The Village as it was recorded with its clean ending

[Jurassic Shark 12,052]

Every OST needs one weird track.

[Andy 4,118]

3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

It's great to listen to while sacrificing stuff!

 

I should've joined a fraternity in college for the sole purpose of using it on the new pledges.

 

That drawn out high pitch wail that finishes out the track.... Is that supposed to be...?

 

Willie Scott?

The first sacrifice losing his mind?

Mola Ram gettin' into it?

A random worshipper possessed by Kali?

[Faleel 5,345]

9 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

I should've joined a fraternity in college for the sole purpose of using it on the new pledges.

 

That drawn out high pitch wail that finishes out the track.... Is that supposed to be...?

 

Willie Scott?

The first sacrifice loosing his mind?

Mola Ram gettin' into it?

A random worshipper possessed by Kali?

 

53 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

I almost always skip the sacrifice cues as well.  They don't add much of an experience to me

They are important though, since they are referenced in the finale!

[ThePenitentMan1 743]

6 hours ago, Bellosh said:

I almost always skip the sacrifice cues as well.  They don't add much of an experience to me, it's not that I find them annoying, but its mostly cause there's so many amazing cues waiting beyond it.

 

If i do ever listen to them it's because i'm zoned out at work and forgot.

 

You don't render out your entire work playlist as a single audio track that's timed to precisely match the time between your breaks?

[Brando 1,860]

I think the extra percussion and choral bits are terrifyingly cool. That's one of the highlights for me. Also, the released portion of Sanskrit Sacrifice turns 40 next month!

[Edmilson 7,426]

I don't know, I (usually) like demonic chanting in horror scores, especially stuff like The Omen or Hellraiser. But in ToD, which is supposed to be a "fun" action score filled with adventure, it gets a little jarring. 

 

In other words, when I listen to Temple of Doom I like to listen to the action cues and the adventure, so I'm not in the right mindset for something as horrific as Sanskrit Sacrifice.

[Nick1Ø66 4,710]

On 29/3/2023 at 7:58 PM, Andy said:

I was 12 years old in the theater, crying happy tears at the end of Temple of Doom.   Happiest ending of the series. 

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

I don't know, I (usually) like demonic chanting in horror scores, especially stuff like The Omen or Hellraiser. But in ToD, which is supposed to be a "fun" action score filled with adventure, it gets a little jarring. 

 

In other words, when I listen to Temple of Doom I like to listen to the action cues and the adventure, so I'm not in the right mindset for something as horrific as Sanskrit Sacrifice.

I always have to mute the audio in the scene where Mola Ram grabs Indy's breast because the chanting is too scary

[ThePenitentMan1 743]

7 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said:

I always have to mute the audio in the scene where Mola Ram grabs Indy's breast because the chanting is too scary

 

That's a portion of an action cue, not a full cue.

 

Those of us who leave out Sanskrit Sacrifice already know that that's where the chanting in Broken Bridge comes from; we just don't wanna have to listen to three or four minutes of it every time we listen to this score!

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

3 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

 

That's a portion of an action cue, not a full cue.

 

Those of us who leave out Sanskrit Sacrifice already know that that's where the chanting in Broken Bridge comes from; we just don't wanna have to listen to three or four minutes of it every time we listen to this score!

I feel like it's essential to the character of the score.  How JW brings all these disparate styles into a cohesive whole.  

[Andy 4,118]

On 1/6/2021 at 8:42 AM, Amer said:

The only thing that riles me about the Sanscript chants are the western performers- it still sounds like a westerner is trying to emulate the sound in their own western accent trying hard to be as accurate possible. Its a common problem when Hollywood tries to do the same for most Russian choral texts in scores. Such as the Hymn from HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER which my Russain speaking friends can barely makout what those lyrics are even saying.

 

I cant make out exactly what they are chanting throughout in Sanskrit in 'Temple of Doom' cue but I do recognise some wordings which make sense:

 

"Tum Hum saey mangta, Hum Tum se Mangta " which is (Sacrafice) "That which you want from us, And What we want from you" 

 

the rest are chanting "Mola Ram Sudh Ram, Jai Ram, Jai Ram" etc

 

Does anyone have the cue's acual score sheet? 

 

 

Jay replied that the score sheet has leaked for decades.  Anyone have just the lyrics?