Original Star Wars albums now available in Spatial Audio on Tidal and Apple Music

[Jay 37,300]

https://music.apple.com/us/album/star-wars-a-new-hope-original-motion-picture-score/1375814280

 

https://music.apple.com/us/album/star-wars-the-empire-strikes-back-original-motion/1375815586

 

https://music.apple.com/us/album/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi-original-motion/1375817940

[A. A. Ron 1,740]

These are just the demasters remixed for atmos, right?

[DangerMotif 1,037]

It's gonna be interesting to see what LLL,Intrada...etc do about Dolby Atmos. When mixed well it's a crazy experience 

[Jay 37,300]

11 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said:

These are just the demasters remixed for atmos, right?

 

Yeah

[Faleel 5,340]

Oh Fuck's sake ~ @Holko (probably)

[Holko 9,499]

Actually I'm very excited to have the center channel in many right channels instead of just one right channel!

[enderdrag64 624]

10 minutes ago, Holko said:

Actually I'm very excited to have the center channel in many right channels instead of just one right channel!

That is actually a good point it'd probably be possible to make a proper downmix from this release instead of the utter trash that was the 2018 stereo mix

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

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3 hours ago, enderdrag64 said:

That is actually a good point it'd probably be possible to make a proper downmix from this release instead of the utter trash that was the 2018 stereo mix

 

Assuming Disney didn't just take the 2018 stereo masters and upconvert to Atmos.

 

Either way, Atmos won't fix the trash performance edits, wrong takes and bad remastering. If anything it'll magnify the flaws.

[igger6 894]

I have an Apple Music trial.  Is this worth my time if I'm not listening on Genuine AirPod$?

[DangerMotif 1,037]

Only listened the main title from ROTJ and Emperor’s theme.

wow these sound amazing, never picked up on a weird theremin like sound in the emperors theme before.

 

Update:These albums are mixed very well Atmos wise

[rough cut 1,714]

I’ve listened to the Star Wars soundtracks in surround for 20+ years now, ever since I got my first 5.1 home cinema back in the early ’00s.

I just pop in any of the CDs from my 1993 box set or the 1997 special edition CDs (holographic discs, naturally!) and choose the multichannel option on the receiver.

 

Sounds great.

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How does this beautiful remastering sound in Dolby Atmos?

 

 

[aj_vader 533]

So if you catpured the audio would it be multichannel or stereo? meaning if you opened it in audicty to see all the channels? 

[Chewy 2,380]

3 hours ago, aj_vader said:

So if you catpured the audio would it be multichannel or stereo? meaning if you opened it in audicty to see all the channels? 

Depends how you capture it. I guess the web browser player outputs stereo for example.

 

Best chance to get this is by downloading the files directly from their servers, but I doubt it is legal and easy to do.

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7 minutes ago, Chewy said:

Best chance to get this is by downloading the files directly from their servers, but I doubt it is legal and easy to do.

 

[Chewy 2,380]

Well I've played some tracks in ESB and it seems like some issues we noticed on the 2018 demasters are gone here?

 

The first thing I played was that part at 4:39 in The Heroics of Luke and Han and it sounds normal here!

[Chewy 2,380]

Those atmos mixes are legit!

 

 

[Taikomochi 1,136]

Heroics of Luke and Han still has the same issues when I use my headphones with Apple Music, but maybe I’m not doing it right

[Chewy 2,380]

40 minutes ago, Taikomochi said:

Heroics of Luke and Han still has the same issues when I use my headphones with Apple Music, but maybe I’m not doing it right

 

It's definitely fixed, you're probably still listening to the old version. The left-channel annoying mix from the 2018 version is completely gone and the edit was corrected.

 

2018 version :

 

 

New version:

 

[Faleel 5,340]

Do we know if this isn't just the 2016 in atmos?

[Chewy 2,380]

7 minutes ago, A Farewell to Kings said:

Do we know if this isn't just the 2016 in atmos?

I suppose the original album masters that were transferred for the 2016 releases were only stereo. I don't see how they would have done true surround mixes based on those!

[Faleel 5,340]

Just now, Chewy said:

I suppose the original OST masters that were transferred for the 2016 releases were only stereo. I don't see how they would have done true surround mixes based on that!

[King Mark 3,625]

does it make a difference with headphones?

 

Does it still work if you convert the files to MP3?

 

I wonder how "The Dark Side Beckons will sound in Atmos....oh wait...

[aj_vader 533]

Here is a bit of the centre channel for The Imperial March. THAT TIMPANI! 🤩

The Battle In The Snow. Listen to that Contrabassoon! 🤩

[SyncMan 313]

In the center channel of my DVD rip from ‘Empire Strikes Back’, I noticed that there was this piano part in the score during the sequence where Leia warns Luke that ‘it’s a trap’ against the laser-gun fire exchanges.  This piano part would occur in ‘Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader’s Trap’ at the track's 6:19 mark but you could barely hear it.  Does this piano part appear in any of the channels of that cue from that Apple album from?

 

 

 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

2 hours ago, SyncMan said:

In the center channel of my DVD rip from ‘Empire Strikes Back’, I noticed that there was this piano part in the score during the sequence where Leia warns Luke that ‘it’s a trap’ against the laser-gun fire exchanges.  This piano part would occur in ‘Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader’s Trap’ at the track's 6:19 mark but you could barely hear it.  Does this piano part appear in any of the channels of that cue from that Apple album from?

 

 

 

The Atmos mix is for the OST, and that cue is not on the OST at all.

[A. A. Ron 1,740]

So what do you all think — Could these new Atmos mixes be the first hint of impending Matessino expansions?

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Nope.

[Holko 9,499]

From the bits Chewy showed me, there are still problems with for example percussion sounding completely lifeless in sections. As much as we'd like to hope and even though they fix some demaster issues, these are very likely not new Mike multitrack OST rebuilds.

[Groovygoth666 650]

2 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

So what do you all think — Could these new Atmos mixes be the first hint of impending Matessino expansions?

Sure. Just like the Mondo Hook vinyl remaster overseen by Matessino being a hint at a another expansion getting released.

[Chewy 2,380]

3 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

So what do you all think — Could these new Atmos mixes be the first hint of impending Matessino expansions?

The TIDAL credits only mention "Shawn Murphy" as an "immersive mix engineer", so Mike didn't work on this.

[aj_vader 533]

I wonder if they started with the atmos mix and then for the 2018 CD's it was summed down to stereo and that's why you have that odd L/R Centre feel to the mixes? 

[Jay 37,300]

Was Atmos as streaming music service a thing in 2018?

 

Or rather 2017, when the work on those was done?

[Giftheck 916]

10 minutes ago, Jay said:

Was Atmos as streaming music service a thing in 2018?

 

Or rather 2017, when the work on those was done?

 

Nope, the service was launched June 2021.

[PokeDocMatt 57]

Listening to Empire right now in my dedicated home theater room with 7.2.4 speakers. It is… impressive. My young boys are jumping to the Imperial March. 

The strings just sparkle!
 

Now if only they’d do Phantom Menace…

[A. A. Ron 1,740]

18 hours ago, Chewy said:

The TIDAL credits only mention "Shawn Murphy" as an "immersive mix engineer", so Mike didn't work on this.

 

Too bad. Still nice they put these out though.

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Hopefully they do the prequels and fix that utterly baffling Demaster mix of Augie's Great Municipal Band.

 

 

[rough cut 1,714]

I’m sure listening to these in “Atmos” sounds great, but I have a feeling no greater effort has been done to remaster these. 

[ThePenitentMan1 742]

10 hours ago, PokeDocMatt said:

Listening to Empire right now in my dedicated home theater room with 7.2.4 speakers. It is… impressive. My young boys are jumping to the Imperial March. 

The strings just sparkle!
 

Now if only they’d do Phantom Menace…

 

I'm just realizing, an Atmos TPM release could potentially be the perfect source for the instrumental DOTF!

 

@Manakin Skywalker I am extremely, extremely sorry for my dickishness in the Expansion Tracklist thread.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

10 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

@Manakin Skywalker I am extremely, extremely sorry for my dickishness in the Expansion Tracklist thread.

 

I... actually don't know what this is in reference to 

 

EDIT: Oh wait nevermind, the DOTF thing lol. No worries, that's just your personal preference is all!

 

10 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

I'm just realizing, an Atmos TPM release could potentially be the perfect source for the instrumental DOTF!

 

Unfortunately I don't think so... the choir is usually mixed in each of the channels 

[Andy 4,087]

1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

I... actually don't know what this is in reference to 

 

I just assumed he was being Penitent. 
 

Seriously though, I do appreciate when there’s a “oh sorry” followed by a “hey no worries”. 

[ThePenitentMan1 742]

6 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

Oh wait nevermind, the DOTF thing lol. No worries, that's just your personal preference is all!

 

Thank you, good sir.   To tell the truth, since that thread I'd been agonizing over it every time I listened to TPM, or even thought about listening to it.  I'm glad I took this opportunity to resolve the issue properly.

 

6 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

Unfortunately I don't think so... the choir is usually mixed in each of the channels 

 

Well...  let's hope that isn't the case once it happens.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

30 minutes ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

Well...  let's hope that isn't the case once it happens.

 

Btw we do have 5.1 mixes of several tracks from the Musical Journey DVD (came with the ROTS album) and the choir is in every channel, just like the DVD/Blu-ray rips. Choir typically isn't mixed center-only, as that would kinda sound like crap. 

[JTN 2,002]

I’ll be fine with my stereo CDs for the OT remastered by Mike Matessino released by one of the specialty labels in 2077 for the 100th Anniversary of Star Wars and the 145th Birthday Celebration of John Williams. 

[ThePenitentMan1 742]

4 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

Btw we do have 5.1 mixes of several tracks from the Musical Journey DVD (came with the ROTS album) and the choir is in every channel, just like the DVD/Blu-ray rips. Choir typically isn't mixed center-only, as that would kinda sound like crap. 

 

I take it that this means the raw Atmos files wouldn't necessarily be the original recording stems?

[aj_vader 533]

4 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

 

I take it that this means the raw Atmos files wouldn't necessarily be the original recording stems?

No 😥

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

12 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

I take it that this means the raw Atmos files wouldn't necessarily be the original recording stems?

 

Nope, Atmos album mixes are just standard 5.1 surround sound.

[Faleel 5,340]

6 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

Nope, Atmos album mixes are just standard 5.1 surround sound.

Sort of.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

1 hour ago, A Farewell to Kings said:

Sort of.

 

Well, I mean to most of us just listening/editing on our computers or whathaveyou.