Jay 37,346 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 https://music.apple.com/us/album/star-wars-a-new-hope-original-motion-picture-score/1375814280 https://music.apple.com/us/album/star-wars-the-empire-strikes-back-original-motion/1375815586 https://music.apple.com/us/album/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi-original-motion/1375817940 1977, Chewy, That_Bloke and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 These are just the demasters remixed for atmos, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 It's gonna be interesting to see what LLL,Intrada...etc do about Dolby Atmos. When mixed well it's a crazy experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: These are just the demasters remixed for atmos, right? Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Oh Fuck's sake ~ @Holko (probably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,519 Posted May 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2023 Actually I'm very excited to have the center channel in many right channels instead of just one right channel! enderdrag64, crumbs, MrJosh and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Holko said: Actually I'm very excited to have the center channel in many right channels instead of just one right channel! That is actually a good point it'd probably be possible to make a proper downmix from this release instead of the utter trash that was the 2018 stereo mix Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2023 Trope, MrJosh, enderdrag64 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,306 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, enderdrag64 said: That is actually a good point it'd probably be possible to make a proper downmix from this release instead of the utter trash that was the 2018 stereo mix Assuming Disney didn't just take the 2018 stereo masters and upconvert to Atmos. Either way, Atmos won't fix the trash performance edits, wrong takes and bad remastering. If anything it'll magnify the flaws. Holko, enderdrag64 and Trope 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 I have an Apple Music trial. Is this worth my time if I'm not listening on Genuine AirPod$? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Only listened the main title from ROTJ and Emperor’s theme. wow these sound amazing, never picked up on a weird theremin like sound in the emperors theme before. Update:These albums are mixed very well Atmos wise Trope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 I’ve listened to the Star Wars soundtracks in surround for 20+ years now, ever since I got my first 5.1 home cinema back in the early ’00s. I just pop in any of the CDs from my 1993 box set or the 1997 special edition CDs (holographic discs, naturally!) and choose the multichannel option on the receiver. Sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 How does this beautiful remastering sound in Dolby Atmos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 So if you catpured the audio would it be multichannel or stereo? meaning if you opened it in audicty to see all the channels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, aj_vader said: So if you catpured the audio would it be multichannel or stereo? meaning if you opened it in audicty to see all the channels? Depends how you capture it. I guess the web browser player outputs stereo for example. Best chance to get this is by downloading the files directly from their servers, but I doubt it is legal and easy to do. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,306 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Chewy said: Best chance to get this is by downloading the files directly from their servers, but I doubt it is legal and easy to do. crlbrg, Trope, ThePenitentMan1 and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Well I've played some tracks in ESB and it seems like some issues we noticed on the 2018 demasters are gone here? The first thing I played was that part at 4:39 in The Heroics of Luke and Han and it sounds normal here! aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,388 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2023 Those atmos mixes are legit! Cantina.wav Cantina2.wav Trope, Holko, Jay and 5 others 2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Heroics of Luke and Han still has the same issues when I use my headphones with Apple Music, but maybe I’m not doing it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 40 minutes ago, Taikomochi said: Heroics of Luke and Han still has the same issues when I use my headphones with Apple Music, but maybe I’m not doing it right It's definitely fixed, you're probably still listening to the old version. The left-channel annoying mix from the 2018 version is completely gone and the edit was corrected. 2018 version : 2018.mp3 New version: Atmos.mp3 Brando, Jay, Trope and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Do we know if this isn't just the 2016 in atmos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, A Farewell to Kings said: Do we know if this isn't just the 2016 in atmos? I suppose the original album masters that were transferred for the 2016 releases were only stereo. I don't see how they would have done true surround mixes based on those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,346 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, Chewy said: I suppose the original OST masters that were transferred for the 2016 releases were only stereo. I don't see how they would have done true surround mixes based on that! Andy, Holko, Giftheck and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 does it make a difference with headphones? Does it still work if you convert the files to MP3? I wonder how "The Dark Side Beckons will sound in Atmos....oh wait... aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aj_vader 534 Posted May 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2023 Here is a bit of the centre channel for The Imperial March. THAT TIMPANI! 🤩 Imperial March Centre .mp3 The Battle In The Snow. Listen to that Contrabassoon! 🤩 The Battle In The Snow (Contrabassoon).mp3 Jay, Chewy, artguy360 and 7 others 4 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyncMan 314 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 In the center channel of my DVD rip from ‘Empire Strikes Back’, I noticed that there was this piano part in the score during the sequence where Leia warns Luke that ‘it’s a trap’ against the laser-gun fire exchanges. This piano part would occur in ‘Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader’s Trap’ at the track's 6:19 mark but you could barely hear it. Does this piano part appear in any of the channels of that cue from that Apple album from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 2 hours ago, SyncMan said: In the center channel of my DVD rip from ‘Empire Strikes Back’, I noticed that there was this piano part in the score during the sequence where Leia warns Luke that ‘it’s a trap’ against the laser-gun fire exchanges. This piano part would occur in ‘Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader’s Trap’ at the track's 6:19 mark but you could barely hear it. Does this piano part appear in any of the channels of that cue from that Apple album from? The Atmos mix is for the OST, and that cue is not on the OST at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 So what do you all think — Could these new Atmos mixes be the first hint of impending Matessino expansions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Nope. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,519 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 From the bits Chewy showed me, there are still problems with for example percussion sounding completely lifeless in sections. As much as we'd like to hope and even though they fix some demaster issues, these are very likely not new Mike multitrack OST rebuilds. aj_vader and Giftheck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 663 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 2 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: So what do you all think — Could these new Atmos mixes be the first hint of impending Matessino expansions? Sure. Just like the Mondo Hook vinyl remaster overseen by Matessino being a hint at a another expansion getting released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 3 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: So what do you all think — Could these new Atmos mixes be the first hint of impending Matessino expansions? The TIDAL credits only mention "Shawn Murphy" as an "immersive mix engineer", so Mike didn't work on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 I wonder if they started with the atmos mix and then for the 2018 CD's it was summed down to stereo and that's why you have that odd L/R Centre feel to the mixes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 Was Atmos as streaming music service a thing in 2018? Or rather 2017, when the work on those was done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jay said: Was Atmos as streaming music service a thing in 2018? Or rather 2017, when the work on those was done? Nope, the service was launched June 2021. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeDocMatt 57 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Listening to Empire right now in my dedicated home theater room with 7.2.4 speakers. It is… impressive. My young boys are jumping to the Imperial March. The strings just sparkle! Now if only they’d do Phantom Menace… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 18 hours ago, Chewy said: The TIDAL credits only mention "Shawn Murphy" as an "immersive mix engineer", so Mike didn't work on this. Too bad. Still nice they put these out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,306 Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 Hopefully they do the prequels and fix that utterly baffling Demaster mix of Augie's Great Municipal Band. aj_vader, enderdrag64 and Giftheck 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I’m sure listening to these in “Atmos” sounds great, but I have a feeling no greater effort has been done to remaster these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 10 hours ago, PokeDocMatt said: Listening to Empire right now in my dedicated home theater room with 7.2.4 speakers. It is… impressive. My young boys are jumping to the Imperial March. The strings just sparkle! Now if only they’d do Phantom Menace… I'm just realizing, an Atmos TPM release could potentially be the perfect source for the instrumental DOTF! @Manakin Skywalker I am extremely, extremely sorry for my dickishness in the Expansion Tracklist thread. Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 10 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: @Manakin Skywalker I am extremely, extremely sorry for my dickishness in the Expansion Tracklist thread. I... actually don't know what this is in reference to EDIT: Oh wait nevermind, the DOTF thing lol. No worries, that's just your personal preference is all! 10 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: I'm just realizing, an Atmos TPM release could potentially be the perfect source for the instrumental DOTF! Unfortunately I don't think so... the choir is usually mixed in each of the channels ThePenitentMan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,119 Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I... actually don't know what this is in reference to I just assumed he was being Penitent. Seriously though, I do appreciate when there’s a “oh sorry” followed by a “hey no worries”. A. A. Ron, ThePenitentMan1 and Manakin Skywalker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Oh wait nevermind, the DOTF thing lol. No worries, that's just your personal preference is all! Thank you, good sir. To tell the truth, since that thread I'd been agonizing over it every time I listened to TPM, or even thought about listening to it. I'm glad I took this opportunity to resolve the issue properly. 6 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Unfortunately I don't think so... the choir is usually mixed in each of the channels Well... let's hope that isn't the case once it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: Well... let's hope that isn't the case once it happens. Btw we do have 5.1 mixes of several tracks from the Musical Journey DVD (came with the ROTS album) and the choir is in every channel, just like the DVD/Blu-ray rips. Choir typically isn't mixed center-only, as that would kinda sound like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,003 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I’ll be fine with my stereo CDs for the OT remastered by Mike Matessino released by one of the specialty labels in 2077 for the 100th Anniversary of Star Wars and the 145th Birthday Celebration of John Williams. Trope, aj_vader, Martinland and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Btw we do have 5.1 mixes of several tracks from the Musical Journey DVD (came with the ROTS album) and the choir is in every channel, just like the DVD/Blu-ray rips. Choir typically isn't mixed center-only, as that would kinda sound like crap. I take it that this means the raw Atmos files wouldn't necessarily be the original recording stems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 4 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: I take it that this means the raw Atmos files wouldn't necessarily be the original recording stems? No 😥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 12 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: I take it that this means the raw Atmos files wouldn't necessarily be the original recording stems? Nope, Atmos album mixes are just standard 5.1 surround sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Nope, Atmos album mixes are just standard 5.1 surround sound. Sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, A Farewell to Kings said: Sort of. Well, I mean to most of us just listening/editing on our computers or whathaveyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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