Interesting Mike Matessino comments, new release “very soon”!

[Faleel 5,346]

He said it had nothing to do with Williams. I would think it being for a Williams scored franchise would be something.

[Holko 9,525]

27 minutes ago, Jay said:

we are knocking on a different door in the hallway than the usual ones.

Why are you guys ignoring this? Doesn't say HP or JP to me. Different studio? Not even a score? What could this be?

[Faleel 5,346]

Just now, Holko said:

Why are you guys ignoring this? Doesn't say HP or JP to me. Different studio? Not even a score? What could this be?

Different composer. A reference to when multiple composers worked in the same building.

[DangerMotif 1,037]

1 minute ago, Holko said:

Why are you guys ignoring this? Doesn't say HP or JP to me. Different studio? Not even a score? What could this be?

Monsters inc

[Richard Penna 3,686]

Makes you think, what could take ages for some reason (possibly with paperwork), warrant something from Williams in the liners, but perhaps not have that 'star release' appeal.

 

I personally think JP3 needs expansion the most out of all of the franchises he started.

[thx99 1,740]

52 minutes ago, Jay said:

Mike just replied in the FSM thread:

 

I really appreciate Mike Matessino!
He manages to answer emails with all the projects that surround him.
He is really cool!
Thanks to you Mike!

I hope I’m still half cool when it’s revealed that we are knocking on a different door in the hallway than the usual ones. Nothing to do with John Williams, although there is a quote from him in the booklet.

My guess is a previously unreleased Mancini score.

[Holko 9,525]

33 minutes ago, A Farewell to Kings said:

Different composer. A reference to when multiple composers worked in the same building.

Not "than the usual one" meaning it's not JW, but "than the usual ones"

[Jay 37,352]

On 15/05/2023 at 12:50 PM, Alan said:

 Around the 54 minute mark

 

Mike (in response to it being revealed that he will be on the show again soon: " I look forward to it as well and there will be things to talk about"

Tim: "...big stuff".

 

I just listened.  Tim doesn't say "big stuff", he says "great stuff", as in, it'll be great to talk again soon. 

 

Nobody said anything about the "size" of any upcoming titles.

[mstrox 6,651]

If it’s not Williams, I suspect it’ll be something like the Universal Classics Collection - something that Mike would be involved with which, as a single release, might only be exciting to some, but would portend other releases to come.
 

I think a Mancini connection as someone mentioned above would be a good guess.  I know Williams was involved in a re-recording recently and it was said that other Mancini tapings would be done - maybe something to do with that?

[Tallguy 3,385]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

 

I just listened.  Tim doesn't say "big stuff", he says "great stuff", as in, it'll be great to talk again soon.  Nobody said anything about the "size" of any upcoming titles.

 

Jay, you're just trying to cover for the fact that you KNOW that the Star Wars / Indiana Jones / Harry Potter COMPLETE SET is imminent. (With Jurassic Park III as a decorative display stand.)

[A. A. Ron 1,742]

5 hours ago, A Farewell to Kings said:

LLL Indy 5.

I thought of this, but it couldn’t have been in the cooker for a long time.

[Marian Schedenig 8,192]

5 hours ago, Jay said:

I hope I’m still half cool when it’s revealed that we are knocking on a different door in the hallway than the usual ones. Nothing to do with John Williams, although there is a quote from him in the booklet.

 

Sounds to me like it's a collaboration with a different studio/legal entity than the usual ones, and one that holds other interesting stuff that might too be released if this does well.

[Bellosh 3,418]

6 hours ago, Edmilson said:

 Or something from Young Indiana Jones. 

 

Don't mess with my heart

 

[mstrox 6,651]

They’re finally going to start releasing Jerry Goldsmith scores.

[A. A. Ron 1,742]

Someone at FSM pointed out that this could be Moonraker. That would be pretty cool!

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

10 hours ago, DangerMotif said:

Monsters inc

Wake me when they do University

[Naïve Old Fart 9,516]

Geez Louise. "Very soon" means "in the next half-hour", and not in the next few months.

[Brónach 1,302]

17 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

I thought of this, but it couldn’t have been in the cooker for a long time

 

unfortunately, many elements of Indy 5 are missing and will need to be rerecorded

[Tallguy 3,385]

I heard that the tapes for Star Wars X are in terrible condition and may need some expert care, if they can be retrieved at all!

[bruckhorn 105]

Yeah, it could be Moonraker, but wouldn't it be more interesting if it turned out to be GoldenEye?  With the Williams quote being how he always wanted to score a Bond film and it turns out that he was approached to do GoldenEye, but his agent said he wasn't available.

 

If you're gonna speculate, speculate!

[Naïve Old Fart 9,516]

3 hours ago, Tallguy said:

I heard that the tapes for Star Wars X are in terrible condition and may need some expert care, if they can be retrieved at all!

 

X marks the spot 

[bollemanneke 3,342]

On 15/05/2023 at 7:23 PM, Holko said:

Why are you guys ignoring this? Doesn't say HP or JP to me. Different studio? Not even a score? What could this be?

I am ignoring it because it HAS to be HP4. I WANT HIM TO DO HP4.

[bigjimwilson 254]

That Mancini thought has got me all excited. First Pink Panther?.... Have they found it? Or A Shot In The Dark. Man, that would be amazing. A quote from Johnny T about Hank would be very appropriate indeed. It would make sense if that were to happen over in Quartet country following the last boxset. Chris Malone doesn't exactly need Mike to hold his hand on something like that though... so who knows. 

[Jay 37,352]

How did you make your avatar animate for a bit and the stop, instead of looping forever?

[bigjimwilson 254]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

How did you make your avatar animate for a bit and the stop, instead of looping forever?

 

Incredible secret gif skills........ which also appear to be completely secret from me too 

[Tallguy 3,385]

JWFan: It's educational!

 

https://filmora.wondershare.com/animated-gif/how-to-remove-gif-loop.html

[Jurassic Shark 12,067]

Has it been released yet?

[Jay 37,352]

There'll be a thread for it when it is

[Jay 37,352]

Here it is

 

Jack Marshall Universal Television Music - THE MUNSTERS / THE DEPUTY / WAGON TRAIN / THE VIRGINIAN - NEW! 2023 La-La Land 2-CD set

[Marian Schedenig 8,192]

Hm.

[Yavar Moradi 2,599]

You guys are missing the BIG PICTURE here. I'm 100% sure this is the release Mike Matessino was referring to with these comments:
https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119230&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=741#bottom
"More immediately there is a release that will be announced very soon that has been in the cooker for a long time, and I hope it will be well received for both what it is as well as for where it might potentially lead."

 

So yeah the way I read this is that bigtime Hollywood director/producer Frank Marshall (son of film/TV composer Jack Marshall, who worked with Mike Matessino to produce two previous albums of his father's music, and presumably helped get a note from JOHN WILLIAMS HIMSELF on the Thunder Road album) is using his Hollywood clout to help Mike Mattesino (and therefore La-La Land Records and other labels) access more things at Universal than were available previously... namely Universal TELEVISION (aka Revue), where his father worked and produced some music to mine for album.

 

Ever since the the Universal Classics series of mostly-premieres began half a decade ago, MV at LLL has been expressing hope of eventually getting into their TV holdings -- but this is the first time it's happened! (Yes, we had scattered examples before like Stu Phillips's Knight Rider work on FSM, but those were special cases.)

So Mike's "where it might potentially lead" could mean a set of Oliver Nelson's The Six Million Dollar Man scores, a title MV has expressed clear interest in. It could mean finally an official release of original music for Columbo, by Nelson/Goldenberg/Melle/DeBenedictis/etc.!

 

But it's not just about exciting 1970s TV music possibilities like those two titles. Not even remotely. Because we've heard composers like GOLDSMITH, WILLIAMS, SCHIFRIN, GRUSIN, and Quincy JONES reminisce about their camaraderie and time together working at Revue in the early-mid 1960s. These composers were in their PRIME back then, and there is now strong potential for PREMIERE releases of music in good sound, by ALL of them, from this important time period in their careers when they all had offices near each other at Revue and they were listening to what each other were doing. Oh and also...it wasn't just the new guys. Lots of amazing Golden Age veterans were also getting TV work at Revue during that same time period!

 

Now for The Munsters and The Deputy, Jack Marshall was THE composer as far as I can tell. No guest composers listed on IMDb anyways (thought that's not always accurate as we all know). But let's look at the other two series, because La-La Land and Mike Mattesino were able to access original Jack Marshall scores for WAGON TRAIN and THE VIRGINIAN for this release! That means they've got archive access to tapes for those series -- *they have both located and transferred tapes* for those two beloved western TV series, which ran for a whopping EIGHT and NINE seasons, respectively.

 

What premiere possibilities exist for those two series alone?

Well on The Virginian there were single scores by Franz Waxman, Hans J. Salter, Oliver Nelson, Patrick Williams, and Frank DeVol! Multiple scores by Bernard Herrmann, Fred Steiner, Dave Grusin, Russell Garcia, Morton Stevens, Harry Sukman, David Buttolph, Richard Shores, Lyn Murray, David Shire (some of his earliest Hollywood composing credits), and Leonard Rosenman! To say nothing of an amazing Ennio Morricone theme written for the final season when the show became "The Men from Shiloh"! What a lineup of talent!

 

But even that pales in comparison IMO to the potential of a Wagon Train set, folks... at least a HALF DOZEN original scores by none other than JOHN WILLIAMS! FIVE original scores by Jerome Moross (plus all the versions of his theme, of course). TWO original scores by JERRY GOLDSMITH! TWO original scores by Leigh HARLINE! FOUR by Ernest Gold! And, super exciting for me, a whopping SEVEN original scores by one of my favorite Golden Age composers, the underrated ROY WEBB -- these were actually his FINAL COMPOSITIONS for Hollywood!

 

Then there are a bunch of scores by other quality names like Morton Stevens, Lyn Murray, David Buttolph, Cyril Mockridge, Richard Shores, Conrad Salinger, Alexander Courage, Laurindo Almeida, Jeff Alexander, Hans J. Salter, Nathan Van Cleave, etc. And then single scores by perhaps bigger names like David RAKSIN, Frank SKINNER, Daniele AMFITHEATROF, Frank DeVOL, Gerald FRIED, John GREEN, Herman STEIN, William LAVA, and Lalo SCHIFRIN.

It is MIND-BLOWING to think of a potential 4CD set of premieres for this series... or hell why not go for a couple 4CD sets (and spread out the Williams and Goldsmith between them to help the sales)?

 

And then there are all the Revue series that Jack Marshall didn't work on as he did with those two. We could get a CD of 87th PRECINCT music by Morton Stevens + the single score for the series written by Jerry Goldsmith. We could get a CD of DESTRY, a short-lived single season western TV series with THREE original Goldsmith scores, plus a score each from Morton Stevens and Cyril Mockridge.

 

Then there are the anthology shows, with each episode treated almost like a mini-feature...
CHRYSLER THEATER had original scores by WILLIAMS, HERRMANN, SCHIFRIN, and GOLDSMITH, among others.
The various incarnations of KRAFT THEATER had original scores by WILLIAMS, WAXMAN, GOLDSMITH, SCHIFRIN, MURRAY, and HERRMANN, among others.
and oh yeah maybe even the original tapes could be found for...
THRILLER! SIXTEEN original scores by Goldsmith (which are much longer than the Tadlow suites would indicate), plus even more by Morton Stevens and Pete Rugolo (and one by William Lava).

 

There are many other fantastic 60s and 70s shows to consider as well, which I'm sure others here can supply. But the mind boggles at the possibilities...

 

Yavar

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

36 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

So yeah the way I read this is that bigtime Hollywood director/producer Frank Marshall (son of film/TV composer Jack Marshall, who worked with Mike Matessino to produce two previous albums of his father's music, and presumably helped get a note from JOHN WILLIAMS HIMSELF on the Thunder Road album) is using his Hollywood clout to help Mike Mattesino (and therefore La-La Land Records and other labels) access more things at Universal than were available previously.

 

Hey and let's not forget his wife is Kathleen Kennedy... President of Lucasfilm Kathleen Kennedy!

 

"Hey honey, there's this guy I'm friends with named Mike, and he's wondering if he can do some Star Wars expansions."

"Ugh... fine. But we're letting my mother stay with us for two weeks in August!"

"Darn!"

[Jurassic Shark 12,067]

You need a better mother for this...

[Tom 4,654]

2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

You need a better mother for this...

How about Mutter's mother?  

[Jurassic Shark 12,067]

3 minutes ago, Tom said:

How about Mutter's mother?  

 

That's deep, man.

[Tom 4,654]

26 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

That's deep, man.

That's what your mother said.  

[ThePenitentMan1 743]

3 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

Hey and let's not forget his wife is Kathleen Kennedy... President of Lucasfilm Kathleen Kennedy!

 

"Hey honey, there's this guy I'm friends with named Mike, and he's wondering if he can do some Star Wars expansions."

"Ugh... fine. But we're letting my mother stay with us for two weeks in August!"

"Darn!"

 

I wonder...  Which one would be more likely to be done first: Star Wars or Indy?

[Brando 1,863]

25 minutes ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

 

I wonder...  Which one would be more likely to be done first: Star Wars or Indy?

Probably whichever one has the least amount of headaches involved....

[Archive Collection 214]

1 hour ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

 

I wonder...  Which one would be more likely to be done first: Star Wars or Indy?

 

Indy... however I don't think they'll do KOTCS because it's a post-2005 score.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,891]

1 hour ago, Archive Collection said:

Indy... however I don't think they'll do KOTCS because it's a post-2005 score.

 

I think that's mainly an issue for scores that aren't nearly as big. This on the other hand is an Indiana Jones score, and the fees are mere peanuts to Disney.

[mahler3 478]

Oh dear, the ambiguity carnage I caused here by my mumbling! Apologies, I’ll learn to annunciate better next time!

[Jurassic Shark 12,067]

So what was it?

[Jay 37,352]

9 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

So what was it?

 

 

On 31/05/2023 at 1:53 PM, Jay said:

Jack Marshall Universal Television Music - THE MUNSTERS / THE DEPUTY / WAGON TRAIN / THE VIRGINIAN - NEW! 2023 La-La Land 2-CD set