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Thanks for sharing! That was so wonderful to read. :) This collaboration is nothing short of a dream come true. I'm so excited for this score.

Posted

Wow, that's unexpected. I really like Labrinth's work in Euphoria so I'm even more interested to hear how S3 will turn out!

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1 Chief of War Main Title (1:24)
2 Ku Mai Ka Mano (3:33)
3 Stand with Maui (2:45)
4 Infected Bloodlines (2:47)
5 Currents of Ka?iwi (3:35)
6 Zamboanga (4:01)
7 The Burden is Mine (2:04)
8 Rising Flame (2:54)
9 Kumakena (1:38)
10 A New Awakening (3:24)
11 Pau Iki, Pau Nui (1:26)
12 Black Desert of Ka?u (5:22)
13 Mamalahoa (3:55)
14 The Ship Sings (3:00)
15 Die Worthy (1:24)
16 Fed to the Pigs (5:20)
17 Ka?iana Ascends (3:50)
18 Nightmare Fish (2:41)
19 Dark of the Hilo Moon (3:27)
20 Hulihia (2:48)
21 Gods of Our Beginning and End (2:58)
22 Volcano (5:36)
23 Poisoned (2:16)
24 Hand of Mercy (2:08)
25 Truth in the Wind (1:50)
TOTAL TIME - 1:16:06


https://music.apple.com/nz/album/chief-of-war-apple-tv-original-series-soundtrack/1828291969
https://www.qobuz.com/nz-en/album/chief-of-war-apple-tv-original-series-soundtrack-hans-zimmer-james-everingham/qc2hbqov28lhc

Posted

I'm really curious about this show! Hope it's good. There's a lot of unexplored potential in this slice of history. A Polynesian War epic is not something we see too much in American-produced cinema/streaming shows. (I wanna say Zemekis was attached to direct a King Kamehameha biopic a while ago with Dwayne Johnson but it never got off the ground.)

As for the score, I'm not expecting too much. Not when grand epic series like 'Shogun' are getting blah soundscapes scores these days. But the samples sound ok so far. I like the vocals and percussion. Just hit me with some great themes!

Posted

The main title theme showed up on my "New Releases" playlist on Spotify today.  It was fine.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

A question for @Stéphane Humez: do you know why so much of The Dark Knight is scored with Batman Begins material? For example, one of the movie's most important scenes, Batman rushing to save Rachel who has been captured alongside Harvey while someone blows up the police station to free the Joker, is scored with an arrangement of JNH's material for the battle in the League of Shadows' temple from Begins.

 

I feel like one of the things that prevents me from totally enjoying the music for TDK is that it seems like the epitome of "suite scoring". Hans created the 9 minute Joker theme suite and the new Batman theme (which you named the "Ice theme" in your website), JNH wrote Harvey Dent's theme. Then, all the movie cues seem to have been created by Hans' team (especially Lorne Balfe) using these suites plus Batman Begins material to fill in the gaps. It's kinda similar to John Williams' Chamber of Secrets.

 

Was it a time constraint situation that prevented them from writing a full new action cue for the "Batman wants to save Rachel but ends up saving Dent" setpiece? Or other scenes where they had to adapt Begins music? 

Posted

I'm probably wrong, but isn't the Harvey Dent theme in Batman Begins, too? I remember thinking it appears when Bruce takes the elevator down to the Batcave and looks at his suit.

 

Here, at 1:50

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, Stéphane Humez said:

Guys don't get me started on TDK Trilogy or I'll have to write a novel... :mrgreen:

I'd read a whole book on the scores (and the composition and recording) of the Dark Knight Trilogy :lol:

 

And yeah, the score as heard in the movie feels like a typical case of temp track love. They tracked the suites and stuff written for Begins all over the movie and then asked the team to stick to it. I remember reading in your HZ website that TDKR was a nightmare for Hans. It's impressive that they still managed to write some nice music under these conditions. I really enjoy the Ice theme from TDK, and some of the more ambient parts of TDRK are rather nice.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hans Zimmer (The Dark Knight, Gladiator, The Lion King, Dune, Inception, Interstellar), Steven Doar & Omer Benyamin are attached to score the upcoming drama The Last Photograph. The film is directed by Zack Snyder (300, Dawn of the Dead, Watchmen) and will star Stuart Martin and Fra Fee. The movie centers on a ex-DEA operative who must return to the South American mountains following the brutal murders of their diplomat parents, in an effort to find his missing niece and nephew.

 

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2025/08/19/hans-zimmer-steven-doar-omer-benyamin-to-score-zack-snyders-the-last-photograph/

Posted

Has anybody done a score restore of the truck chase from TDK?

Hans plays that UNused music in concert!

 

Voila! Awesome scene with and without the score!

 

Posted

@bruce marshall
That's cool to see! Thanks for sharing that. "Like A Dog Chasing Cars" is a suite, correct? Was that truck chase originally going to be scored with that material, and Nolan opted not to?

If so, Nolan made the right choice here. Having almost no score in that scene creates way more tension, I think. (Like the T. rex attack in Jurassic Park)  I wish Nolan would be more judicious in his spotting these days! The absence of music can be just as impactful (looking at you, overscored Dunkirk and Oppenheimer!).

Posted

AFAIK  Zimmer scored the scene but it was dropped from the final cut.

One can understand why it's played in concert. Pretty dynamic piece of music which features the full BATMAN theme.

Posted
1 hour ago, WampaRat said:


That's cool to see! Thanks for sharing that. "Like A Dog Chasing Cars" is a suite, correct?

Correct. The name of the track and its placement on the OST album might have induced people to think it was an unused cue for the chase scene. However, "Like a Dog Chasing Cars" is just a fancy name for "103BPM Action Ice Theme v7", which is (I think) the action version of the new Batman heroic theme, dubbed the Ice theme (because I think it originated from Bruce training with Ra's al-Ghul on ice in Begins? Not sure).

 

Here's the cues and/or suites that comprise every track in TDK OST, courtesy of hans-zimmer.com:

 

  1. Why So Serious?: The Joker Suite (Edited)
  2. I'm Not A Hero: 1m02 v1 Find The Batman + 2m13 v8 Trip To Hong Kong (Edited) + 3m28 v6 Loud Enough (Edited) + 2m16 v19 LSI Extraction (Edited)
  3. Harvey Two-Face: Harvey Dent Suite v7 (Edited)
  4. Aggressive Expansion: 4m42A v4.03 Pod Deploys (Edited) + 7m62 v5 A Dark Knight + 2m14-15 v11 Put A Smile On That Face (Edited) + 3m22 v6 Joker Crashes The Party (Edited)
  5. Always A Catch: 4m42B v2 Batman Down + 1m04 v7.01 Dirty Cash
  6. Blood On My Hands: 1m07 v8 Bank Warrants - LSI Holdings (Edited)
  7. A Little Push: 4m37-38 ALT Interrogating Schiff
  8. Like A Dog Chasing Cars: 103BPM Action Ice Theme v7 (Edited)
  9. I Am The Batman: 3m26-27 v5 Watch The World Burn (Edited)
  10. And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad: 5m51-52A v9.01 Hospital Bomb Scare Pt 1 (2nd part) (Edited)
  11. Agent Of Chaos: 5m46-47 v9.01 Wired (Edited)
  12. Introduce A Little Anarchy: 6m57 v6 Storming Pruitt Building (Edited)
  13. Watch The World Burn: 7m60A v7 Eye For An Eye
  14. A Dark Knight: New Batman Theme v48.05 (Edited)

The "Action Ice" theme is great but it was wasted in the movie. If I remember correctly, it's used only once, and quickly, during the Storming Pruitt Building setpiece:

 

 

I remember @Stéphane Humez saying the "Action Ice Theme" suite was actually the work of Lorne Balfe rather than Hans, even though it sounds 100% like Zimmer... Is it true, Stéphane?

 

12 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

AFAIK  Zimmer scored the scene but it was dropped from the final cut.

One can understand why it's played in concert. Pretty dynamic piece of music which features the full BATMAN theme.

The full cue list for the movie doesn't have anything for where the chase scene was supposed to be. So I'm not sure if Zimmer wrote something that went dropped and never leaked, or if the choice of having it without music was made from the beginning, before they actually scored the movie.

 

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1m00 Logo (0:59)
Mel Wesson


1m01 v10.03 Bank Robbery (5:36)
Hans Zimmer


1m02 v1 Find The Batman (1:46)
Hans Zimmer


1m03 v13 Buyer Beware (3:06)
Hans Zimmer, Mel Wesson


1m04 v7.01 Dirty Cash (0:55)
James Newton Howard


1m05 v8 The New DA (1:04)
James Newton Howard


1m06 v7 Hostile Witness (1:43)
James Newton Howard


1m07 v8 Bank Warrants - LSI Holdings (2:40)
James Newton Howard


2m09 v3.01 Who Appointed Batman? (1:17)
James Newton Howard


2m10 v2 Move The Money (1:34)
Hans Zimmer


2m11 Kill The Batman (3:18)
Hans Zimmer


2m12 v8 Halfway To Hong Kong (1:19)
James Newton Howard


2m13 v8 Trip To Hong Kong (1:29)
Hans Zimmer


2m14-15 v11 Put A Smile On That Face (4:05)
Hans Zimmer


2m16 v19 LSI Extraction (4:01)
Hans Zimmer


2m17 v6 Mobsters Taken To Justice (0:59)
James Newton Howard


2m18 7.01 Are You Up To It? (1:14)
James Newton Howard


3m20-21 v4 A Hero With A Face (1:25)
James Newton Howard


3m22 v6 Joker Crashes The Party (3:05)
Hans Zimmer


3m23 v2 Panic Room (0:33)
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe


3m24-25 v6.01 You're Gonna Love Me (3:04)
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe


3m26-27 v5 Watch The World Burn (3:19)
Hans Zimmer, James Newton Howard


3m28 v6 Loud Enough (4:06)
Hans Zimmer


3m30 v4 Speech Ambush (1:39)
Hans Zimmer


3m32J v4 Dent To Van (0:52)
James Newton Howard


3m32H v1.03 Gordon Is Dead (1:05)
Hans Zimmer


4m34-35 Rachel Next (1:05)
James Newton Howard


4m37-38 v9 Interrogating Schiff (2:50)
James Newton Howard


4m37-38 ALT Interrogating Schiff (Alternate) (2:43) 
James Newton Howard 


4m39A v3 Blood On My Hands (1:41)
James Newton Howard


4m39B v2 The Outcast (1:00)
Lorne Balfe


4m40 v6 I Am The Batman (3:44)
James Newton Howard


4m41 Truck Convoy (1:07)
Hans Zimmer


4m42A v4.03 Pod Deploys (0:57)
Hans Zimmer


4m42B v2 Batman Down (0:51)
Hans Zimmer


4m43 v6 We Gotcha (1:17)
James Newton Howard


4m44 v2 Gordon Returns Home (1:08)
James Newton Howard


5m45 You Complete Me (3:41)
Hans Zimmer


5m46-47 v9.01 Wired (8:49)
Hans Zimmer


5m48-49 REV v9 Harvey Two-Face (2:43)
James Newton Howard


5m50 v2.06 This Is My City (2:22)
Hans Zimmer


5m51-52A v9.01 Hospital Bomb Scare Pt 1 (3:40)
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe


5m52B v6.05 Hospital Bomb Scare Pt 2 (3:57)
Hans Zimmer


6m53 Explosion Aftermath (2:20)
Hans Zimmer


6m54A Dent Kills Wertz (1:15)
James Newton Howard


6m54B Sonar System (3:24)
Hans Zimmer


6m54C Unlucky Driver (1:19)
James Newton Howard


6m55 v2.1 The Ferries (4:35)
Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman


6m56 v5.05 Always A Catch (2:43)
Hans Zimmer


6m57 v6 Storming Pruitt Building (3:52)
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe


7m58 v1.1 Give It To Me (3:44)
Hans Zimmer, Henry Jackman


7m59 v2 A Little Push (2:19)
Hans Zimmer


7m60A v7 Eye For An Eye (3:49)
James Newton Howard


7m60B Dent Defeated (0:36)
Hans Zimmer


7m61 v4 I'm Not A Hero (3:45)
Hans Zimmer


7m62 v5 A Dark Knight (0:37)
Hans Zimmer


EC End Credits (2:14)
Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe


Suite - The Joker Suite (11:12)
Hans Zimmer


Suite - Harvey Dent Suite v7 (10:22)
James Newton Howard


Suite - New Batman Theme v48.05 (19:45)
Hans Zimmer


Suite - 103BPM Action Ice Theme v7 (5:18) 
Hans Zimmer

If a longer cue was supposed to score the bulk of the chase, it would be between 4m41 and 4m42. However, there's nothing there between the short cues that appear briefly in the cue.

Posted

Iirc Zimmer made the claim in concert, before performing the piece.

It's on DVD (" Live in Prague?)

But, I could be mistaken 

Posted

"Like A Dog Chasing Cars" is my favorite Zimmer track! 

 

According to my last.fm I've listened to this track 530 times, lol! 

Posted

Whether it was written for the chase scene or not, it's a cool cue and works well with the visuals.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Stéphane Humez said:


The notes are all Hans, but when Hans usually focuses on doing his huge central suites (New Batman Theme or Joker here), I explained that he gets the team to take segments and adapt them for different situations.

103 BPM Action Ice is basically a lifting of the New Batman Theme in "Begins Batmobile Chase" mode (which was arranged by Lorne in the first place using the Begins Hero Theme). Pretty sure Hans got Lorne to do that.

Actually it's funny because when he initially wrote "Batman Chased" from Rises, with all that material, Lorne actually used the heroic segment from Action Ice / Storming Pruitt Building in his first versions of the cue. It was abandoned in the end (the final version wasn't even used as written in the film, it was butchered in music editing hell).


BTW, even if it's the HZ thread, but we're talking Batman, love love JNH in action mode :

 

 

 

I don't know why, it reminds me a lot of Blood Diamond or Salt. :mrgreen:

Wow, this stuff needs an official release. I haven't seen the film for so long, I forgot most of this is reused in Agent of Chaos on TDK OST.

Posted
19 minutes ago, Trope said:

Wow, this stuff needs an official release.

 

:(

I know right ? Everyone knows it, but if there was only ONE score left I could release, it would be Begins. I even have Hans & JNH with me !

Posted

Here's some rips of Eden's score from the end credits and maybe elsewhere

 

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Stéphane Humez said:

The notes are all Hans, but when Hans usually focuses on doing his huge central suites (New Batman Theme or Joker here), I explained that he gets the team to take segments and adapt them for different situations.

103 BPM Action Ice is basically a lifting of the New Batman Theme in "Begins Batmobile Chase" mode (which was arranged by Lorne in the first place using the Begins Hero Theme). Pretty sure Hans got Lorne to do that.

That is interesting to know. 

 

It feels like, for a while in the mid-to-late 2000s, Hans delegated a lot of stuff to LB. I'm not sure if I'm a fan of the notion of HZ letting someone else score some of the movie's pivotal action setpieces (such as the Batmobile chase and the final confrontation with the League in Begins and almost all of the action scenes in TDK), even if Lorne is working with and arranging material written by Zimmer and JNH.

 

And in scores like Angels & Demons and Sherlock Holmes 1 and 2, it seemed that Lorne was in almost every cue from start to finish :lol:. To the point where I wonder if he should've been credited as co-composer alongside Hans.

 

Since we're talking about their scores from the time: is "It's a Trap"/"Don't Think about Elephants" from Inception the work of Hans, Lorne, both of them or none of them? That cue is so good, it's in my top 5 HZ action cues of all time, but if Lorne did it, it might be his greatest action piece! But it does feel like something HZ wrote though.

Posted
14 hours ago, Jay said:

Here's some rips of Eden's score from the end credits and maybe elsewhere

 

 

love it! :) 

Posted
On 20/08/2025 at 12:01 PM, fenrik said:

"Like A Dog Chasing Cars" is my favorite Zimmer track! 

 

According to my last.fm I've listened to this track 530 times, lol! 

 

This is actually one of my go to workout Zimmer tracks.

Posted

" Music composed and supervised by Hans Zimmer"

 

I don't obsess over credits for each cue .... 😎

 

Btw When Morricone was writing twenty scores a year (! !) , one suspects he worked in a way very similar to HZ.

 

Go research it, Ed 😺🤣

Posted
On 26/08/2025 at 12:55 AM, Stéphane Humez said:

we recently talked to a composer (I won't say who cause it's for an upcoming release, and it's not HZ), but he exactly told us that the big drag for him was to handle big "10 min action cues", and therefore he delegated that to assistants to arrange mostly.

You enjoy teasing us too much! Now you've got me speculating on who it could be...

Posted
56 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

I don't obsess over credits for each cue .... 😎

 

It's not an obsession with silly irrelevant details. More like trying to understand how Zimmer's process works. How a film score is built, how it comes to life. How the "sausages are made", so to speak.

 

Learning that, I can appreciate a film score and Zimmer's work much better. It gives me a better understanding of how that score came to be. 

 

It's irrelevant to most here, but for me it's a fascinating research into how the music we hear in movies and albums is born.

Posted

It's okay to be obsessed.

I have had many obsessions  over a lifetime- some of them too embarrassing to admit ( like SW🥴)

 

You're motives are pure, Ed. But some here want to discredit HZ - no pun intended- by ' proving ' he doesn't write his scores .

 

 

Btw When did it become possible to research the breakdown for individual cues in a score?

 

Why is it even public info?

 

Fyi John Barry worked in a similar way on scores such as THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS and MURPHY'S WAR. He composed the themes but left much of the work to Ken Thorne who composed incidental music and arranged Barry's themes 

Posted

I have to say I'm in the minority in that I find The Dark Knight to have a much more organic sound compared to both Begins and Rises. 

Begins is indeed a perfect score for that film, and it's interesting that so much of it was tracked into Rises, replacing a ton of material that absolutely sounded like synth mockups, specifically the famous 'Batman Chased' cue. 

The ending is a melting pot of material from all three films and honestly works beautifully. The strings have such a passionate sound underscoring John Blake and the swarming bats, the renewed sense of hope in Gordon as he sees a new bat signal. (it's honestly just such a magical, beautiful moment) and when the pounding drums kick in (tracked from The Dark Knight and concludes with 'Fernet Branca', a synth demo-like version of it) leading into easily one of the best film edits in the trilogy - the end title opening is badass. A mix of the Begins / Dark Knight open, a bit of Rises, and then (very slight) remix of 'Backup' from Begins. 

 

It's a hell of a way to end the film. To this day it brings some tears. Nolan's Batman had a beautiful, positive end. 

Posted

Didn't know BB replaced alot of TDKR, which is my fave score of the three. Love the Bain and Selena Kyle themes!

 

Posted

To my ears, the vast majority of Batman-centric music was replaced with tracked in pieces from Begins. 

Posted

Some of his best music was also dropped from THIN RED LINE.

Thankfully they are preserved on cd

Posted
1 hour ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

I'm listening to Radio Flyer. When's that Hans Zimmer coming back?

Haven't ever heard of this film and just checked the trailer. It looks very interesting!

And you say the score is good?

Posted
52 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

Haven't ever heard of this film and just checked the trailer. It looks very interesting!

And you say the score is good?

 

Yes. Really delicate music, with some melancholy and adventure. It's simplistic as you might expect, but it's still an underrated one.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

 

Yes. Really delicate music, with some melancholy and adventure. It's simplistic as you might expect, but it's still an underrated one.

The film is darker than it seems.

And actually most of the dark stuff from the score was left out of the album to focus on the "adventure" part.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Stéphane Humez said:

The film is darker than it seems.

And actually most of the dark stuff from the score was left out of the album to focus on the "adventure" part.

 

Yeah I've never seen the film, but I'm aware of its darker themes of abuse and all that. No idea what else Zimmer created aside from what's on the album.

Posted
3 hours ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

I'm listening to Radio Flyer. When's that Hans Zimmer coming back?

I listened to the score and I agree with you.

It seems the younger Zimmer is more mature than his older self.

And I wouldn't call it that simplistic. 

One thing though: I prefer listening to individual short cues than longer suites. Anyway...

I will certainly watch the film too.

I wonder if Spielberg saw Mazzello in this film and hired him for Jurassic Park.

Posted

Radio Flyer is such an amazing score!! The movie is, as mentioned, quite dark. But the soundtrack feels like an escape from all that darkness which is also a big point in the movie. 

 

I too prefer listening to the cues by themselves instead of long suites (unless they flow really well). 
I have tried to split up the suites into cues (since we have cue titles in the suites, at least for some versions of the release), but I did that while going through the movie in order to put them chronologically, but it seems some of these titles are just random as they dont always match what's in the picture). So I gave up! lol! But the more I listen to the these 3 tracks the more I get used to them and they sound better and better together for each listen. 

 

But yes, I would totally love an expanded/complete edition of this! :D

Posted

Just picked up the OST so don't expand it too soon :P give me The Fan first!

Posted
5 hours ago, Mephariel said:

I prefer cues but there is nothing that bothers me more than an album full of 1 min cues. 

 

I agree with this as well! :D

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