Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - Isolated Score Track

[Davis 3,949]

17 hours ago, filmmusic said:

You haven't watched the film?

No and I don’t plan on watching it any time soon. The things I’ve seen and heard about it made me appreciate Crystal Skull. 

[King Mark 3,827]

will all have copies in North America including Canada have the iso score or you'll have to hunt down a hard to get, specific release of this.  

[Jay 42,355]

It's on the 4K disc and the BD disc, NOT the DVD disc.  That's all there is to it.

[Taikomochi 1,320]

4K blu rays are region free anyways

[crocodile 9,167]

21 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

Like HunterTech said, it wasn't a mistake on their end. Disney quickly pulled the intended 4K re-release at the last minute and decided to repack the original discs instead, for some unknown reason. Those 4K discs with the isolated score did however end up in the big 9-film boxset.

It's not on mine, only on the standard Blu-ray in this box.

 

Karol

[Jurassic Shark 14,938]

6 hours ago, JTW said:

No and I don’t plan on watching it any time soon. The things I’ve seen and heard about it made me appreciate Crystal Skull. 

 

I watched it on Sunday and was positively surprised. 

[A. A. Ron 2,257]

Yeah it’s not amazing or anything, but I like it better than Skull and I certainly don’t regret watching it unlike some other Lucasfilm movies.

[Damien F 1,897]

I see that Empire Magazine tweeted about the isolated score :

 

 

And I had to chuckle at this reply:

 

 

Don't EVEN go there, random internet person. If only it were that simple.

[A. A. Ron 2,257]

There’s always a bigger fish idiot.

[Ollie 1,284]

Well at least someone responded correctly. 

[Edmilson 10,433]

27 minutes ago, Damien F said:

And I had to chuckle at this reply:

 

 

[Yavar Moradi 3,542]

I know a lot of people hate The Last Jedi, and I kinda understand why (even though it's easily my favorite of the sequel trilogy, because it's the only movie that has a POINT to it rather than just being mostly superficial nostalgia bait).

 

But someone hating it so much that they consider the absolute mess known as The Rise of Skywalker to be superior? That I simply cannot wrap my head around.

 

19 hours ago, Damien F said:

I think TROS is a far worse film than TLJ and I don't even like TLJ too much.

 

I've been very late to the party but I've been catching up on The Clone Wars and Rebels before I watch Ahsoka. Some incredible storytelling in those shows. I keep thinking to myself where was this level of Star Wars writing in the sequel trilogy.

 

Where was that level of Star Wars writing in the prequel trilogy?  The Clone Wars had so much good stuff in it, I think it's singlehandedly responsible for making people look back more fondly on the prequels today. Just like how Cobra Kai somehow kinda redeems the terrible Karate Kid 3, through the power of association.

 

Yavar

[Brando 2,459]

43 minutes ago, Damien F said:

I see that Empire Magazine tweeted about the isolated score :

 

 

And I had to chuckle at this reply:

 

 

Don't EVEN go there, random internet person. If only it were that simple.

Did someone at least reply to him?

[ThePenitentMan1 1,292]

48 minutes ago, Brando said:

Did someone at least reply to him?

 

Right?!  Don't leave us hanging, guys!

[Jay 42,355]

52 minutes ago, Brando said:

Did someone at least reply to him?

 

1 hour ago, Ollie said:

Well at least someone responded correctly. 

 

 

 

[Manakin Skywalker 5,642]

2 hours ago, crocodile said:

It's not on mine, only on the standard Blu-ray in this box.

 

Karol

 

I've heard mixed reports about this. It seems that some of the boxes didn't include the isolated score for some reason.

 

Also did you check both the 4K and Blu-ray discs? I can't recall which one it's supposed to be on.

[Jay 42,355]

45 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

I've heard mixed reports about this. It seems that some of the boxes didn't include the isolated score for some reason.

 

Also did you check both the 4K and Blu-ray discs? I can't recall which one it's supposed to be on.

 

The Last Jedi isolated score is on the BD disc, NOT the 4K disc.  And only the 2020 version that came inside the Skywalker Saga box set, NOT on the original 2018 Last Jedi BD/4Ks.  I think the 2020 version inside the big box was supposed to be released separately as well, but that's the thing that never happened, at least not in the US.

[King Mark 3,827]

3 hours ago, Jay said:

It's on the 4K disc   That's all there is to it.

 

does my ps5 play this?

[crocodile 9,167]

12 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

The Last Jedi isolated score is on the BD disc, NOT the 4K disc.  And only the 2020 version that came inside the Skywalker Saga box set, NOT on the original 2018 Last Jedi BD/4Ks.  I think the 2020 version inside the big box was supposed to be released separately as well, but that's the thing that never happened, at least not in the US.

The UK/European reissue has isolated score on standard Blu-ray.

 

Just now, King Mark said:

 

does my ps5 play this?

Yes. 

 

Karol

[Brando 2,459]

2 minutes ago, King Mark said:

 

does my ps5 play this?

It should, yes, since it'll most likely be classified as an audio option while watching the film.

[Manakin Skywalker 5,642]

4 minutes ago, King Mark said:

does my ps5 play this?

 

PS5 and XSX/S support 4K Blu-ray yes, and by extent any of their audio tracks.

[BB-8 4,954]

2 hours ago, Damien F said:

I see that Empire Magazine tweeted about the isolated score :

 

 

And I had to chuckle at this reply:

 

 

Don't EVEN go there, random internet person. If only it were that simple.

Or as Disney would put it: Check out the soundtrack whereever you enjoy music...

[King Mark 3,827]

39 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

The Last Jedi isolated score is on the BD disc, NOT the 4K disc.  And only the 2020 version that came inside the Skywalker Saga box set, NOT on the original 2018 Last Jedi BD/4Ks.  I think the 2020 version inside the big box was supposed to be released separately as well, but that's the thing that never happened, at least not in the US.

 

 

That's what I meant when I was worried having to hunt down a specific disk release . I never found a TLJ copy with the iso score.

[Jurassic Shark 14,938]

Just buy the Skywalker Saga blu box. 

[King Mark 3,827]

is it still available

 

Never mind it's like 200$ and probably the "wrong" set

 

[Jurassic Shark 14,938]

I bought it on sale for $50.

[Jay 42,355]

11 minutes ago, King Mark said:

 

 

That's what I meant when I was worried having to hunt down a specific disk release . I never found a TLJ copy with the iso score.

 

Right, but that was different because Last Jedi came out in 2017, and its 2018 Blu Ray / 4K didn't have the iso score track, only iTunes/Movies Anywhere did.  LATER, in 2020, after TROS was a thing and they wanted to make a Saga box set, did they add the iso score to a physical release.

With DOD here now in 2023, this is the FIRST and only blu ray / 4K release of the film at all.  There is no other version to get confused by.

[King Mark 3,827]

I'm starting to believe this was really JW's last film score and this news brings a nice sense of closure. After the botched CD release that contains less than half of the music, at least we get an iso score to make acceptable fan edits of his last "big" blockbuster type score while we wait 15 years for the official expansion

[Edmilson 10,433]

35 minutes ago, King Mark said:

while we wait 15 years for the official expansion

ONLY 15 years for an Indiana Jones expansion? HAHAHAHAHAHA 

 

Get ready to wait at least 2 times that.

[Brando 2,459]

24 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Get ready to wait at least 2 times that.

Well it’s better than 3 times that🤷‍♂️😂

[Smeltington 1,748]

28 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

ONLY 15 years for an Indiana Jones expansion? HAHAHAHAHAHA 

 

Get ready to wait at least 2 times that.

 

King Mark was having an optimistic moment, don't ruin it!

[Drawgoon 118]

If the studio cares so much about JW's work on this film that they're offering a score-only track on the bluray, I can only wonder why they didn't go big with the album program before.

 

Perhaps, by putting the full score on the bluray - as a bonus audio track - instead of soundtrack album, they no longer needed to ask for JW's approval on what should be put in there and what shouldn't?

[Jurassic Shark 14,938]

1 minute ago, Drawgoon said:

If the studio cares so much about JW's work on this film that they are going out of their way and offering a score-only track on the bluray, I can only wonder why they didn't go big with the album program before.

 

What do you mean? They printed 1400 units!

[Drawgoon 118]

My point was the album program, i.e. the running time, selection of cues, etc, and why they didn't offer a longer album from the outset, even if it were to be limited to 1400 copies, or digital only.

[Archive Collection 218]

9 hours ago, Edmilson said:

ONLY 15 years for an Indiana Jones expansion?

 

To be fair... Raiders had its first expansion 14 years after its release!

[Damien F 1,897]

2 hours ago, Drawgoon said:

My point was the album program, i.e. the running time, selection of cues, etc, and why they didn't offer a longer album from the outset, even if it were to be limited to 1400 copies, or digital only.

 

The album is programmed by JW not the studios. He designs his albums around what he believes to be the best listening experience. That often means truncating or omitting cues. That's why there is over 10 minutes of unused space on the album. If JW wanted a two-CD OST, we would have had one.

[crocodile 9,167]

16 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

I've heard mixed reports about this. It seems that some of the boxes didn't include the isolated score for some reason.

 

Also did you check both the 4K and Blu-ray discs? I can't recall which one it's supposed to be on.

Checked not long ago. It's only on regular Blu-ray.

 

I would be really surprised if they included isolated score for DOD on 4K UHD disc. Bet it would be only 1080p version that has it. Disney never put any extras on UHD discs, not even commentaries.

 

EDIT: Oh wait, I suppose it does say it's included on both disc in the press release. Suppose it will make this a first.

 

Karol

[Manakin Skywalker 5,642]

If the rumors about Best Buy are true, then this steelbook is only going to be available for like 4 months tops.

 

 

[LB Makes Stuff 337]

Ehhhhhh I’m buying the Walmart Blu-Ray. Has a cool little doohickey with it to go along with the Holy Grail

[Laserschwert 571]

It's safe to assume the isolated score is micro-edited to death and contains constant dialogue ducking, no?

[crumbs 15,494]

2 minutes ago, Laserschwert said:

It's safe to assume the isolated score is micro-edited to death and contains constant dialogue ducking, no?

 

Microediting yes, volume fluctuations no. It should be the clean music stem out of Pro-tools, without the volume adjustments made during the mixing sessions.

 

As long as they at least consulted with Ramiro about it, there won't be an issue.

[Davis 3,949]

On 12/10/2023 at 10:37 AM, Drawgoon said:

If the studio cares so much about JW's work on this film that they're offering a score-only track on the bluray, I can only wonder why they didn't go big with the album program before.

THIS.

[Damien F 1,897]

3 hours ago, JTW said:

THIS.

 

On 12/10/2023 at 12:50 PM, Damien F said:

 

The album is programmed by JW not the studios. He designs his albums around what he believes to be the best listening experience. That often means truncating or omitting cues. That's why there is over 10 minutes of unused space on the album. If JW wanted a two-CD OST, we would have had one.

 

[Davis 3,949]

5 hours ago, Damien F said:

If JW wanted a two-CD OST, we would have had one.

Right now there’s not even a 1-CD OST available for international customers. 
Nor is there an isolated score track available for the first three Indiana Jones films on Blu-ray/4K Blu-ray.

[ciarlese 275]

55 minutes ago, JTW said:

Right now there’s not even a 1-CD OST available for international customers. 
Nor is there an isolated score track available for the first three Indiana Jones films on Blu-ray/4K Blu-ray.

 

Did you mean "four"?

[Davis 3,949]

40 minutes ago, ciarlese said:

 

Did you mean "four"?

I want the first three, but the fourth one should also exist before the fifth. 

[John F 100]

Can’t believe we are getting Williams last score and it being an Indians Jones one at that in complete form so quickly. So stoked to hear it. Love that it is also a kind of “greatest hits” score comprised of earlier Jones scores. Bring it on!

[Cameron1138 38]

1 hour ago, JTW said:

I want the first three, but the fourth one should also exist before the fifth. 

There's not an isolated score version of it, but we do have the complete recording sessions which is even better.

[Jay 42,355]

1 hour ago, John F said:

Can’t believe we are getting Williams last score and it being an Indians Jones one at that in complete form so quickly.

 

To be clear so nobody has any false expectations, this is not a release of the complete score, it's simply the final edited version of the score as heard in the final cut of the film.

 

There is already plenty of music on the OST album that isn't in the film, and there's clear evidence of lots of alternates existing that aren't available anywhere, plus there's no way to know how much the cues used in the film are shortened via editing as well

[Tom 5,590]

I know nothing about these sort of technical matters, but how much extra work is need to do the isolated score?  It strikes me as an inexpensive feature that should be part of most releases.  Is it a perceived lack of audience interest that prevents it?  

 

Lucas is always talking about SW as silent movies carried by visuals and the score.  Why not make this a feature in future releases of SW--at least give us that for the scores?