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David Newman's SERENITY (2005) - NEW! 2023 Varese Sarabande 2-CD Deluxe Edition


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I’ve noticed that Varese tends to have their own logo on CDs, so I’m not surprised they would be quick to use other art. If it makes it easier to release the music, who am I to complain?

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1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said:

 

Especially surprising positive comment from the self-described "Master of Negativity / Professional Nitpicker"! ;) How is it great to make Serenity look like King of the Hill? I think it's just bizarre. But... it's the music that counts!

 

 

 

Yavar

I think it might be sarcasm? Note the lowercase and lack of punctuation.

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Sorry, guys, I like this cover. 
As much as I like Summer Glau and her body, it would have been just another film cover art, and the original poster art isn’t anything special. I would have been totally fine with it as well, but this is something original for a change. Again, sorry for liking it. 
 

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Mentioned this in the Varese thread, but I've ordered this.

We finally have the "Haven Guitar" cue clean of SFX.

 

I don't know of anything else that was missing tbh.

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1 hour ago, pete said:

Who are the people on the cover?

 

L-R: Jayne, Book, Inara, Mal, Zoe, River.

 

Where TF are Wash and Simon???

 

My God, that has to be one of THE worst covers I have EVER seen. 

 

Still pre-ordering it. :)

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14 minutes ago, Drawgoon said:

I don't know the film at all, but it won't surprise me if this turned out to be a... "cartoonzed" image of a particular scene from the film.

 

I do know the film. Based on the costumes, this would've been from the first action sequence, but there are no shots or scenes like this.

It's likely just an artist creating a unique composition based off some various different images perhaps.

 

I don't mind it. I mean, it's not remotely in keeping with the style or tone of the film, but eh. It's fine.

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One thing I just thought of; this score was recorded with the Hollywood Studio Symphony. It's a late 2005 score. Doesn't that mean it should be subject to AFM reuse fees?

Or does Varese having perpetuity rights (do they have them for this score?) mean that those fees don't apply?

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28 minutes ago, Thor said:

The cover is a bit odd, but it's also very much in line with boutique vinyl releases these days, like Mondo, completely rethinking the graphic design and often in an 'animated' style. Yes, I know it's a CD and not an LP and yes, I know it's probably because there were some rights issues involved rather than visionary thinking, but it isn't that bad in and of itself, is it? I kinda like it.


yeah exactly. It’s fine. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Well, thankfully Kaylee, Wash and Simon are on the back of the booklet. 

 

And oh my goodness, that booklet. Apologies to Daniel Schweiger if you're here, but oh dear those were very poorly written and edited liner notes. Poor grammar, punctuation errors, missing words, poorly worded sentences, the word "the" in front of almost every mention of the ship, and just flat-out mistakes (Nathan Fillion was a former co-star of Buffy? He wasn't on Buffy until 2003, well after the 2002 debut of Firefly). Do editors or proofreader actually exist in this world anymore, or are we all just relying on autocorrect for everything now? 

 

I pray that the actual music presentation on the CDs isn't as messed up as most everything else with this release has been. 

 

Sorry to be so negative about this release. I love the movie, it's score, the TV show and everything, which is why it's so frustrating seeing such poor quality on this release. 

 

Still, I always smile when I see familiar names on trumpet in the orchestra lineups. 🎺

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Honestly, same. I like the movie well enough though.

 

Also, I want to know why the track "Into the River" from the OST and the bootlegs is called "Intro to River" here. Was the title wrong on the previous album? Or did they bungle the title of the very first track on this new release?

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24 minutes ago, Trope said:

(I'm definitely not still salty about them bungling Powell's Bourne Identity expansion.)

 

I'm salty about that one too, but it was Powell's own studio who produced that expansion for Varese, so not really the label's fault.

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So these posts have made me decide to double check some things on the release, since I do seem to recall hearing that their deluxe for The Crow was basically just the bootleg officially pressed (which I'm guessing doesn't reflect the music in-film much if people used to think it was fake).

 

Haven Guitar was noted as the one omission from the various bootlegs, so that was a no brainer in checking if they accidentally included a DVD rip of it, and I can thankfully confirm that it is clean (if definitely unedited compared to how it appears in-film). I imagine no one was going to have this particular concern, but with the implication of these posts that they're becoming increasingly lazy, I might as well address this one anyway.

 

2 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

Also, I want to know why the track "Into the River" from the OST and the bootlegs is called "Intro to River" here. Was the title wrong on the previous album? Or did they bungle the title of the very first track on this new release?


As for this one, it appears that just is what the track is titled on the cue list proper (1m1 Opening/Intro To River). I did notice on the Ice Age OST that Newman only renamed one or two cues from how they appeared on the sheets, so your call on if they should've kept the OST title for consistency between albums.

 

The liner notes are strange though. I'm not about to scare another label producer off the site by @ing BryonDavis in this post, but I suppose it doesn't hurt to ask him about it if you're that invested (even if I suspect the negativity so far would be off putting anyway).

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5 minutes ago, HunterTech said:

so your call on if they should've kept the OST title for consistency between albums.

If it's the same take or same edit of the same takes then technically they have to have the same name because of licensing shit. But apparently only Mike bothers to impose such restrictions upon his own workflow (that's where things like a cue being named (extended version) or (film version) without any other version being present on the set come from, the name without these brackets is already taken by the OST take/edit), it doesn't matter for other people.

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6 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

Also, I want to know why the track "Into the River" from the OST and the bootlegs is called "Intro to River" here. Was the title wrong on the previous album? Or did they bungle the title of the very first track on this new release?

 

Wow, I never noticed that on the OST! 

 

I would guess "Intro" is correct, despite what the cue list has it as. In terms of the film it's during our introduction to River. And I can't recall anyone or anything going into a river at any point in the film. I've seen other instances of cue sheets and sheet music having misspellings. None spring to mind of course (thanks, brain), but I swear I've even seen at least one JW cue where I think a character's name is misspelled. 

 

I'm relieved to hear the "Haven Guitar" track on this release was not a DVD rip. Thanks for checking that! 

 

I wouldn't mind being hired as a proofreader, I'd do a damn sight better than a lot of them. If they're even actually proofread. I read a "Doctor Who" original novel from circa Space Year 2000, and holy geez that thing had an error at least every 2 to 3 pages. It was so frustrating to read. 

 

(Edited to add a "y" to "ever" in the next to last sentence. Took me literally only a second or two to notice it once I posted it. Did I spell it wrong? Did autocorrect do it? Well, my autocorrect has been insisting "cue" should be capitalized every dang time, so who knows. But see how fast and easy it was to catch a simple error like that? 😁 ) 

 

(Edited again to add, well my first sentence in this reply shows I ain't perfect... D'oh!) 

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Alright. Well. I tried to put together a spreadsheet (which I am still continuing to tweak) to organize my thoughts, but it's all a bit confusing...

 

When speaking about what we had before this expansion (outside of the OST) it's an utter mess. However it was put together, it was done very clumsily. Which is unfortunate because clearly there was access to certain material that was not available anywhere else, though not all of it.

 

The prior version(s) have a couple clean openings and endings in certain areas, as well as extended silences between some cues (allowing them to be split). There's even one track that seems to be an OST version, but clearly has extra orchestra noise that abruptly cuts on and lasts a fair bit longer than any noise you hear on the OST itself). However, some cues are just OST edits or mixes...and some are even edits of the OST edits. With all that in mind, the prior version(s) were also labeled and organized horrendously - made up cue titles, incorrect order (which leads to flat out inaccurate titles), and mislabeling things as alternates or even unused that are simply OST edits or mixes. Like I said... a mess. Maybe it originated from some sessions, maybe a promo or something, who knows. I personally have never seen an "original" version that wasn't tampered with in some way.

 

So, what do we gain here with the Varese deluxe edition? Mainly, an extra cue (Disc 1, Track 21 "Haven Guitar") plus seemingly increased dynamics and better sound, not to mention having everything properly organized and titled (with exception to some very slight tweaks of the original titles here and there). So, to me, the gain is nice - this is a definitive presentation of this score and I think there's quite a few pieces left off the OST that deserve to be heard.

 

So what's missing / what's the trade-off? Well, my biggest pet peeve with the set...some cross-fading and tracks bleeding into one another. I can understand doing it when it is done in the film - many of the tracks during the big climax of the film are really meant to go together (but at that point, why not just put them in one track rather than have awkward track splits?).

 

However, there are definitely areas where crossfades are present here where the cues are clearly separated in the film.

None of these crossfades are present in the previous material that was available.

CROSSFADES:

  • 1-02 "Escape" and 1-03 "The Operative" have a 25 second gap between them in the film, yet Track 2 crossfades into Track 3.
  • 1-04 "Death of Mathias" and 1-05 "Serenity" have a 10 second gap between them in the film, yet they're crossfaded together here.
  • 1-15 "Mal Takes River In" and 1-16 "River’s Eyes" have over a minute long gap between them in the film, yet they're crossfaded here.
  • 1-19 "Subliminal Message" and 1-20 "River & Simon In Locker" have over a minute long gap between them in the film, yet they're crossfaded here.

  • 1-23 "School Flashback" and 1-24 "Mal & Inara" aren't crossfaded, but have a poor track split. There's a full 2 seconds of silence at the end of 1-23 before the opening of 1-24 begins before the track ends.

  • 2-03 "Truth / Mal's Speech" and 2-04 "Universe Gets It" actually do overlap in the film, but are separate here.

 

CLEAN OPENS & ENDS:

  • Clean Ending for 1M2 "The Escape" can be found on both the OST and the Boot
  • Clean Open for 1M3 "The Operative" can be found on the Boot
  • Clean Ending for 1M3A "Death of Mathias" can be found on the Boot
  • Clean Open for  1M4 "Serenity" can be found on both the OST and the Boot
  • Clean Ending for 2M7 "Trading Station Robbery, Part I" can be found on the Boot
  • Clean Open for 2M7A "Trading Station Robbery, Part II" can be found on the Boot
  • Clean Ending for 2M7A "Trading Station Robbery, Part II" can be found on both the OST and the Boot
  • Clean Ending for 2M18 "Mal Takes River In/Operative Ship" can be found on the Boot
  • Clean Open for 2M19 "River's Eyes" can be found on the Boot
  • Clean Ending for 3M21 "Subliminal Message" can be found on the Boot
  • Clean Open and Ending for 3M22 "River and Simon in Locker/Miranda" can be found on both the OST and the Boot
  • Clean Open for 5M43 "Space Battle" can be found on both the OST and the Boot
  • Clean Ending for 5M45 "Wash Killed/Run To Black Room" can be found on the OST
  • Clean Open for 6M58 "Broadcast Beams/River Is Alive" can be found on the Boot
  • A Clean Ending for part of 6M58  "Broadcast Beams/River Is Alive" can be found on both the OST and the Boot, though it may have been made in editing for the OST.
  • Clean Open for 6M59 "Funeral/Rebuilding Serenity" can be found on both the OST and the Boot

 

As far as anything that is missing (film versions, extra cues, etc.):

NOTABLE FILM VERSIONS / EDITS:

  • 1M3 "The Operative" (Disc 1, Track 3) in the film, is a fair bit shorter (20 seconds or so). It was likely edited down using the stems (but might be accomplished without them).
  • 2M12 "Mal Reminisces/Land at Beaumonde" (Disc 1, Track 11) in the film, tracks over the opening half of the cue with a bit of 6M60 "Prep for Flight", though the music stems would've probably been used to fully make this work.
  • 3M22 "River and Simon in Locker/Miranda" (Disc 1, Track 20) in the film, tracks the final bass drum hit to occur again earlier in the cue, stems may not have been needed for this one, but were likely used.
  • 3M29 "Training House Fight" (Disc 1, Track 26) in the film, is artificially split into two parts utilizing the music stems, dialing out at about 1:30, before coming back in again around 1:41.
  • 4M37 "Warn Everyone" (Disc 1, Track 33) in the film, dials out the last two chords, ending early with (I assume) a faked ending - this one is doable with what's present here.
  • 4M38 "You’re Not A Reaver" (Disc 1, Track 34) in the film, seems to track guitar from later in the cue over the opening (so the cue starts with guitar). The music stems would've been used for this one.

MISSING TRACKS:

  • "Fruity Oaty Bar" by Mark Brooks & Peter Gilstrap (Can be found on home media release bonus features)
  • "Firefly Main Title (Acoustic Instrumental Version)" by Joss Whedon (Can be found in the end of the credits)

OST VERSIONS:

  • "Truth / Mal's Speech" is edited on the OST (and the Bootleg)
  • "Jayne & Zoe / Final Battle" is a condensed edit of 6M55 & 6M58
  • "Funeral / Rebuilding Serenity" is the "as recorded" version of 6M59. The strings present on the deluxe are actually the ending of 6M58, meant to crossfade into 6M59.
  • There also appears to be some slight mixing differences at times, for example "Going for a Ride" and "Generator Room" has noticeably more reverb.

 

And of course Disc 2, Tracks 18 and 19 are not used in the film, but were used plenty on the films bonus features.

In the film, the credits include:

  • 6M62 "End Credits"
  • 1M5 "Going For A Ride"
  • 6M59 "Funeral/Rebuilding Serenity"
  • "Firefly Main Title (Acoustic Instrumental Version)" by Joss Whedon

Hope this helps a bit.

 

EDIT: Added clean opens and ends

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  • 3 weeks later...
On 13/12/2023 at 9:44 AM, A. A. Ron said:

Whipped up my own cover for this album this morning. I believe the art I used was technically made for the show, but I think it works just as well for the movie.

 

Serenity Revised.png

 

For anyone who may have been using this cover, I've updated the above post with a cleaner, freshly made version. On the original, I had extended the star field manually in Gimp, literally painting in the extra stars myself. This time, I used the built-in AI in Photoshop to do the extension, getting much better results.

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On 18/12/2023 at 10:59 AM, TSMefford said:

"Firefly Main Title (Acoustic Instrumental Version)" by Joss Whedon (Can be found in the end of the credits)

 

Awwwww!

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  • 3 weeks later...

At the risk of being "that guy", has anyone else received their copy with a disc missing? Mine had no disc 2! I have emailed Intrada, from whom I purchased it, but presumably I'll need to contact Varese at some point. Very strange! Looking forward to this one (although I remember it not quite being the quasi-Star Trek of Galaxy Quest that I hoped for when it was first announced Newman was scoring it).

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