John Powell's HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON: THE HIDDEN WORLD (2019) - 2024 Varese Deluxe Edition

[The Score Cleaner 9,188]

Hidden World DE is coming out early 2024 according Powell's newest Insta story.

 

https://instagram.com/stories/johnj_powell/2802661935777211650

[scallenger 657]

Well, Hidden World is for sure coming now... but in early 2024. And from one of his replies in the comments, this includes the release of the printed sheet music score.

 

https://www.facebook.com/1689850014571627/posts/3095325250690756/?sfnsn=mo

[Tom Guernsey 3,479]

8 minutes ago, scallenger said:

Well, Hidden World is for sure coming now... but in early 2024. And from one of his replies in the comments, this includes the release of the printed sheet music score.

 

https://www.facebook.com/1689850014571627/posts/3095325250690756/?sfnsn=mo

If LLL or Intrada gave us two years notice of a release there’d be a riot ;-).  

[Edmilson 11,381]

I can't wait until 2024 to have the complete scores for the whole trilogy!

[A. A. Ron 2,407]

What an oddly specific time table. If 4 years is how long it takes to expand a John Powell trilogy, he better give us The Bourne Identity soon!

[Arpy 4,229]

2024 will be six years after the release of The Hidden World. It's been eight years since How to Train Your Dragon 2, and twelve years since the first film. Where did all the years go?

[Jurassic Shark 15,876]

Nerding on a soundtrack forum?

[crumbs 15,853]

I really appreciate Powell's transparency about the release date of Dragon 3, actually!

 

If Disney Records came out and said, "we're working on Star Wars expansions, but they won't be out until 2024," I'd be totally fine with that.

 

The part that sucks is simply not knowing if they're even working on them.

[Tom Guernsey 3,479]

41 minutes ago, crypto said:

I really appreciate Powell's transparency about the release date of Dragon 3, actually!

 

If Disney Records came out and said, "we're working on Star Wars expansions, but they won't be out until 2024," I'd be totally fine with that.

 

The part that sucks is simply not knowing if they're even working on them.

Fair comment! I think it’s just the realisation that it’s not next year but the year after which makes it seems so distant. Let’s face it, if he’d announced HTTYD2 two years ago, I doubt we’d have all expected a worldwide pandemic and land war in Europe to have happened in the gap. Hope the two years until 2024 are better all round lol. 

[greenturnedblue 375]

John Powell reveals on his Instagram story that How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World Deluxe Edition coming Early 2024

[Jay 44,701]

Nice, 11-13 months to go then

[scallenger 657]

[Tallguy 6,571]

Tw-- Twenty-FOUR?!?

[crocodile 9,480]

Well, he did say that before. Do you think it is because of the 5th anniversary?

 

Karol

[Richard P 5,060]

A year away is a long time for this, although tbh I'm not rushing away from the excellent album presentation - it doesn't feel like there's much to add in terms of missing music or improved sound quality.

[Jay 44,701]

33 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

Tw-- Twenty-FOUR?!?

 

We've known that it was coming in early 2024 since Powell told us so 11 months ago via Facebook and Instagram.  

 

The March 2022 Facebook post: https://www.facebook.com/johnpowellmusic/posts/pfbid037yPxkE89dDBXxzzC4x56utqJaeAs5u7kXYkk5yPTnmKSTZ5hJA1gJv8TW35C2jQrl

[Tom Guernsey 3,479]

8 hours ago, Richard Penna said:

A year away is a long time for this, although tbh I'm not rushing away from the excellent album presentation - it doesn't feel like there's much to add in terms of missing music or improved sound quality.

That i  perhaps the most consoling thing, there isn’t actually a lot missing from the original soundtrack, so I think the additions will be a little bit more marginal, but that doesn’t mean I want it any less, of course! And the mixing on the third score is indeed much more natural, so I don’t think there’s quite so many tweaks to make it that regard.

[Tallguy 6,571]

OK. I have seriously underestimated this score. It's still my least favorite of the three. It relies too much on the first score, more than the second one did. Good grief, it IS Return of the Jedi.

 

But wow are the strong parts so strong. I have held Third Date in terrifically high esteem for a long time. But I can't believe that I haven't really thought much about the track The Hidden World. There is some stuff that is so big, not just in terms of orchestra or choir, but just the musical idea is so big that I almost can't absorb it.

 

Maybe that's a problem when put together with the whole score. The 3 material meshes very well with 2 but less so with 1. OTOH, there are some fantastic reprises of material from 2.

 

I hadn't really thought of it, but I don't think there is anything from a previous film that I liked better when it was recalled in a later film. 1 doesn't sound better in 2 and 3. I'm not sure 2 sounds better in 3. Unlike, say, uses of themes in the later Star Wars films that I like better than in the film they originally came from.

 

I might have to dig into this and see if I really mean this. I know there are quotes of themes where I'm just excited that they are there. But it's not like "I can't wait to hear this version of Forbidden Friendship from 3!" Or Astrid's theme. I don't think. Oh darn. More listening to Dragons music.

[The Score Cleaner 9,188]

Everything sounds better in 2. 1 sounds kinda dry in comparison to the later 2.

[Tom Guernsey 3,479]

[Tallguy 6,571]

My daughter has that poster in her room.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,627]

That's too long... I whish he wrongly typed 2024 instead of 2023

[Jay 44,701]

It takes a long time to make those Omni books happen.  The audio work is probably done already.  But it makes sense to release both at once.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,627]

Sure

[The Score Cleaner 9,188]

 

The work on the Deluxe Edition album and the full score book of How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World has started!

Nearly 2 hours of music will be released on 2 CDs, including 6 demos!

Coming from Varese Sarabande Records & 5 Cat Studios

Just like in the previous books, the Full Score Book will match the movie note by note!

Coming from Omni Music Publishing & 5 Cat Studios

[Knight of Ren 1,402]

I absolutely love that Powell himself is making sure to release not only extended editions of his own scores, but the full book scores as well! It really shows he cares about his own work, and it's such a gift for us fans, because otherwise we would have to wait years or even decades to get these officially.

[Edmilson 11,381]

Oh my gosh, 2 hours of John Powell's masterful music for one of my favorite animated scores ever... 

 

I don't think I'll be able to wait until next year!

 

[A. A. Ron 2,407]

In the meantime, give us Mr. & Mrs. Smith!

[crumbs 15,853]

I love how passionate Powell's become about expansions in the last few years. Also the way he embraces the fan community and responds to questions.

 

If only all composers shared his enthusiasm for expansions!

[Tom Guernsey 3,479]

18 hours ago, A Farewell to Kings said:

Can’t wait. Obviously! Must admit that I didn’t think there was that much music missing from this one. Certainly not enough to make it to two hours. Guess the demos plus any alternates add to whatever cues don’t feature on the OST. 

[Jay 44,701]

5 Cat Studios' website has revealed that Varese's CD edition will have a 2-month exclusive window before the expanded edition shows up on digital stores/streamers

 

February 23, 2024
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (Deluxe Edition) [CD]

April 26, 2024
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (Deluxe Edition) [Digital]

 

https://5catstudios.com/listen

[crocodile 9,480]

Cannot wait for this. I was actually thinking about it the other day. Glad to see it's finally confirmed, and only months away.

 

Karol

[Jay 44,701]

What do you mean by finally confirmed?  He's posted about it coming three times now, first in March 2022, then February 2023, then April 2023. 

[Richard P 5,060]

February doesn't quite seem the eternity away that it did when it was first announced.

 

I still think having a physical exclusive period is wrong though.

[Jay 44,701]

10 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

February doesn't quite seem the eternity away that it did when it was first announced.

 

Yes it's pretty wild that it was announced 23 months before release date

 

10 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

I still think having a physical exclusive period is wrong though.

 

What!? It's IDEAL!  The specialty labels need every help they can get just to stay in business my friend.

[Tallguy 6,571]

I don't have either of the other two and both are absolute faves. What is the aftermarket looking like on those if I buy this and want to fix my collection?

[Incanus 5,884]

36 minutes ago, crocodile said:

Cannot wait for this. I was actually thinking about it the other day. Glad to see it's finally confirmed, and only months away.

 

Karol

Ditto! It's great to have the entire Powell's magnum opus, the How to Train Your Dragon trilogy, in full form soon.  

[filip 63]

  

13 minutes ago, Jay said:

What!? It's IDEAL!  The specialty labels need every help they can get just to stay in business my friend.

I'm okay with it as long as it's announced up front (and preferably also loud and clear on CD order page) that it WILL get digital release.

Seeing several expansions go digital a proverbial day after I got the CDs (without catching wind of a digital release coming) only made me triple think before placing that order now.

 

With that said, HTTYD3 DE is a preorder. And if the digital is also hirez, that's a double dip. (Well, triple after the initial OST. Or did I also grab that digital..?)

I hope the extras are better than the few demo tracks that seemed like final versions but synth...

[Richard P 5,060]

1 hour ago, filip said:

 I hope the extras are better than the few demo tracks that seemed like final versions but synth...

 

For a set of scores that appear to have little alternate material (just one or two alternates for each score), what are you hoping they'll add apart from demo material? If Powell didn't need to revise much, there's nothing to add...

 

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It's great that all three are coming from Varese in a nice collectible series (as especially as I never got the first one's OST on CD), but I'm really skeptical that Varese particularly needs a period of exclusivity to make good returns, considering their primary market basically pleads for CD releases.

 

And my usual grumbling about having to wait for the CD to cross the pond. I feel there are other releases for which they can focus on physical sales - this is modern and ideally would be available as/when the consumer wants. Just my 2 cents.

[filip 63]

17 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

For a set of scores that appear to have little alternate material (just one or two alternates for each score), what are you hoping they'll add apart from demo material? If Powell didn't need to revise much, there's nothing to add...

 

I don't know. Early sketches? Choirless versions of select tracks (don't know how much that would cost)? Or more than 6 of those final synth versions? (I would presume those don't cost them anything... Fill the discs up.)

 

Edit:

Did the specials not have any original music? (Gift of the Night Fury, Boneknapper...) I know Homecoming got a digital release... heck, why not include that on CD...

[Edmilson 11,381]

I absolutely LOVE this score. The other two are also amazing, but the third one hits me right in the feels. Can't wait for the expansion!

[crocodile 9,480]

3 hours ago, Jay said:

What do you mean by finally confirmed?  He's posted about it coming three times now, first in March 2022, then February 2023, then April 2023. 

Oh yes, but we didn't have exact date. 

 

Karol

[Jay 44,701]

Sure we did.

[A. A. Ron 2,407]

3 hours ago, Tallguy said:

I don't have either of the other two and both are absolute faves. What is the aftermarket looking like on those if I buy this and want to fix my collection?

They’re running about $70 each right now.

[filip 63]

If you're talking about the HTTYD DEs, isn't it likely that they will be back whenever Varese finishes their move? Unless they really sold everything out in the most recent sale...

 

The first one is 35EUR on MBR.

[Tallguy 6,571]

6 minutes ago, filip said:

If you're talking about the HTTYD DEs, isn't it likely that they will be back whenever Varese finishes their move? Unless they really sold everything out in the most recent sale...

 

The first one is 35EUR on MBR.

 

I had thought they sold out. Apparently not.

[Jay 44,701]

The physical CD editions of the Deluxe Editions for 1 and 2 are sold out, however retailers could still have stock they haven't sold yet.

 

If you're interested in having the trilogy physically, I'd buy 1 and 2 now before they get too pricey.

[filip 63]

I see. Nevermind my comment inspired by the warehouse move then... I could swear they were both still available in that last sale.

[Jay 44,701]

Coming soon!
5 Cat Studios & Omni Music Publishing proudly present the final score book of the “How to Train Your Dragon” trilogy: The Hidden World!
Pre-orders start on January 23. The full score book is available on February 23 🎶
Produced by Batu Sener & Tim Rodier

#johnpowell #scorebook #httyd @httydragon @batusener
 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C1r0tP-OxoO/

[Davis 3,957]

CD coming soon as well?