Yoda Longbottom 0 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Which John Williams' score(s) is, in your opinion, better than a movie it's written for?In my opinion they are:Amistad, Seven Years in Tibet, Sabrina, Jaws 2, Accidental Tourist, Hook.Roman.-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Why is this thread in "Other Topics"?The list is good. But add TPM to complete it. 1941 would also feel at home there.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stoneand perhaps not so much better, but surely bigger:The Empire Strikes Back- Marc John Williams - Roy's First Encounter from Close Encounters of the Third Kind (CE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Superman: The Movie, and Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 A.I., the Fury, Home Alone 2, Hook, LC, Dracula, Monsignor, Lost World, Patriot.conversely, the films that were better than the scores are SPR, Schindler's List, AOTC, MR, Amistad, ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molaram 0 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 The first Harry Potter movie. The score was so much better than the movie, that it made the movie look ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 the FuryLuckily Neil is the moderator of this board and will now certainly ban you for this heresy.Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 I think this thread might have to be changed to "Which movie is better than the score". As it seems that in terms of JW, there is a much shorter list involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jango Fett 0 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 I'm thinking about oliver stone's JFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Which facial make-up was better than the movie?Which editing was better than the movie?I'm still not sure if you can compare music with film. I never it like when someone says that the book is so much better than the movie either.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 JoeinAr wrote:the FuryLuckily Neil is the moderator of this board and will now certainly ban you for this heresy. Marian - but Marian, I am saying the score for the Fury is better than the film, how can it not be.Joe, who has seen the Fury 2-1/2 times since 1978. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Joe, who has seen the Fury 2-1/2 times since 1978.Hmmm...I only saw 10 minutes ot it, more then enough to convince myself that it is utter crap.DePalma is such an overrated hack, his only halfway decent film is Bonfire Of The Vanities.Stefancos- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Stefancos, Stefancos, you've just unmasked yourself. Bonfire of the Vanities is known as one of the biggest turkeys in the history of cinema. And you know something? It IS a turkey! ----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 I agree, Stefan. I think that DePalma is very overrated, though I think the Untouchables is an oustanding movie, the only one he's made I would say.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 The Fury has very beautiful slow motion scenes with no sound other than Williams' score. DePalma really gives Williams alot of space and the chance to stand out. But other than that, I must confess, he's overrated.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 DePalma is a master. Check out Dressed to Kill and Blow Out. The Untouchables is one of my favorite films of all time.And The Fury (both film and score) are top class works.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 but Marian, I am saying the score for the Fury is better than the film, how can it not be.It's about twice as good in the movie as it is on CD. So there must be something very good about the movie. DePalma is such an overrated hack, his only halfway decent film is Bonfire Of The Vanities.De Palma is one of the greatest masters of cinema and extremely underrated. And Bonfire is one of the few of his movies which I don't care about very much.Marian - suggesting that Stefan should watch Carlito's Way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 I agree with Neil, he's an outstanding director.I love Body Double, Blow Out, Dressed To Kill and The Untouchables.His visual style is ALWAYS worthwhile and he has worken with some good composers who did outstanding work for him (not M2M though).Stefancos- who thought Snake Eyes was underrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 DePalma's best films use Pino Donnagio as composerCarrie, and Dress to Kill, everything else are lesser efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 I agree with Neil, he's an outstanding director.I love Body Double, Blow Out, Dressed To Kill and The Untouchables.His visual style is ALWAYS worthwhile and he has worken with some good composers who did outstanding work for him (not M2M though).Stefancos- who thought Snake Eyes was underratedMaybe it's just me but are there two Stefancosses? Why the sudden swing?----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman20 0 Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 The Cradle of Life Score by Alan Silvestri.A must have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman20 0 Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 But seeing as you wanted a JW score that's better than the movie, I'd have to go with ET and the Phantom Menace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 But seeing as you wanted a JW score that's better than the movie, I'd have to go with ET and the Phantom Menace. E.T. and its score are flawless! (TPM I can agree with).I know it's not JW, but James Newton Howard's Waterworld was much better than the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Most of you guys named the obvious ones. Hook and TPM might stand out here... but IMO, most Williams scores are better than the movies they were scored for. Joe also pointed out a few of the films that were better than the scores, I'd have to agree on most of them.Although... watch The Fury when Williams' intense music is playing. The telepathic scenes and the slow-motion scenes. It's more of a music video than a movie. I LOVE that about that movie! Lucas could learn ALOT by watching The Fury, CE3K, E.T., and A.I. and see how the music was flawless with the scenes, wherase he ruins those effects by tinkering with the music far too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin McCallister 0 Posted September 7, 2003 Share Posted September 7, 2003 Here are mine (including non-Williams scores)HookIndiana Jones And The Temple Of DoomBatmanBatman ReturnsHome Alone 2Josh and S.A.M.The Lost WorldThe Phantom MenaceA.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 All of them except:Raiders of the Lost ArkThe Empire Strikes BackStar Wars: A New HopeSaving Private RyanIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeClose Encounters of the Third KindJAWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIEfighter 0 Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 DePalma is overrated as well as (IMO) Kubrick was, but that´s probably just my opinion. Kubrick made many "new" things, which were great, but most of the time the rest of his movies were too slow to me to make my satisfied - 2001, on the other hand, is really goodScorsese is also a person that´s overrated IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Scorsese is also a person that´s overrated IMO.OK, Gangs of New York wasn't his best. We all know. Some of the movies he made are really good (Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino). In their genre they are quite hard to beat. Maybe you don't like his typical Scorsese style but, when in form, you will find it hard to pinpoint what it is exactly that is supposedly not good. Try saying that the acting is bad, or that the dialoque is poorly written, or that the camerawork or the editing is clumsy. On the contrary, technically his films are a delight to watch, on all fronts. But it is his streetwise ganster atmosphere that is unparalleled. Like all directors with a vast repertoire you'll find that not everything they touch always turns to gold.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridan 0 Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 all of them, but not because the films themselves are bad, but because the music is always excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Err, what?----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 OK, Gangs of New York wasn't his best. We all know. .----------------Alex CremersMan that was one boring movie.I"ts one of the rare instances I turned it off halfway because I didn't give a crap what happened next.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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