Jurassic World Rebirth (2025, Gareth Edwards / David Koepp)

[Mr. Hooper 4,595]

2 hours ago, Edmilson said:

I'm not sure I'd call it a reboot.

A "reset/refresh" then, which would ask us to forget the previous rubbish entries in the series.

 

29 minutes ago, ManofDestiny said:

Dinosaurs in Space.

No one can hear you scream.

 

They eventually sent Jason Voorhees into space, so why not dinosaurs. lol

 

[Paul M. Grenon 42]

34 minutes ago, Tom said:

I appreciate your optimism.  

Thanks!

[Gabriel Bezerra 550]

7 hours ago, ManofDestiny said:

Dinosaurs in Space.

No one can hear you scream.

That's a Star Trek Voyager episode

[jackfiszr 18]

On 27/01/2025 at 3:37 PM, Pieter Boelen said:

Oooh yes, more Lost World theme, YES PLEASE!!

That is SUCH an underrated and underused piece! 

I'd love some good variations on that.

 

Continuing on the subject of underrated Lost World music, it's a real bummer that "The Hunt" wasn't used anywhere. It's such a great piece—practically a theme in its own right. Unfortunately, it's very unlikely that it will ever be used .

[badbu 160]

Lost World is one of my fav from him! 

[Miz 145]

The idea of this unimaginative, stand-alone monster feature having anything to do with the granduer of the first film, or John Williams' scores, is pretty thin.

 

I thought they could lean into the 'dinosaurs everywhere', examining our relationship with nature etc. philosophising that has slowly evaporated from the series. Alas no.

[Edmilson 10,103]

"Yeah, but people running from angry dinosaurs trying to eat them is funnier and thus will bring us more money!" - said the studio executives.

 

10 hours ago, Tom said:

I appreciate your optimism.  

I wish I could be that optimistic. But the odds of JW scoring this movie are smaller than those of Michael Bay winning an Oscar for Best Director.

[Muad'Dib 1,910]

The best chance we could have is that he'd write some new themes and someone else handle the actual scoring duties; but I feel if that were the case they would have announced it by now.

[Paul M. Grenon 42]

1 hour ago, Muad'Dib said:

The best chance we could have is that he'd write some new themes and someone else handle the actual scoring duties; but I feel if that were the case they would have announced it by now.

Then again, Hollywood isn’t always known for making decisions that make sense. I don’t know, I guess I like to be hopeful.

[Richard P 4,639]

Williams had nothing to do with any of the World movies so far. The only reason I can see why he'd get involved in this would be if the movie's in a spot of bother and they need some positive publicity. He's almost 30 years on from departing the franchise.

 

Perhaps there are unexpected scheduling problems and the director or producer's #1 choice is occupied? Any A-list composer looking at such a big score with a slowly diminishing timeframe is going to start costing mega bucks.

 

Or... they're being mega-pretentious and not announcing stuff like that yet. They're not Marvel.

[Thor 9,201]

6 minutes ago, Richard P said:

Williams had nothing to do with any of the World movies so far.

 

True. He will never return. But does he sign off on the use of his themes in the sequels?

[Paul M. Grenon 42]

14 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

True. He will never return. But does he sign off on the use of his themes in the sequels?

I’m sure with such a big franchise there’s some sort of agreement with the themes being used. At the very least the main theme. I don’t think the “Journey to the Island” theme was used at all in Dominion, so maybe they are only allowed to use the main theme? Either that or they just had terrible sense of using leitmotifs correctly.

[Tom Guernsey 3,057]

41 minutes ago, Richard P said:

Williams had nothing to do with any of the World movies so far. The only reason I can see why he'd get involved in this would be if the movie's in a spot of bother and they need some positive publicity. He's almost 30 years on from departing the franchise.

 

I was gonna say... given that they didn't even ask him to write a new theme for JPIII, let alone any of the JW movies, it seems unlikely in the extreme that they'd be asking him to write a new theme for this one. Let's face it, if Steven Spielberg hadn't made the original, JW would never have written the score. We'd have got Jerry Goldsmith's or James Horner's Jurassic Park score instead... so Congo or the Land Before Time. Maybe.

 

My current hope is Bear McCreary. Whatever the final product, you know he'd care deeply about using JW's themes carefully and appropriately, including some of the minor motifs as well as the main themes. I can't really imagine how it might come out against other McCreary works, but I think he'd do a fine job.

[Thor 9,201]

4 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said:

... so Congo or the Land Before Time. Maybe.

 

BABY.

[Meredith McKay 7,519]

33 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

BABY.

Pretty sure Tom is taken.

 

(Alternate joke: now, now, there is no need to insult Tom)

[Mr. Hooper 4,595]

2 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

I was gonna say... given that they didn't even ask him to write a new theme for JPIII, let alone any of the JW movies, it seems unlikely in the extreme that they'd be asking him to write a new theme for this one.

I could see them asking Williams back this time because, 1) They want to hearken back to the feel of the original, 2) As an acknowledgement and tribute to him, since everyone is realizing it's now or never (It would be part of his farewell tour, after saying goodbye to Indy.), and 3) It would generate some positive publicity and would be a move universally praised by fans of the franchise.

[Tom Guernsey 3,057]

46 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

I could see them asking Williams back this time because, 1) They want to hearken back to the feel of the original, 2) As an acknowledgement and tribute to him, since everyone is realizing it's now or never (It would be part of his farewell tour, after saying goodbye to Indy.), and 3) It would generate some positive publicity and would be a move universally praised by fans of the franchise.

Fair points. We’ll see but I remain sceptical. At least a new JW theme would somewhat force the actual composer to write something that strongly honoured the original. Sadly experience suggests that aside from a few nods the music will be blandly contemporary. 

[Luke Skywalker 2,117]

4 hours ago, Paul M. Grenon said:

I’m sure with such a big franchise there’s some sort of agreement with the themes being used. At the very least the main theme. I don’t think the “Journey to the Island” theme was used at all in Dominion, so maybe they are only allowed to use the main theme? Either that or they just had terrible sense of using leitmotifs correctly.

The island theme was used in dominion i think, though maybe not a full rendition i cant remember now

[Evanus 403]

I think it's only used here in Dominion: 

 

 

Was used very prominently for FK's end credits though: 

 

 

 

[Luke Skywalker 2,117]

2 minutes ago, Evanus said:

I think it's only used here in Dominion: 

 

 

Was used very prominently for FK's end credits though: 

 

 

 

And helicpter landing in jurassic world 1

[Tom 5,410]

As with any of these, if he is at all interested, the assignment would be his.  I don't think he is interested even slightly.  Then again, if he is healthy enough and is bored out of his mind, then maybe.  

 

"Ah yes, now that I can cross the piano concerto off my bucket list, I can now turn my attention to a concerto for my other childhood instrument, the precious trombone."

"Hey John, remember that dinosaur movie you scored 30 years ago? Would you like to score a beat for beat remake/sequel?"

"I would love to. Anything but concert music."  

[Edmilson 10,103]

If they wanted JW to score this movie, they should've cast Daisy Ridley 

[Bellosh 4,104]

Just send this pic to Johnny and we'll have a theme for her in no time...

 

[Meredith McKay 7,519]

3 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

Just send this pic to Johnny and we'll have a theme for her in no time...

 

What if he's not into that type of gal?

[Bellosh 4,104]

Blondes, why did it have to be blondes.

[Mr. Hooper 4,595]

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,497]

Phwoarrrrr

[crumbs 15,364]

It was never a series with character themes anyway, unless you count carnivores as characters.

 

What I loved about his approach to both Jurassics was that he scored the concepts of the film. Technology vs nature. The majesty of creation. The dangers of creation. A wild island where nature has no boundaries. I could reel off dozens of examples from both scores that apply to each idea.

[Paul M. Grenon 42]

2 minutes ago, crumbs said:

It was never a series with character themes anyway, unless you count carnivores as characters.

 

What I loved about his approach to both Jurassics was that he scored the concepts of the film. Technology vs nature. The majesty of creation. The dangers of creation. A wild island where nature has no boundaries. I could reel off dozens of examples from both scores that apply to these ideas.

I never really thought about the fact that there aren’t any character themes. I knew there weren’t, but it just felt like that’s the only way it could be. I guess it’s really true what Williams said in one interview: the hardest part is coming up with a melody that sounds as those it’s always existed.

[Meredith McKay 7,519]

8 minutes ago, crumbs said:

It was never a series with character themes anyway, unless you count carnivores as characters.

 

What I loved about his approach to both Jurassics was that he scored the concepts of the film. Technology vs nature. The majesty of creation. The dangers of creation. A wild island where nature has no boundaries. I could reel off dozens of examples from both scores that apply to each idea.

Ludlow

[crumbs 15,364]

He scored the 'concept' of Ludlow (greed), thus explaining how that motif reappears in unrelated films

[Meredith McKay 7,519]

7 minutes ago, crumbs said:

He scored the 'concept' of Ludlow (greed), thus explaining how that motif reappears in unrelated films

The Ludlow concept?

 

[Tom 5,410]

9 minutes ago, crumbs said:

He scored the 'concept' of Ludlow (greed), thus explaining how that motif reappears in unrelated films

Someone should do the Disney Logo but replaced with Ludlow's demise. 

[Paul M. Grenon 42]

36 minutes ago, Meredith McKay said:

Ludlow

The thing is, that has Ludlow as a villain, so it makes sense to give him a theme. While the first film does have Nedry, he isn’t in the whole thing and most scenes he’s in don’t have any music anyways. If you wanted you could say that “Dennis Steals the Embryos” is his theme, which honestly it kinda is (I’m gonna get backlash for this aren’t I). Also, I wonder if it was Spielberg or Williams who decided that it should sound like “The Conspirators” from JFK?

[jackfiszr 18]

What about Anže Rozman and Kara Talve, the composers for Prehistoric Planet? Their score is pretty good by today's standards (the very enjoyable theme was composed by Zimmer). This is a different kind of film, of course. It's not very likely they'd be considered for JWR, I guess. But I sure as hell hope they'd hire their CGI artists. The CGI in the JW series would be more fitting in a PS4 game than in a live-action movie, while Prehistoric Planet has the most realistic CGI I've ever seen anywhere!

 

It also has John Hammond's brother

[Mephariel 529]

Honestly, Zimmer's theme is one of my favorite themes about dinosaurs outside of Williams' Jurassic Park scores.

 

 

[jackfiszr 18]

2 hours ago, Mephariel said:

Zimmer's theme is one of my favorite themes about dinosaurs outside of Williams' Jurassic Park scores.

 

Another reason to give the gig to Zimmer. I honestly find it a bit strange to argue that he won't take it because he's too intimidated by the prospect of following in John Williams' footsteps. Then, how intimidated should the many lesser composers who follow Williams feel? I get that Zimmer's music is a different animal—it's much more simplistic—but on the other hand, he seems to be the only modern composer who really knows what he's doing, while others seem only to be "trying" (if that makes sense).

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,497]

Zimmer? 

[Davis 3,850]

2 hours ago, Mephariel said:

Honestly, Zimmer's and Andrew James Christie’s theme is one of my favorite themes about dinosaurs outside of Williams' Jurassic Park scores.

 

 

Fixed.

[jackfiszr 18]

1 hour ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

Zimmer? 

 

Stop intimidating the poor guy! He'll get depressed and go into exile on some distant planet, and then we'll have to deal with more of Lorne Balfe! 

 

Let's face it: we won't get a Williams-grade score—probably not even if the Maestro himself composed it at his age. I'd much rather have a good-quality, Remote Control-style score than a poor Williams imitation 🤷‍♂️.

 

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The world has just changed so radically, and we're all running to catch up. I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but look... Dinosaurs and Hans, separated by 65 million years of evolution, might just be suddenly thrown back into the mix together. How can we possibly have the slightest idea what to expect? This might actually be fun!

 

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I guess we‘ll have to evolve too.

 

[Edmilson 10,103]

I feel like if it were a "famous" (by non-film score fans) composer, like Zimmer or even Williams, they'd had announced it by now.

 

Nah, if it's not Giacchino (or one of his clan) it'll be someone like Brian Tyler, whose name has floated around in rumors.

[jackfiszr 18]

 

Yeah, I also have a hunch that the rumors about Tyler might turn out true, which wouldn't be that bad. His score could end up good after all. This is a kind of lottery, really.

[Paul M. Grenon 42]

14 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I feel like if it were a "famous" (by non-film score fans) composer, like Zimmer or even Williams, they'd had announced it by now.

 

Nah, if it's not Giacchino (or one of his clan) it'll be someone like Brian Tyler, whose name has floated around in rumors.

Honestly, I kinda think they might wait to announce the composer just to build excitement. I mean, discussing it now shows that it is working.

2 minutes ago, jackfiszr said:

 

Yeah, I also have a hunch that the rumors about Tyler might turn out true, which wouldn't be that bad. His score could end up good after all. This is a kind of lottery, really.

I feel Brian Tyler would be ok. I don't know much of his work, but I know for the Mario movie he quoted lots of themes from the games, so he isn't afraid of referencing previous themes. Still hoping for Williams (I'm a hopeless-Williams fan).

[jackfiszr 18]

2 minutes ago, Paul M. Grenon said:

Honestly, I kinda think they might wait to announce the composer just to build excitement. I mean, discussing it now shows that it is working.

 

Nah... I think they care only about mass consumer and this forum is kinda niche ;)

[Davis 3,850]

I think it’s either gonna be Mike or Mick Giacchino or a collab. Anyway, yawn.

[jackfiszr 18]

1 hour ago, Davis said:

I think it’s either gonna be Mike or Mick Giacchino or a collab. Anyway, yawn.

 

Yup, very possibly. Although, we definitely do not need the fourth Jurassic score by Giacchino.

 

Perhaps some collaboration, like they did for Nolan's Batman? Two completely different composers joining forces has always seemed interesting to me.

 

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Music Composed by
Mike Giacchino, Hans Zimmer and Mick Giacchino

 

[Edmilson 10,103]

15 minutes ago, jackfiszr said:

Perhaps some collaboration, like they did for Nolan's Batman? Two completely different composers joining forces has always seemed interesting to me.

 

I once had a dream where Hans Zimmer, Ludwig Göransson and Danny Elfman worked together on the same score . Can't remember what the movie was about though.

[Thor 9,201]

51 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I once had a dream where Hans Zimmer, Ludwig Göransson and Danny Elfman worked together on the same score . Can't remember what the movie was about though.

 

That's like slapping a sour Swedish herring on top of a crisp German bratwurst and a juicy US burger.

[jackfiszr 18]

1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

I once had a dream where Hans Zimmer, Ludwig Göransson and Danny Elfman worked together on the same score . Can't remember what the movie was about though.

 

Funny. When I was a kid, around 1998, when everyone was anticipating Star Wars Episode I, I had vivid dreams that JW died and Jerry Goldsmith did the score for The Phantom Menace .

 

Already then I perceived him as very old (although Goldsmith was, of course, even older), and here we are 27 years later.

 

16 minutes ago, Thor said:

That's like slapping a sour Swedish herring on top of a crisp German bratwurst and a juicy US burger.

 

Oh no, I think this trio would work.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,465]

Does this even need music?