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57 minutes ago, Evanus said:

Heard some rumours that Brian Tyler might be the composer. Apparently he posted some Jurassic Park stuff when this got announced. 

 

Please be bullshit...

gosh…please no

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Could be interesting.

 

What exactly are we looking for with the score to the SEVENTH Jurassic Park?

 

Do you think someone else would be as good as Williams and they're just missing it?

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1 hour ago, Meredith McKay said:

But he's all dead.

Err, if that was an attempt at a joke, even one with a reference to that John Williams line, it wasn't that funny. As far as we know Don Davis is still alive, so I missed the punchline.

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8 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Err, if that was an attempt at a joke, even one with a reference to that John Williams line, it wasn't that funny. As far as we know Don Davis is still alive, so I missed the punchline.

 

8 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Err, if that was an attempt at a joke, even one with a reference to that John Williams line, it wasn't that funny. As far as we know Don Davis is still alive, so I missed the punchline.

I fixed it

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4 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Someone posting that Superman gif in 3, 2, 1...

Let me rephrase:

 

There is 0.01 chance in hell Don Davis is scoring this.

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Brian Tyler!? His scores are so…bland. He literally is the go-to for generic action film scores and they are pretty soulless. I REALLY hope he is not scoring Rebirth.

I will take solace that this purely a rumour from one person on Twitter/X and not confirmed officially. The tweet just implies Daryl Leigh Lynn ‘thinks’ it’s Brian Tyler.
 

 

Composers that I would much, much prefer:

Alexandre Desplat (Godzilla 2014, HP Deathly Hallows pt. 1-2, Isle of Dogs, Del Toro’s upcoming Frankenstein) - worked with Edwards before on a similar jungle/monster film (G14) and can emulate William’s style / themes (Harry Potter)

 

Ramin Djawadi (Game of Thrones, Fallout, Westworld, Pacific Rim, Warcraft) - great at creating iconic themes and diverse. Very good at creating a musical tone that fits a ‘world’ - kicks ass at piano / violin renditions of themes / songs. 

 

Bear McReary (Godzilla: KotM, 10 Cloverfield Lane, God of War videogames. Rings of Power Prime series) - experience with ‘monster’ and ‘ancient’ styled music and tone. Awesome user of vocals and choirs. 

 

Benjamin Wallfisch (Alien: Romulus, IT (1-2), Blade Runner 2049 (w/ Zimmer), Annabelle: Creation) - compliments existing themes and scores without overdoing it / parroting too much. Good history with horror film scores. 

 

Harry Gregson-Williams (Kingdom of Heaven, Gladiator II, Prometheus (main themes), The Martian) - great at sweeping, dramatic themes. Also good at mimicking the tone of other scores (Gladiator II).

 

Backup safe option:

Michael Giacchino (Jurassic World trilogy) - he would be fine, but I think they are looking for a new tone.

 

Hans Zimmer - can and has done a bit of everything. Would make a score that would likely have ‘something’ memorable or good in it. His recent Dune scores were fantastic.

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18 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Bring Don Davis back

This.

 

And I know it's not happening, as Hollywood seems allergic to Don Davis (actually, they seem to be allergic to good music these days...), but still that would be great.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be Brian Tyler, Benjamin Wallfisch, Lorne Balfe or one of those go-to guys for action blockbusters.

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4 hours ago, CGerr said:

Alexandre Desplat (Godzilla 2014, HP Deathly Hallows pt. 1-2, Isle of Dogs, Del Toro’s upcoming Frankenstein) - worked with Edwards before on a similar jungle/monster film (G14) and can emulate William’s style / themes (Harry Potter)

... and was fired from scoring Rogue One. 

 

By the way, does meanwhile anybody know why?

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I don't especially want Brian Tyler to get the gig although I still think I dislike many of his scores because the mastering is so horrible (all the brick walling) so any nuance there may have been is lost. Having said that, I gave his Children of Dune miniseries score a listen the other day and thought it was great in a "gosh this sounds a lot like Gladiator" kind of way. Probably better than Gladiator 2 (which, in fairness, I've not heard).

 

 

 

At the risk of being cast out, I wouldn't actually want JW to score this. JP is over 30 years old now and anything he wrote now would be nothing like that or The Lost World. It would probably have too much nuance and not enough over the top, throw in the kitchen sink, about it. I mean, let's face it, how many other action/adventure movies have a 3 minute helicopter ride sequence which basically has its own theme which is at least as good as the main theme of the movie, but isn't actually the main theme?! None, I tell you, none. I doubt his sensibilities would result in that kind of writing now. Insert meme of person playing a burning piano on the beach with JW's name above it...

 

I'm sure this new film won't have a 3 minute helicopter ride sequence but the chances are they won't pick anyone that we would actually want or who could score such a sequence nearly half as well. I expect some studio production lackey sits on JWFan making a note of all of our terrific suggestions and making sure none of them get the gig.* I mean, Joel McNeely or John Powell would get my vote... both of them would write some great new themes, pillage all the best bits of "classic" JW and quote the old themes in lots of super ways. Or, yes, Don Davis. Loving the dinosaur poop out of JPIII.

 

*While this sounds unlikely, given that almost every sequel/remake/prequel/reboot/rehash/whatever gets the composer most of us round here want least, it feels like a plausible explanation.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tom Guernsey said:

I mean, let's face it, how many other action/adventure movies have a 3 minute helicopter ride sequence which basically has its own theme which is at least as good as the main theme of the movie, but isn't actually the main theme?! None, I tell you, none.

 

This. All this. At this far remove, understanding what that nine minutes of film (and music!) did to audiences in 1993 is impossible to describe. Keep in mind, the trailers and commercials for JP did not show ANY DINOSAURS. This whole section of film was JW and Spielberg taking us up the first hill of the roller coaster AND opening the doors to the fun house!

 

I remember being floored when I read that Phil Tippet (I think it was Tippet. One of the ILM guys) had tears in his eyes when he saw the Brachiosaurus because that was exactly what happened to me. ("THEY get it TOO!")

 

I've said this before but honestly, the only moment in a JP film that cinematically or musically came close to this moment was in the first Jurassic World when you see the whole park and I really think Giacchino knocks it out of the... er, game.

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Tyler's probably great at quickly providing effective scoring for busy movies (hence being in demand) but while I like his work for Yellowstone, his melodies don't excite me at all. I can't name a single main theme he's done that I actually find memorable and can hum.

 

I'd be happy with Gia but they may have moved on from him after 3 movies. Powell or McCreary are my next favoured choices - at the absolute peak of their careers in terms of quality and being able to handle the workload of a major project.

 

Ultimately though.... I don't care. If someone comes on board and provides something generic, it's still a film that no one asked for and a score that no one expected. The first couple/three/six (select according to which you think are the good ones) scores won't become trash just because the world's worst composer attempts to write some Jurassic music.

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Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 3 are two of my favorite Marvel scores. And I still love Bubba Ho Tep. There has to be someone worse.

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On 24/01/2025 at 11:09 PM, Tallguy said:

Give Gordy Haab his big shot!

But is he ever going to stop fearing catchy melodies? 

He's written SO MUCH STUFF by now and absolutely NOTHING stands out to me. 

 

Maybe if he lets MoH Giacchino do the tunes and he does the orchestration, something interesting might come out? 

 

 

Brian Tyler has done some cool tracks. 

Children of Dune, Timeline and LEGO Universe all have bits to like. 

But I feel like he only writes a few good tracks and then everything else is bland and boring. 

He knows it too, because he front-loads his albums with the good stuff.

It's been years though since I cared about the guy.

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2 hours ago, Meredith McKay said:

I liked his Mario score too.

Yeah, I listened to Mario when that movie was playing in theaters and I thought it was decent.

 

On the other hand I tried listening to Transformers One and didn't even finish the album. Just not my style of music.

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On 24/01/2025 at 5:57 PM, Meredith McKay said:
On 24/01/2025 at 5:49 PM, Edmilson said:

Err, if that was an attempt at a joke, even one with a reference to that John Williams line, it wasn't that funny. As far as we know Don Davis is still alive, so I missed the punchline.

I fixed it

 

The police will be in touch about about Mr. Davis' disappearance.

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Yeah, teaser will definitely debut during the superbowl. Hopefully we'll finally get a composer announcement then as well.

 

Still hoping it isn't Tyler but I got a bad feeling about this.. 

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3 hours ago, Evanus said:

Still hoping it isn't Tyler but I got a bad feeling about this.. 

Honestly, Tyler would interest me more than any of those other composers CGerr suggested above.

Virtually all of those wouldn't stick the landing either. 

But really, it makes very little difference; it seems we're wholly stuck between rocks and hard places. 

 

James Newton Howard or John Powell or Alan Silvestri might be actually EXITING.

Bear McCreary COULD be good too. But it depends completely what palette he brings to the table. 

I have no high hopes there. 

Who could actually do the awe of Williams proper justice??

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Based on his score for Godzilla, Bear McCreary could be a really good choice.

 

I don't think Tyler has written "monster music" before... Only this comes to my mind but it was almost 20 years ago:

 

 

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8 hours ago, Pieter Boelen said:

Who could actually do the awe of Williams proper justice??

 

No one. But you mentioned Alan Silvestri and James Newton Howard. They can do it pretty well. Like "Bud on the Ledge" from THE ABYSS or "The Bubble" from WATERWORLD, respectively. Seems to me, though, this film is less about awe and more about suspense/action, at least from what I've heard and seen.

 

I can dream until I'm blue in the face about who I want to score this, but it's not like I have a say in the matter. I'll have to deal with whoever it is when the time comes. I just hope it isn't any of the ones I outright dislike.

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8 hours ago, HyenaBoy said:

I’d love for it to be John Powell

 

This seems exceedingly unlikely. He already has the HTTYD remake and Wicked 2 on his plate this year. Debatable how much work the former is, though.

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Obviously, I would LOVE for Don Davis to come back. But realistically, I think Desplat would do a great job. I still remember the disappointment hearing the news he wouldn't be able to do Rogue One back in 2016. 

Spoiler

 

 

John Powell would be amazing too (maybe too good for this kind of slop film material). JHN could be quite interesting. If it had to be a more "generic" composer, I would take Henry Jackman 100 times over Brian Tyler.

 

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Actually I would add Bear McCreary to the list of good choices. From what I know of him, I expect he'd do a super deep dive into the original scores and be sure to use lots of the secondary themes and motifs, as well as the main ones, to add to his own material and ensure his and JW's styles were integrated effectively. Plus, unless John Powell etc., he's OK to run with approximately 47 projects at the same time so lots of other stuff on would be no impediment to him accepting the gig.

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Actually, Brian Tyler would be an excellent choice! (I’d take him 100 times over Henry Jackman :P whose work I honestly don’t find memorable).

His early stuff, like Children of Dune, is really good. He also did a decent job blending Jerry Goldsmith's themes with his new music for Rambo. And, to mention again, Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 3! He's great with drums, which is important for a Jurassic movie score.

 

Anyone else irritated by the overuse of the first Jurassic Park themes and the complete lack of The Lost World themes in movies 3–6? This doesn’t make sense, as the original themes portray the surprise and awe of the first encounter with the dinos. After that initial "honeymoon" is over, the actual theme for the series should be The Lost World theme. I wouldn’t mind if the score for Rebirth was inspired by The Lost World and completely ignored the first movie musically.

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44 minutes ago, jackfiszr said:

Actually, Brian Tyler would be an excellent choice! (I’d take him 100 times over Henry Jackman :P whose work I honestly don’t find memorable).

His early stuff, like Children of Dune, is really good. He also did a decent job blending Jerry Goldsmith's themes with his new music for Rambo. And, to mention again, Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 3! He's great with drums, which is important for a Jurassic movie score.

 

Anyone else irritated by the overuse of the first Jurassic Park themes and the complete lack of The Lost World themes in movies 3–6? This doesn’t make sense, as the original themes portray the surprise and awe of the first encounter with the dinos. After that initial "honeymoon" is over, the actual theme for the series should be The Lost World theme. I wouldn’t mind if the score for Rebirth was inspired by The Lost World and completely ignored the first movie musically.

Oooh yes, more Lost World theme, YES PLEASE!!

That is SUCH an underrated and underused piece! 

I'd love some good variations on that.

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On 25/01/2025 at 2:35 PM, Tallguy said:

 

At this far remove, understanding what that nine minutes of film (and music!) did to audiences in 1993 is impossible to describe. Keep in mind, the trailers and commercials for JP did not show ANY DINOSAURS. This whole section of film was JW and Spielberg taking us up the first hill of the roller coaster AND opening the doors to the fun house!

 

I remember being floored when I read that Phil Tippet (I think it was Tippet. One of the ILM guys) had tears in his eyes when he saw the Brachiosaurus because that was exactly what happened to me. ("THEY get it TOO!")

 

I've said this before but honestly, the only moment in a JP film that cinematically or musically came close to this moment was in the first Jurassic World when you see the whole park and I really think Giacchino knocks it out of the... er, game.

 

100% agree...except for that last statement. Out of everything in that Jurassic World trilogy that was underwhelming, and that covers 70% of the entire trilogy (I'm being generous), that moment was one of them.

 

This video demonstrates why:

 

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1 hour ago, JohnnyD said:

 

100% agree...except for that last statement. Out of everything in that Jurassic World trilogy that was underwhelming, and that covers 70% of the entire trilogy (I'm being generous), that moment was one of them.

Yes! That supposed awe-inspiring moment was completely underwhelming! I remember being distinctly unimpressed when I first saw it in theaters because I knew that was supposed to be the beautiful “Hammond’s dream finally realized” moment and it was just a quick flyover moment.

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There are quite a few composers who could do a decent JP score. But, as the films themselves get worse and worse, I am not holding my breath for any miracles.

 

Karol

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On 27/1/2025 at 8:10 PM, Gustavo Joseph said:

Benjamin Wallfisch did the last big Spielberg production last year, Twisters, and did a pretty decent score. Maybe it's him.


Wallfisch would be a great choice. He would definitely reference Williams and Giacchino’s material in Rebirth if Alien Romulus is any indication.


I would also love to see Desplat reunite with Edwards on this but I doubt it. A potential JW score by Desplat would probably be close to Godzilla in tone with references to Williams’ motifs.

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