So Dan Trachtenberg is directing another Predator movie - Predator: Badlands

[Jay 45,837]

https://deadline.com/2024/02/dan-trachtenberg-predator-movie-badlands-1235820417/

[Jay 45,837]

And in addition to "Predator: Badlands" (coming to theaters November 7th), "Predator: Killer of Killers" is coming to Hulu on June 6th

 

 

 

[tomsmoviemadness 4,778]

Is that the Silvestri theme at the end? In a very trailerized version?

[Quintus 6,340]

Still waiting for a good Predator 2 follow up. Prey was just alright.

[Jay 45,837]

Badlands teaser

 

 

[Quintus 6,340]

Enigmatic predators are no more.

[tomsmoviemadness 4,778]

That trailer is pretty nuts.

 

So Elle Fanning is playing a Weyland-Yutani bot. Are we getting a Predator/Alien crossover again soon...

And is that a skull from the aliens of War Of The Worlds?

[Thor 9,347]

1 hour ago, Quintus said:

Enigmatic predators are no more.

 

It's been a while since they were.

 

I don't see any Weyland-Utani links in that trailer, Tom?

[Evanus 428]

You can see the WY logo when her eyes roll over. It's on that crashed truck as well:

 

Anyway, looks dumb. Don't like the idea of doing another Alien crossover either. It's just gonna hurt the Alien franchise, which it doesn't need especially after Romulus' mediocrity.

[Jay 45,837]

22 minutes ago, Thor said:

I don't see any Weyland-Utani links in that trailer, Tom?

 

Gotta use your eyeballs Thor!
 

[Thor 9,347]

Good catches!

 

Even though AvP isn't officially considered canon (despite my desperate attempts to make them so), the connection is pretty much established now nonetheless. I like it.

[Jay 45,837]

I dunno if I'd call it a good catch, the entire point of including the eyelid closing shot in the teaser is so you notice the logo

[Thor 9,347]

Could be. It was like a nano second on a small YouTube screen, so I could probably be forgiven. I just noticed she was an android, sittin' in a tree.

[Luke Skywalker 2,364]

1 hour ago, Thor said:

Could be. It was like a nano second on a small YouTube screen, so I could probably be forgiven. I just noticed she was an android, sittin' in a tree.

Same here, i didnt noticed it. I even thought it was a possessed human or something

[A. A. Ron 2,476]

Well that didn't make much of an impression on me, but I'm open to a pleasant surprise. The only films I've seen from this fandom so far are Alien, Aliens, Predator, and Prey.

  

6 hours ago, tomsmoviemadness said:

That trailer is pretty nuts.

 

So Elle Fanning is playing a Weyland-Yutani bot. Are we getting a Predator/Alien crossover again soon...

And is that a skull from the aliens of War Of The Worlds?

 

Since it's a Fox production, I assumed the skull was from an Independence Day alien.

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

[Xander Harris 9,577]

Odd Fox cameo. They can't let anything go, can they.

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

What is it they want us to do?

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

Mashing up the AVP and ID4 universes doesn't work because the latter features two world apocalyptic events within a fixed timespan from 1996 to 2016, which obviously didn't happen in the AVP timeline. Unless there's multiverse shit happening here, too.

[Naïve Old Fart 12,908]

PREDATOR VS. ALIEN VS. ID4 IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS 

[Davis 3,957]

On 8/4/2025 at 9:57 PM, Quintus said:

Still waiting for a good Predator 2 follow up. Prey was just awful.

Fixed.

[Quintus 6,340]

I read the great action director John McTiernan is mulling over a comeback.

[Davis 3,957]

If anyone can and should direct a PREDATOR movie, it’s McTiernan. Imagine if he brought back Arnold to play an old Dutch going back to the jungle. 

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

Is he on parole?

[Sweeping Strings 3,392]

Hard to believe that Predator 2's Rotten Tomatoes score is lower than The Predator's. IMO the latter's sole redeeming quality is that as it was a TV screening, watching it didn't cost me anything (well, apart from time) ... what an absolute pile of shit.   

[Thor 9,347]

2 hours ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

Mashing up the AVP and ID4 universes doesn't work because the latter features two world apocalyptic events within a fixed timespan from 1996 to 2016, which obviously didn't happen in the AVP timeline. Unless there's multiverse shit happening here, too.

 

We almost got a multiverse thing happening with Blomkamp's aborted ALIEN project, but that didn't pan out, so so far this has not been established in either the ALIEN or PREDATOR universes. It's hard enough as it is merging the AvPs with the ALIEN films (especially the Weyland issue).

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

I still don't see any contradictions between the AVP flicks and Prometheus/Covenant, but maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

[Thor 9,347]

It's the Weyland/Lance Henriksen issue.

 

First of all, there's the Henriksen that pops up at the end of ALIEN 3. He says he's human. When he's struck, he bleeds red. So he's telling the truth? But the injury, with the ear all out of wack, seems more than a human can take. So an android? People are still debating this. I've landed on the side of android, especially since any "original" Bishop would probably be older.

 

Then in AvP, Henriksen returns as Charles Bishop Weyland, very much human, and now HE is the founder and CEO of Weyland Industries, the one that later Bishop models are molded on. This takes place in 2004. 

 

In PROMETHEUS, Guy Pearce's Peter Weyland is presented as the founder and CEO of Weyland Corp., established in 2012.

 

There is no official connection between the two, although fan theories are plenty out there -- like Peter being the son of Charles, and rebranding his father's company. But then there are ancilliary sources about each Weyland's histories (books, comics, games etc.) that contradict this. They were never intended to have any relation, as the AvP movies are not ALIEN canon. Yet. Maybe BADLANDS will change this.

[GerateWohl 6,473]

7 minutes ago, Thor said:

First of all, there's the Henriksen that pops up at the end of ALIEN 3. He says he's the original that the ALIENS Bishop is molded on. When he's struck, he bleeds red. So human? He's telling the truth? But the injury, with the ear all out of wack, seems more than a human can take. So an android?

Surely he bleeds red because he's a replicant.

[Thor 9,347]

Yes, different kind of android. Maybe some hybrid clone. A different one than the others who bleed white, in any case.

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

20 minutes ago, Thor said:

It's the Weyland/Lance Henriksen issue.

 

First of all, there's the Henriksen that pops up at the end of ALIEN 3. He says he's human. When he's struck, he bleeds red. So he's telling the truth? But the injury, with the ear all out of wack, seems more than a human can take. So an android? People are still debating this. I've landed on the side of android, especially since any "original" Bishop would probably be older.

 

Then in AvP, Henriksen returns as Charles Bishop Weyland, very much human, and now HE is the founder and CEO of Weyland Industries, the one that later Bishop models are molded on. This takes place in 2004. 

 

In PROMETHEUS, Guy Pearce's Peter Weyland is presented as the founder and CEO of Weyland Corp., established in 2012.

 

There is no official connection between the two, although fan theories are plenty out there -- like Peter being the son of Charles, and rebranding his father's company. But then there are ancilliary sources about each Weyland's histories (books, comics, games etc.) that contradict this. They were never intended to have any relation, as the AvP movies are not ALIEN canon. Yet. Maybe BADLANDS will change this.

 

I'd attribute Bishop II's response to his injury being the result of adrenalin, and movie people are generally tougher than real life people. Wasn't there an extra shot of him groaning in pain from the injury in the Assembly Cut?

 

I'm really forgiving of the fuzziness on the Charles/Peter Weyland CEO stuff, which was already explained by that fan theory you referred to. Might have been a father/son rivalry, and the events of AVP/AVPR might have influenced Peter Weyland to build interstellar spacecraft. And Yutani had the Predator tech in AVPR, which probably made it all the way to the lab we see in The Predator.

 

I don't read any of that EU literature.

[Thor 9,347]

I'm pretty forgiving too, because I want it all to tie together, even when it was never intended to.

 

The whole thing would crumble if the Henriksen at the end of ALIEN 3 is the proper human founder, though. So if not an android, I can stretch myself to CLONE. Especially since cloning tech would go bananas many years later, in RESSURECTION.

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

I thought he was a descendant, and in movieland, descendants are usually identical to their ancestors.

[Thor 9,347]

Just now, Lady Dimitrescu said:

I thought he was a descendant, and in movieland, descendants are usually identical to their ancestors.

 

I know. I've always disliked that; so unrealistic. So if there's any way around it, I'll go for it.

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

6 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

I know. I've always disliked that; so unrealistic. So if there's any way around it, I'll go for it.

 

See those are just cinematic sins that I'm forgiving of. Like Evie being an exact doppelganger of her past incarnation in Ancient Egypt in The Mummy Returns.

[Davis 3,957]

3 hours ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

Like Evie being an exact doppelganger of her past incarnation in Ancient Egypt in The Mummy Returns.

That sexy catfight of the two women in ancient Egypt is alone worth watching TMR for. 

[Thor 9,347]

I tolerate those kinds of things, I don't like them.

 

Anyway, while there were disconcerting things in that trailer (like the look of that teenage predator girl....isn't much left of the rawness of that look; they're almost cute now...what's next, a predator Grogu type?), there is still enough to keep me intrigued. Especially now due to the ALIEN connection.

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

Wait it's a girl?

[Thor 9,347]

I don't know. Kinda looked that way; the smoother features.

[Jill Sandwich 11,047]

She's pretty

[Jay 45,837]

 

 

[tomsmoviemadness 4,778]

 

[Gabriel Bezerra 770]

Ah...

[Gabriel Bezerra 770]

On 01/06/2025 at 5:03 AM, tomsmoviemadness said:

 

So what's up with Prey and now this only using the 6-note ostinato (is it an ostinato?) from Silvestri's catalogue?

 

Besides that annoying grievance, I didn't find much enjoyment in the album either.

[Gabriel Bezerra 770]

Killer of Killers was a blast. And hey, Wallfisch does use other motifs from Silvestri!

 

Not sure about that twist in the end though, bittersweet.

[tomsmoviemadness 4,778]

Wonder if they'll follow up that ending and that we get another ankmated film

[thestat 497]

Wallfisch is the best option nowadays - at least he has an identity and respect for what has gone on before him. Alien Romulus may not be as amazing as the first 3 but it's probably up there with Frizzel's work. Twisters is weird as the lack of themes makes it sound totally amputated, but it still captures the orchestral and choral splendour of Mancina's original.

 

At the end of the day, Wallfisch did The Flash which is probably the only truly GREAT score composed this decade. The melodies and soundscape are fantastic as is the use of Don Davis / John Adams vocabulary. IT is brilliant as is - Paper Boat is still my ringtone after 7 years, so that says something about something. 0:57 onwards - absolutely legendary: 

 

 

[tomsmoviemadness 4,778]

His IT scores are indeed brilliant!

 

Excited to hear what does with the series later this year

[Jay 45,837]

 

[Jay 45,837]