Alan Silvestri's WHAT LIES BENEATH (2000) - NEW! 2024 Varese Deluxe Edition

[Jay 45,820]

 

Alan Silvestri – What Lies Beneath (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack - Deluxe Edition CD)
UPC: 888072574021
Release Date: May 3, 2024
Regular price$ 20.00

Expected to ship the week of May 3, 2024.

 

What Lies Beneath (2000) was a first for filmmaker Robert Zemeckis: a serious, adult-minded ghost story starring Michelle Pfeiffer and, in a rare turn (and twist) as the villain, Harrison Ford. Originally developed for Steven Spielberg, the film was a Hitchcockian throwback of slow-burn suspense, with gorgeous Vermont locations supporting the A-list talent.

 

Scoring What Lies Beneath was, as always for Zemeckis, his long-time collaborator, Alan Silvestri (Back to the Future, Forrest Gump). Silvestri conjured up a dark, moody soundscape of suspense, orchestral violence and eerie beauty for the supernatural hauntings and real-life threat that is closer than the heroine realizes—ably recalling the spirit of the classic Hitchcock–Herrmann partnership, with Silvestri’s own vernacular and modern dramatic sense.

 

Varèse Sarabande released What Lies Beneath as a 9-track, 30-minute program at the time of the film. This long-awaited Deluxe Edition premieres the complete score in a 25-track, 60-minute program, with new liner notes by Daniel Schweiger interviewing screenwriter Clark Gregg.

 

Track List:

1. ImageMovers Logo
2. Main Title
3. Panic Attack
4. Sobbing Neighbor
5. Claire Visits Feur House / I Thought I Saw / Watery What?
6. Broken Photo
7. Binocular Spy
8. Discover Key / Full Bath
9. Ouija Board
10. You Know
11. Newspaper Clipping
12. Madison’s Room
13. Forbidden Fruit
14. Jody Fesses Up / Electrocuted
15. I Opened The Door
16. Claire's Drive
17. Key Decision
18. Norman Attacks
19. Passive Aggressive Masterpiece / Norman Falls / Bloody Hand
20. Norman's Gone / Claire Steps In Blood / Hand Moves Sting
21. The Getaway
22. Reunited / Peace At Last
23. End Credits
24. Restaurant Source
25. The Four Seasons: Autumn

https://varesesarabande.com/products/what-lies-beneath-cd

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,665]

Nice

[Luke Skywalker 2,364]

Nice spoilerish film-review....

[Jay 45,820]

Ha!  That's true isn't it.  I spoiler-blocked it here.

[Yavar Moradi 4,366]

It's a good movie and a good twist that shouldn't be spoiled. Why, Varese??? (And kudos, Luke & Jay.)

 

Yavar

[Jay 45,820]

I'm more sad that they don't include who produces, edits, mixes, and masters a new Deluxe Edition as part of their press release, over the spoiler thing. 

 

No samples any more either.  Or track times.

 

The latter two are likely a result of being gobbled up by Concord.  The former is a choice the writer of the press releases makes.

[Richard P 5,246]

There are a minority of cases where I think Varese's fee limitations actually helped, and I think this is one of those.

 

Might pick it up eventually given that this should also have been newly mastered, but sifting through the CS on YT, whenever I get to a cue that's properly doing something, it's a cue on the OST.

[Edmilson 12,224]

Sigh. I've never seen this movie and now I know... 

Spoiler

... who plays the villain.

Varese copywriters probably thought this is a 23 (almost 24) year old movie, so the "spoiler rule" doesn't apply anymore.

[Richard P 5,246]

They'd get away with it if they were spoiling ESB, but this is not a huge movie and a lot of people will never have seen it. I think I've seen bits, but I certainly hadn't remembered the ending.

[scallenger 664]

Always loved this film and score! Shame about all the spoilers in the listing (and some of the track titles too, if you read into them). The movie always felt cozy to me? The perfect rainy/gloomy weather, staying in at home for the day kind of film. I remember it being a bit of a hit at the time (unless I am mistaken) and was even parodied in one of the "Scary Movie" films. A shame it kind of got forgotten after that, so I hope this release may convince more to watch it.

 

Then again, given how critical we have all become, I'm sure some will see it as derivative trash and wonder what the hell I ever saw in it. Oh well.

[Laserschwert 674]

I liked it a lot, and it has some amazing cinematography and "impossible" camera moves, that Zemeckis is so good at.

[Cindylover1969 97]

1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said:

It's a good movie and a good twist that shouldn't be spoiled. Why, Varese??? (And kudos, Luke & Jay.)

 

Yavar

Well, the movie's own trailer notoriously gave away the ending.... (Which really didn't hurt it commercially)https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt0161081/?ref_=bo_se_r_1

[scallenger 664]

Oh god, I had forgotten about that! I think the trailer did have some misdirects too, if I recall. And the trailer music they used (not from the film) was very action-oriented hahaha. Was very late 90s/early 2000s of them to hype it up like some intense thrill ride when in reality it was more of a moody atmospheric mystery film.

 

I think the cast and the basic premise sold the movie to audiences. Back then, movie stars usually still carried a film's success compared to today. Are there any true movie stars left that are guaranteed to sell tickets?

[Richard P 5,246]

They've updated with cover art - this is the full 3000px version.

 

Also, both are on digital-preorder for 3rd May so we can listen properly.

 

[Thor 9,347]

I remember sampling this score when it came out, and it didn't do much for me. It was Silvestri doing his best Herrmann schtick (which he's good at, I'll give him that).

 

Still hoping for premiere releases of more pre-ROMANCING THE STONE scores. Or stuff like SHE'S OUT OF CONTROL. Or PAR OÙ T'ES RENTRÉ? ON T'A PAS VU SORTIR. Or OUTRAGEOUS FORTUNE. That kind of stuff.

[crocodile 9,634]

I will get this one but not instantly.

 

Karol

[FunnyML 180]

Here's where the source cues fit chronologically:

Spoiler

DLX01 1M0 ImageMovers Logo
DLX02 1M1 Main Title
DLX03 1M3 Panic Attack

DLX04 2M1 Sobbing Neighbor
DLX05 2M2 Claire Visits Feur House / 2M3 I Thought I Saw... / 2M3X Watery What?

DLX06 3M1 Broken Photo
DLX07 3M3 Binocular Spy
DLX24 3M4S Restaurant Source
DLX08 3M4 Discovered Key / Full Bath

DLX09 4M1 Ouija Board
DLX10 4M2 You Know
DLX25 4M3S Party Source (The Four Seasons: Autumn)
DLX11 4M4 Newspaper Clipping

DLX12 5M2 Madison's Room
DLX13 5M3 Forbidden Fruit
DLX14 5M4 Jody Fesses Up / 5M5 Electrocuted

DLX15 6M1 I Opened The Door
DLX16 6M3 Claire's Drive
DLX17 6M5 Key Decision

DLX18 7M1 Norman Attacks
DLX19 7M2 Passive Aggressive Masterpiece / 8M2 Norman Falls / 8M3 Bloody Hand
DLX20 8M4 Norman's Gone / 8M5 Claire Steps In Blood / 9M1 Hand Moves Sting
DLX21 9M2 Chase (The Getaway)
DLX22 9M3 Hope Floats (Reunited) / 9M4 Peace At Last
DLX23 9M5 End Credits

 

[scallenger 664]

Has the ImageMovers Logo music ever been officially released before?

[Cindylover1969 97]

13 hours ago, scallenger said:

Has the ImageMovers Logo music ever been officially released before?

No.

[Jay 45,820]

Samples:

 

https://varesesarabande.com/products/alan-silvestri-what-lies-beneath-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-deluxe-edition-digital-album

[Holko 12,020]

Cool, they're remembering that they have to sell their product somehow!

[Richard P 5,246]

I'm vaguely tempted to pick this up so I own it in some form, as the OST has some nice material.

 

The Int'l store has no indication that it's not shipping yet, but is also charging a totally unreasonable price - 25% markup over the US store and waaay too much for only 2nd class post.

[Tom Guernsey 3,833]

1 hour ago, Richard Penna said:

I'm vaguely tempted to pick this up so I own it in some form, as the OST has some nice material.

 

The Int'l store has no indication that it's not shipping yet, but is also charging a totally unreasonable price - 25% markup over the US store and waaay too much for only 2nd class post.

I wrote and complained when HTTYD3 came out as I agree it’s outrageous (even worse they treat Guernsey as “international” so the postage was even more astonishingly expensive). Maybe worth doing the same. Their old store had a half arsed delivery partner but it was at least fairly priced. 

[GerateWohl 6,473]

On 19/04/2024 at 9:42 PM, Thor said:

I remember sampling this score when it came out, and it didn't do much for me. It was Silvestri doing his best Herrmann schtick (which he's good at, I'll give him that).

Listened to the OST, and your comment sums it up quite well.

[Jay 45,820]

My copy arrived yesterday.

 

The back cover reveals that this is produced by Cary Mansfield and Lukas Kendall, and mastered by Chas Ferry and Melinda Hurley.  Doesn't say who did the editing

[Yavar Moradi 4,366]

Thanks for sharing the info since Varese didn't!

 

Yavar

[Jay 45,820]

Is this Lukas's first Producer credit since the FSM days?  I've seen him in the special thanks on and off over the years since then but I don't recall him acting as a producer again until now.  However I don't buy every specialty label that comes out or anything so I wouldn't really know.

[Luke Skywalker 2,364]

On 19/04/2024 at 8:45 PM, Cindylover1969 said:

Well, the movie's own trailer notoriously gave away the ending.... (Which really didn't hurt it commercially)https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt0161081/?ref_=bo_se_r_1

wow Spain was 3rd in the world boxoffice sales.

[thestat 497]

I do like what Silvestri does with Herrmann but this is, like, literally, the least required expansion of all time. There is the main theme (fantastic) and the action (very frigging Richard Band-like, now). The rest is Silvestri string sustains which are never ever good listening.

[Rachael Foley 10,028]

16 hours ago, thestat said:

The rest is Silvestri string sustains which are never ever good listening.

But are they good feeling?

[29944 32]

On 07/05/2024 at 11:20 AM, Jay said:

Is this Lukas's first Producer credit since the FSM days?  I've seen him in the special thanks on and off over the years since then but I don't recall him acting as a producer again until now.  However I don't buy every specialty label that comes out or anything so I wouldn't really know.

No, he recently produced "The 1701 Collection" for LLL with Neil S. Bulk and Jeff Bond, for example.

[tjguitar 0]

Lukas mentioned that he produced this album around 8 years ago:

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=145027&forumID=1&archive=0&viewLast=1

[Jay 45,820]

Wow! What's tricky to license about this score?

[Richard P 5,246]

So around 2016 or so! Woah. Really makes me think how many of our most wanted scores are sitting right now completed on servers right now, but have been stuck in legal crap for years.

[Edmilson 12,224]

In other words: in the unlikely possibility of Matessino starting to work on the Star Wars expanded scores today, it could be over a decade before we actually see the results.

[Yavar Moradi 4,366]

3 hours ago, Jay said:

Wow! What's tricky to license about this score?

It was a DreamWorks/Fox coproduction so maybe that has something to do with it.

 

Yavar

[Jay 45,820]

Fox only distributed the film internationally and this is an American music label releasing it in America, where it was distributed by Dreamworks.  I doubt Fox/Disney was involved (and 8 years ago, Disney hadn't bought Fox yet anyway)

[Yavar Moradi 4,366]

I wasn't talking about distribution rights, but production companies involved in the film:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Lies_Beneath

 

 

Is only distribution relevant, in terms of soundtrack licensing rights?

 

Yavar

[Richard P 5,246]

For those including me, who hadn't noticed, now streaming in full.

 

I might pick this up eventually as I don't have the OST - it's not a score that needed expansion but if you're in the mood for an hour of quiet, Herrmann-esque psychological music it's probably fine; I've got it on now.

 

 

[Jay 45,820]

5 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

I wasn't talking about distribution rights, but production companies involved in the film:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Lies_Beneath#Remake

 

Is only distribution relevant, in terms of soundtrack licensing rights?

 

Yavar

 

You linked to the wrong part of the wiki page btw

 

ImageMovers was the production company.  Dreamworks distributed the film in the US, 20th distributed the film overseas

 

IIRC the back cover of the DE doesn't mentioned 20th on it anywhere, but I can check when I get home.

[Yavar Moradi 4,366]

26 minutes ago, Jay said:

You linked to the wrong part of the wiki page btw

 

Odd, as I never clicked on the "remake" part. That's just where Google took me (but to the top of the page), and then I copy/pasted. Anyway I've fixed it now.

 

27 minutes ago, Jay said:

ImageMovers was the production company.  Dreamworks distributed the film in the US, 20th distributed the film overseas

 

Wikipedia lists all three for production.

 

28 minutes ago, Jay said:

IIRC the back cover of the DE doesn't mentioned 20th on it anywhere, but I can check when I get home.

 

I'm not sure why that would be helpful. Even if 20th isn't mentioned anywhere on the packaging, it's possible that in the past it was thought they might have some rights to be worked out. The packaging would only reflect the accurate rights as they were eventually figured out, but that may have followed years of lawyers digging around for paperwork to confirm who had to be licensed from. Anyways, I followed up with an inquiry for Lukas at FSM and we'll see if he expands at all.

 

Yavar

[Jay 45,820]

1 minute ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Wikipedia lists all three for production.

 

I hate to be the one to inform you of this, Yavar, but not everything you read on the internet is true.

[Yavar Moradi 4,366]

5 minutes ago, Jay said:

I hate to be the one to inform you of this, Yavar, but not everything you read on the internet is true.

 

Of course I've been well aware of that since childhood, thanks. IMDb also lists all three entities as production companies on the film. Of course I've found tons of IMDb errors on smaller things, but what websites do you recommend for regular folks (not Hollywood insiders) to look up information like this, besides IMDb or Wikipedia? If you've got something more reliable, I'll start using it.

 

Yavar

[Rachael Foley 10,028]

38 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

 

Of course I've been well aware of that since childhood, thanks. IMDb also lists all three entities as production companies on the film. Of course I've found tons of IMDb errors on smaller things, but what websites do you recommend for regular folks (not Hollywood insiders) to look up information like this, besides IMDb or Wikipedia? If you've got something more reliable, I'll start using it.

 

Yavar

JayLBFan.com

[Jay 45,820]

I think IMDB is pretty accurate for existing films, it can just be full of crap for upcoming films

 

IMDB clearly says Dreamworks and 20th have "Presents" credits for What Lies Beneath:

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0161081/companycredits/

 

Which is accurate and exactly what the poster says

 

 

So yeah.  They distributed the film made by ImageMovers.

 

 

Regardless, I looked at the back cover of the DE and it says © 2024 Dreamworks, LLC &  ℗ 2024 20th Century Studios.  No mention of Paramount at all!

 

And incidentally, when copying the poster's credit block onto the back cover of the DE, they dropped off the "Directed By Robert Zemeckis"  part and nobody noticed!