Jay 42,358 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 I think a combined thread for this news makes sense, as its currently being discussed in three different threads Yesterday, John Williams had eight upcoming concerts. Today, he has five, as the ones planned for July and August will no longer feature Williams on the podium 2024-07-12,13,14 Los Angeles, CA 2024-08-02,03 Lenox, MA 2024-08-06 Lenox, MA 2024-10-22 Chicago, IL 2024-10-25 Los Angeles, CA 2024-12-07, 08 Vienna, Austria 2025-04-03 Los Angeles, CA 2025-06-05, 06, 07 Berlin, Germany Official statement from the LA Phil: Due to a recent health concern, from which he is expected to make a full recovery, John Williams will be unable to perform at the Maestro of the Movie concerts at the Hollywood Bowl on July 12, 13, and 14, 2024. Maestro Williams originally planned to share the podium with conductor David Newman, who, at John’s request, has graciously agreed to conduct the entire concert. The program will otherwise remain unchanged. For any questions about this change, email Audience Services at information@laphil.org. Official statements from the Boston Pops: Due to a recent health concern, from which he is expected to make a full recovery, John Williams will be unable to perform his annual Film Night concerts at Tanglewood on August 2 and 3, 2024. At Maestro Williams’ request, conductor David Newman has graciously agreed to perform the second half of the program and will join conductor Ken-David Masur for these two special evenings. The program will otherwise remain unchanged. Please direct any questions to tickets@bso.org. & Due to a recent health concern, from which he is expected to make a full recovery, John Williams will be unable to participate in the Tanglewood on Parade concert on the evening of August 6, 2024. At Maestro Williams’ request, Ken-David Masur will join conductors Keith Lockhart, Alan Gilbert, and Anna Rakitina in leading the planned tribute to Seiji Ozawa. Please direct any questions to tickets@bso.org. It remains to be seen if his remaining US and overseas concerts will see any changes. apples, Will, Tydirium and 9 others 3 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,751 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 The Hollywood Bowl and Tanglewood announcements happened around the same time and used much of the same wording as each other, so we can hope that the other concerts would have done the same if they were affected, and that he's still intending to follow through with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,358 Posted June 4, 2024 Author Share Posted June 4, 2024 Yes, lets hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 7,278 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 Shades of 2015 when he had that operation and had to rest up for several weeks. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 9,308 Posted June 4, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2024 It's always disconcerting to hear about Williams having health issues, but 'expected to fully recover' is good news. Brando, Chewy, Yavar Moradi and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyD 1,527 Posted June 4, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2024 16 minutes ago, Thor said: It's always disconcerting to hear about Williams having health issues, but 'expected to fully recover' is good news. Fact. I’ll be praying for his full recovery; hopefully he’ll recover soon. Health is priority. Andy, Tom and WilliamsStarShip2282 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 5,591 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 I'll echo those sentiments. All hopes, prayers, and well wishes to him and his family. WilliamsStarShip2282 and Bellosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 908 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 Well, I of course hope the Maestro will be ok. It's hard to be in one's 90s and be so active! I am bummed to not see him on July 13 (my birthday weekend which starts with Force Awakes LTP in Seattle, then LA for the bowl and then off to Hawaii), but I like David Newman a lot. And hearing the Williams music at the Bowl is always a treat. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 2,011 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 I hope he does make a full recovery and that isn't just PR speak. I wish him the best. I feel very fortunate to have been able to see him conduct in-person at the Hollywood Bowl last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 7,278 Posted June 5, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2024 Trying not to be blindly hopeful but I think if it was really bad, the PR speak would have been to just leave it at "due to a recent health concern" or even more vague than that, "unforeseen circumstances." Whatever update he sent them, it must have included that recovery is expected. crumbs, Will, Brando and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,918 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 It must be something heavy if it is already clear that he won't be fully recovered in two Month from now. Could also be a broken finger or something like that. Anyway, I guess everyone here wishes him the best and a good recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,524 Posted June 5, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2024 Let's wish him good health and full recovery. bigjimwilson, Ian Stouffer, WilliamsStarShip2282 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,960 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 Now that the day of the official cancellation thread has come, let us remain full of hope, confidence and gratitude! Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,358 Posted June 5, 2024 Author Share Posted June 5, 2024 No new info here but it is being reported on now https://www.berkshireeagle.com/arts_and_culture/berkshirelandscapes/john-williams-bows-out-of-tanglewood-dates-cites-recovery-from-illness/article_c869c036-22a5-11ef-901b-6bfe911ab223.html BB-8 and Davis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 9,168 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 Fingers crossed for Johnny's health. At least it isn't as sudden of an announcement as London in 2018. Perhaps, they are just playing it safe given his age. And they should. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 11,343 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, crocodile said: At least it isn't as sudden of an announcement as London in 2018. Perhaps, they are just playing it safe given his age. And they should. As much as I'd like to go to Vienna again... should he be travelling this far that much? Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 5,591 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 8 minutes ago, Holko said: As much as I'd like to go to Vienna again... should he be travelling this far that much? If he wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,960 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 7 minutes ago, Holko said: As much as I'd like to go to Vienna again... should he be travelling this far that much? And he could be covered by Adès this time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,960 Posted June 5, 2024 Share Posted June 5, 2024 2024-10-22 Chicago, IL 2024-10-25 Los Angeles, CA 2024-12-07, 08 Vienna, Austria 2025-04-03 Los Angeles, CA 2025-06-05, 06, 07 Berlin, Germany Am I right in thinking that Berlin would be the only solo appearance? Davis and apples 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davis 3,949 Posted June 5, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2024 We all knew this would happen eventually... he is 92 years old after all... every day is a gift at that age... I really hope he will get better soon and will be able to make a lot of people happy at the remaining concerts. May the Force be with the Maestro! On 04/06/2024 at 9:07 PM, Jay said: Yesterday, John Williams had eight upcoming concerts. Today, he has five He still has eight. 1. 2024-10-22 Chicago, IL 2. 2024-10-25 Los Angeles, CA 3. & 4. 2024-12-07, 08 Vienna, Austria 5. 2025-04-03 Los Angeles, CA 6., 7. & 8. 2025-06-05, 06, 07 Berlin, Germany Yavar Moradi, apples, Tydirium and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Director of Poltergeist 8,048 Posted June 6, 2024 Share Posted June 6, 2024 JW is ill. Very concerning. Davis and apples 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,899 Posted June 6, 2024 Share Posted June 6, 2024 Just to keep things in perspective, if it was more serious than I think the rest of his concerts would have been cancelled too. Get well soon John! bollemanneke and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,949 Posted June 6, 2024 Share Posted June 6, 2024 It's June 6th and he won't be able to attend his August 6th concert two months from now. I think it's pretty serious. Besides, everything is serious when you are 92. Even a common cold or a broken ankle. Get well soon, Maestro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 645 Posted June 6, 2024 Share Posted June 6, 2024 Yeah, even though they "expect him to make a full recovery", what else are you going to write there? "We regret to inform you that John Williams has to cancel his appearance at this concert. He's totally going to die soon. It ain't lookin' good." ? bollemanneke and QuartalHarmony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Once 898 Posted June 6, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2024 I really don't like to speculate on these things, but I'd say that "X amount of time off work" is a pretty usual "doctor's orders". We can't deduce anything from this. Like he was told to take 7 weeks off work after his pacemaker operation. Of course I wish him a fast recovery, no matter what! MaxTheHouseelf, Mr. Hooper, Marian Schedenig and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,999 Posted June 6, 2024 Share Posted June 6, 2024 Honestly, this is why I find it absurd to announce Vienna and Berlin concerts at this point. And this is also why I'm not booking them. Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,960 Posted June 6, 2024 Share Posted June 6, 2024 They can't be booked at this point anyway. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 7,278 Posted June 6, 2024 Share Posted June 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Once said: I really don't like to speculate on these things, but I'd say that "X amount of time off work" is a pretty usual "doctor's orders". We can't deduce anything from this. Like he was told to take 7 weeks off work after his pacemaker operation. Of course I wish him a fast recovery, no matter what! I noted this in another thread but the wording is also vague enough that it might be referring to something coming up between now and the concerts. Like it's a recent health concern and whatever he needs to help with it is recoverable but it'll take him out for the rest of the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,524 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 It must be his heart. The pacemaker probably needs replacement or new battery. Oh the woes of old age and yet we expect so much from him. The maestro deserves loads of rest. I wish him good health. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Director of Poltergeist 8,048 Posted June 7, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2024 He is elderly and near death, that's the reality. He should be at home in bed, not being carted around and waving a stick on a stage. rpvee, Smeltington, Davis and 2 others 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 5,949 Posted June 7, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2024 Yes, precisely. Like Willy Wonka’s grandfather. Just stay in bed. Edmilson, MikeH, Brando and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 5,591 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 24 minutes ago, Brock Lovett said: He is elderly and near death, that's the reality. He should be at home in bed, not being carted around and waving a stick on a stage. Yes, because lying in bed is such a more desirable way to die than doing what you love. Yavar Moradi and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,459 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 14 minutes ago, Andy said: Yes, precisely. Like Willy Wonka’s grandfather. Just stay in bed. Do you mean Charlie Bucket? That bed has to be nasty… Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Director of Poltergeist 8,048 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, Tom said: Yes, because lying in bed is such a more desirable way to die than doing what you love. I'm not sure what you mean, I don't want him to die. If he does croak, I'd prefer it be in comfort. Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rpvee 933 Posted June 7, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2024 It very well could just be a pacemaker update/replacement. It’s already been the better part of a decade since he first got his. Fingers crossed that’s all it is, and that he will indeed make a full recovery and be back on the podium healthy and sound later this year. Best wishes to the Maestro, as always! GerateWohl, Mr. Hooper, Will and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 5,022 Posted June 7, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2024 1 hour ago, Brock Lovett said: He should be at home in bed, not being carted around and waving a stick on a stage. The only time he's been carted was away from the Koussevitzky Music Shed after Film Night—in a golf cart. And if his health permits it, I'm pretty sure he'd rather wave a stick onstage than wait in bed for the inevitable. Marian Schedenig, Brando, rpvee and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,949 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 4 hours ago, rpvee said: It very well could just be a pacemaker update/replacement. It doesn’t require a two month-rest. My Father had lots of heart-related procedures during his life and he never had to take two months off afterward. 4 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said: I'm pretty sure he'd rather wave a stick onstage than wait in bed for the inevitable. Or he could be with his family, spending as much time with them as possible, while he still can. A concert is just a concert, but being with your family is precious time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,918 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 My grandma broke her foot at the age of 103. And she needed just about 6 weeks to recover. But the broken foot wasn't the big issue after all. The problem at such a high age are the side effects of taking a rest for such a long time. Whatever it is, at high age it costs a lot to stay mobile and keep your body doing everything it must do. So any kind of forced long rest at high age is poison for your body. But Williams is a comparably young man and I guess all this recovery and mobilization time is already priced in into these two Month. So, we shouldn't worry too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,949 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 49 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: But Williams is a comparably young man 49 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: she needed just about 6 weeks to recover. For the record, if a 13-year-old breaks their foot it needs 6-8 weeks to fully heal as well. I'm 42 and I broke my baby toe in December, and it took 8 weeks to heal and it sometimes still hurts. 49 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: The problem at such a high age are the side effects of taking a rest for such a long time. 49 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: any kind of forced long rest at high age is poison for your body. Absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 9,308 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 I'm reminded of Williams' own words at the Oscars pre-party in 2016, where Morricone was also present: Quote “I’m particularly happy today to congratulate all the nominees, particularly a gentleman who has been such a great inspiration to all of us younger composers,” said Williams from the podium, getting a big laugh (Morricone is roughly three years older). https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/john-williams-pays-tribute-ennio-morricone-pre-oscars-190137350.html GerateWohl and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,827 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 It could be somekind of surgery where he has to take it easy for a while, or he fell and broke something. Travelling and conducting concerts is difficult at 91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,949 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 46 minutes ago, King Mark said: Travelling and conducting concerts is difficult at 91. Even more difficult at 92. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyD 1,527 Posted June 7, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2024 Perhaps the best thing to do is stop with the speculation and take the official announcements for what they state. It is nothing more than a health concern from which he needs to take some time off for and is expected to make a full recovery. Do not speculate about anything worse. Marian Schedenig, Holko, Chewy and 9 others 6 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 5,591 Posted June 7, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2024 8 hours ago, Brock Lovett said: I'm not sure what you mean, I don't want him to die. If he does croak, I'd prefer it be in comfort. Your comments seem to suggest that he is not freely choosing to continue to score movies (other thread) and conduct (this thread), and that he would be happier being retired and resting. My view is that he if he wants to compose and conduct (even if it is riskier for his health), then great. Elderly people are too often stripped of their freedom by younger people in the name of health and comfort. ricsim88, Marian Schedenig, Yavar Moradi and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,949 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Elderly people often don’t know their limitations and can easily cause harm to themselves by thinking that they are still capable of doing things that they used to be able to do when they were younger. Younger people want to keep them healthy and strong so they can be with them for a long time. It’s called caring for our loved ones. It can be done in a respectful manner without hurting the elderly person’s freedom or dignity. Back to JW: I hope it’s nothing too serious, but as I have said before, at 92 everything is or can be serious. If he fell and broke his wrist or ankle, or if he caught a cold or got pneumonia, it is very serious at his age. If he needs two months to fully recover, it is serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 4,960 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 10 hours ago, Brock Lovett said: He is elderly and near death, that's the reality. He should be at home in bed, not being carted around and waving a stick on a stage. But the Bowl would be just down the street unless travelling from Tanglewood. Perhaps open air conditions with expected high temperatures are a serious show stopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smeltington 1,751 Posted June 7, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2024 59 minutes ago, BB-8 said: But the Bowl would be just down the street unless travelling from Tanglewood. But Tanglewood is just down West Street, on the left. BB-8, Amer and Bayesian 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,999 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 2 hours ago, JohnnyD said: Perhaps the best thing to do is stop with the speculation and take the official announcements for what they state. It is nothing more than a health concern from which he needs to take some time off for and is expected to make a full recovery. Do not speculate about anything worse. That's not how JWFan goes about it! But I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrej 56 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 On 04/06/2024 at 9:07 PM, Jay said: 2024-10-25 Los Angeles, CA Am I missing something? Any info on this performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,358 Posted June 7, 2024 Author Share Posted June 7, 2024 1 hour ago, Andrej said: Am I missing something? Any info on this performance? https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/36786-from-mexico-to-hollywood-golden-age-cinema-los-angeles-philharmonic-orchestra-concert-curated-by-john-williams-and-gustavo-dudamel-october-25-27-2024/ Can always find all info about all upcoming concerts in this thread: https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/33860-find-a-thread-information-catalog-all-upcoming-recent-john-williams-works-concerts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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