John Williams canceled concerts 2024

[BB-8 3,832]

2 hours ago, Alex said:

After the SW sequels I basically made peace with the fact that JW may not be with us much longer. Anything after those I consider a bonus in what I’d describe as the epilogue of his career.

 

Best case scenario he’s just tinkering around on the piano for the next few months.

 

...because Steven has asked him to do so for his next film and scoring always comes first.

[Yavar Moradi 2,879]

On 07/06/2024 at 7:57 PM, Brock Lovett said:

This forum has always had a problem with Williams not doing concerts or scores for decades now despite health concerns and by God, I think that's a bit selfish. He should have retired 20 years ago.

 

It's not selfish if he is doing what HE wants. I mean, from 20 years ago to 10 years ago he did a lot of WONDERFUL work, including:

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

The Terminal

Memoirs of a Geisha

War of the Worlds

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

The Adventures of Tintin

War Horse

Lincoln

The Book Thief

 

Heck, even 9 years ago he did Star Wars: The Force Awakens... easily the best Star Wars score since The Empire Strikes Back, IMO. And its two follow-ups, while not quite on the same level, are also excellent, as were his smaller contributions to Solo, Galaxy's Edge, and the Obi-Wan Kenobi series.

 

What should he have retired to do? Travel and see the world? He does that! Nobody is holding a gun to his head and making him compose more Star Wars music; he is doing it because he *wants* to. I'll be very happy if he decides to do the upcoming Rey film. I suspect that continuing to be creative and mentally engaged has only been helping his longevity, and if he had retired 20 years ago I wouldn't have been too surprised if he'd already passed away.

 

Yavar

 

[Mr. Hooper 3,008]

5 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

I'll be very happy if he decides to do the upcoming Rey film.

[Ollie 1,106]

Unfortunately we all know the day is going to come when Williams is no longer with us. 
 

Let’s enjoy the fact that he is still with us and as mentioned in a previous post, keep him in your thoughts, prayers and well wishes. 
 

I would also encourage and say, people should continue to do things that they enjoy as long as they are physically and mentally able to do so.

 

Don’t live your golden years stuck inside because of other issues. Take precautions to stay healthy but don’t shutter your life. 

 

I watched my vibrant 80+ year old mother become a shell of herself when she was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer’s and just gave up when she had several good years ahead of her to still enjoy what she loved. 
 

 

 

 

[Yavar Moradi 2,879]

3 hours ago, Alex said:

Best case scenario he’s just tinkering around on the piano for the next few months.

 

How on earth is that "best case scenario"? American concert hall composer Elliot Carter lived to be almost 104, 12 years older than Williams is right now... and he stayed active composing until just a few months before his death. His last completed work was a piano trio piece called Epigrams, which he finished on August 13, 2012, before passing away on November 5, 2012.

 

Nobody's saying Williams has to keep writing large scale orchestral works. Miklos Rozsa famously stopped writing orchestral works after his Viola Concerto and Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid... but he still kept composing smaller chamber works for another 7 years afterwards, up through the end of the 1980s (eventually passing away half a decade after he apparently stopped composing).

 

Yavar

[Davis 2,758]

6 minutes ago, Ollie said:

 

I watched my vibrant 80+ year old mother become a shell of herself when she was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer’s and just gave up when she had several good years ahead of her to still enjoy what she loved. 

I’m so sorry…

[Mr. Hooper 3,008]

8 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

How on earth is that "best case scenario"?

I think he means the "best case scenario" while he recuperates from whatever ailment he has right now.

[Bayesian 1,422]

I’m confident all will be well with JW and his remaining concert schedule will proceed as planned. The man’s got good genes (as evidenced by his long-lived mother, at least) and proximal access to the some of the best care available in the country (by way of UCLA). His PR team going out of its way to state that he’s expected to make a full recovery may be just spin, but the preponderance of evidence suggests it could also be actually true. So, yes, I remain confident all will be well, and come end of February I will be engaged in a desperate no-holds-barred fight to secure tickets to JW/BPO. 

[Mr. Hooper 3,008]

3 minutes ago, Bayesian said:

So, yes, I remain confident all will be well, and come end of February I will be engaged in a desperate no-holds-barred fight to secure tickets to JW/BPO. 

Let's hope. But honestly, after this announcement, I'm not sure I can entertain the notion of going to Europe anymore.

[Damien F 1,763]

I think my days of travelling from Ireland to the US for JW concerts are over. That travel is a significant cost but the risk is too high now that the concert might be cancelled. 

 

His European concerts are different though because I can spend a day or two in Berlin / Vienna fairly cheaply from Dublin.

[ocelot 549]

There is one piece that he has finished writing and recording with YoYoMa. We at least have that to absorb and love. 

[ricsim88 255]

20 minutes ago, ocelot said:

There is one piece that he has finished writing and recording with YoYoMa. We at least have that to absorb and love. 

I definitely don’t want to speculate, but your posts do seem a bit ominous.

[Andy 5,005]

21 minutes ago, ricsim88 said:

I definitely don’t want to speculate, but your posts do seem a bit ominous.

They do indeed. @ocelot is frankly freaking me out with each post.   I’m sure he means well, but it’s messing with my head. 

[ocelot 549]

I'm sorry guys. I don't mean to be. I'm not sure how else to put anything.

 

[Davis 2,758]

3 minutes ago, ocelot said:

And think underwater.

😮

[BB-8 3,832]

3 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

Let's hope. But honestly, after this announcement, I'm not sure I can entertain the notion of going to Europe anymore.

No one thought that Milan was ever going to happen when it was cancelled but it did in the end.

 

 

[Damien F 1,763]

16 minutes ago, ocelot said:

I'm sorry guys. I don't mean to be. I'm not sure how else to put anything.

 

 

Without mentioning any private or confidential information, are you privy to information not released to the public or are your posts based only on your speculation?

[mrbellamy 6,645]

This is why it's frankly better not to say anything if you can't say anything. 

 

I'd like him to share with us what he doesn't know for sure rather than keep hinting at what he apparently does. 

[Mr. Hooper 3,008]

39 minutes ago, BB-8 said:

No one thought that Milan was ever going to happen when it was cancelled but it did in the end.

I had a nagging worry in the back of my mind up until Williams stepped onstage at Tanglewood last year, and New York in February—neither of which involved a transatlantic flight... I'd probably be on pins and needles waiting for him to take the stage in Berlin.

 

On the other hand, it would be the best gift, since my birthday is just a few days earlier.

 

Decisions, decisions...

[Davis 2,758]

1 hour ago, mrbellamy said:

This is why it's frankly better not to say anything.

Fixed.

 

If JW wants the public to know anything about his health, he will let his agent know.

[ocelot 549]

2 hours ago, Damien F said:

 

Without mentioning any private or confidential information, are you privy to information not released to the public or are your posts based only on your speculation?

Not speculation but as others have said and they are right, if I cannot say everything, why say anything, I apologize. I just know how I would be if I didn't know so I was attempting to say it's more than is thought of on here, but that's where I then step in it. Sorry. I will not say anymore xox

1 hour ago, mrbellamy said:

This is why it's frankly better not to say anything if you can't say anything. 

 

I'd like him to share with us what he doesn't know for sure rather than keep hinting at what he apparently does. 

Agreed, my apologies.

[Mr. Hooper 3,008]

7 minutes ago, ocelot said:

I just know how I would be if I didn't know so I was attempting to say it's more than is thought of on here, but that's where I then step in it. Sorry. I will not say anymore xox

Nothing to apologize for. Speaking for myself, I'm naturally concerned, and curious to know the severity of the situation, but I fully appreciate that it's a personal matter.

 

I'll just do as you said earlier, and keep him in my thoughts and prayers.

[mrbellamy 6,645]

If whatever happened is bad, it's bad. Cancelling an October concert in June sounds pretty bad. But they are telling us full recovery is expected and so while I know as well as anyone that "expected" is not the same thing as "guaranteed," I'm just gonna take that at face value and hope for the best. 

[Andy 5,005]

This sucks

[Tom 4,966]

18 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

If whatever happened is bad, it's bad. Cancelling an October concert in June sounds pretty bad. But they are telling us full recovery is expected and so while I know as well as anyone that "expected" is not the same thing as "guaranteed," I'm just gonna take that at face value and hope for the best. 

If they could guarantee recovery, then whoever "they" are would be trillionaires.   

[mrbellamy 6,645]

Now would be a REALLY good time for them to figure out how to do that 

[BLUMENKOHL 1,081]

This thread is a dumpster fire. 

[John Dutton 7,218]

So now everyone is upset because of a cryptic poster I never heard of.

[ocelot 549]

32 minutes ago, Brock Lovett said:

So now everyone is upset because of a cryptic poster I never heard of.

/gasp! How dare you not know who I am!!!! I've been here since the stone age.....

 

Again, sorry about that, I live in LA, I am a composer, word travels fast underground from players on sessions through composers we know etc etc.

[John Dutton 7,218]

The only LA composer I know is Brian Tyler who messaged me on FB years ago rather pathetically referencing Star Trek DS9.

[ocelot 549]

We are a dime a dozen here, but it was said as a joke either way, lol, it's not like I am scoring movies, only my friends, family and industry people know me. Relax. If you are upset about the news, it's understandable, we all are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[John Dutton 7,218]

I want only the best for JW

[ocelot 549]

4 minutes ago, Brock Lovett said:

I want only the best for JW

As we all do Brock.

 

 

[Davis 2,758]

I just want to say that I feel lucky and honoured to be a part of this special community. It moves me deeply to see how much you all are concerned for John Williams’s well-being. You are the best. Love you all.

[Yavar Moradi 2,879]

10 hours ago, Brock Lovett said:

The only LA composer I know is Brian Tyler who messaged me on FB years ago rather pathetically referencing Star Trek DS9.

I know Tyler’s a big Trekkie, but how does one pathetically reference DS9, exactly?

[Jay 38,847]

4 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

I know Tyler’s a big Trekkie, but how does one pathetically reference DS9, exactly?

 

https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27909-apparently-brian-tyler-messaged-me-on-facebook

[aj_vader 560]

I concur it really is heart warming the care for Mr.Williams on this thread/forum.

 

I don't think I've ever cared about someone so much that I don't actually know. A testement to the great John Williams, enriching many lives through his music. 

 

Get well soon Maestro! 

 

[QuartalHarmony 643]

Judging by the footage I saw of of a certain world leader getting off a plane yesterday and trying to negotiate a welcome party without looking like he'd been recently revivified, JW is doing very well indeed for someone 11 years older. His only 'moments' seem to be when trying to recall something he clearly doesn't care about, like which episode number ESB is.

[BB-8 3,832]

And the humid heat in Tokyo (while dressed in a black turtleneck under a white jacket) plus the jet-lag apparently made him look older than usual.

[Naïve Old Fart 10,238]

I can predict, confidently, that JW will be up and about like a Spring chicken, in no time.

He's already looking forward to conducting at the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics.

[Mr. Hooper 3,008]

4 hours ago, QuartalHarmony said:

His only 'moments' seem to be when trying to recall something he clearly doesn't care about, like which episode number ESB is.

And I suspect that mixing up the episode numbers is just part of his concert shtick.

[Davis 2,758]

I just talked to a very famous film composer whom I won’t name, who said that he doesn’t know what’s going on with JW, either. It could either mean that he really doesn’t know or just as well that he doesn’t want to share it out of respect for JW’s privacy. If it’s the latter, that’s exactly what I would do, too.
In either case, let’s just wait and hope for the best.

[Andy 5,005]

59 minutes ago, Davis said:

I just talked to a very famous film composer whom I won’t name, who said that he doesn’t know what’s going on with JW, either. It could either mean that he really doesn’t know or just as well that he doesn’t want to share it out of respect for JW’s privacy. If it’s the latter, that’s exactly what I would do, too.
In either case, let’s just wait and hope for the best.

Zimmer refuses to disclose that John got food poisoning from Chipotle confirmed!

[Mr. Hooper 3,008]

1 hour ago, Davis said:

I just talked to a very famous film composer whom I won’t name

We have ways of making you talk.

 

 

 

[Taikomochi 1,185]

I would not expect other film composers to just know what is going on with JW at any given moment, major or not. I doubt JW maintains a besties text chain lol

[Andy 5,005]

“I’m not feeling well at all.  I should call Tyler Bates. “

[Davis 2,758]

3 minutes ago, Taikomochi said:

I would not expect other film composers to just know what is going on with JW at any given moment, major or not. I doubt JW maintains a besties text chain lol

It’s not how it works. The film composer I talked to, more than likely knows. 

[Taikomochi 1,185]

You’ve literally just said they do not know lol. In my opinion, they coulda said no comment if they didn’t wanna share private info. 

[mrbellamy 6,645]

It wouldn't surprise me that the specific reason for JW cancelling these dates is making its way through the grapevine of the film and music industries, but that in itself can be very suspect. 

[John Dutton 7,218]

I heard it through the gravevine