Popular Post Jofi_ 45 Posted June 15 Popular Post Share Posted June 15 I never noticed this before, but in the Sorcerer's Stone cue 8m4 The Mirror Scene, the trombones are playing Hedwig's Theme underneath all the rest of the orchestra playing Voldemort's Theme/general harmonization. I never would have noticed this without the score - its something that you don't really pay attention to, since it adds to the harmony perfectly! Such a classic JW moment. I stand by my opinion that the Harry Potter soundtracks are some of his best works. (timestamped moment) johnmillions, ins, enderdrag64 and 19 others 17 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,873 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,603 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Great find! That cue is pretty dense, with a lot going on. It probably deserves a closer look than I've given it. 2 hours ago, Jofi_ said: I stand by my opinion that the Harry Potter soundtracks are some of his best works. A thousand times yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,719 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 It does happen in these kinds of works that there's a thematic reference buried so deep in the texture that its really just there for the composer's satisfaction than to communicate anything aesthetically to the listener: its the equivalent of how set designers put more detail into a set than can be seen on the screen (e.g. Stanley Kubrick putting things into drawers that would never be opened on-camera). When Isolde finds the dying Tristan, its very, very rare that the recall of Brangane's watch can be at all heard under the brass blaring the "Todgeweihtes Haupt." Heck, the final cadence of the piece: who in the world could tell that the cor anglais - alone of all the instruments - isn't playing, to symbolise the end of the longing? I think there's a recording of Karajan complaining about this very thing ("if you can't hear it, its bad!"). But its definitely a thing in compositions. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,603 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 I love when stuff like this is hiding in plain sight, for us to find years later! There's a lot to reward repeated listens. Williams may indeed have amused himself with this, and it also reminds me of this Jim Steinman quote: Quote Every record I do I figure you should put in one thing for the kid, the teenager in Wisconsin who's in bed listening on headphones 'cause his parents don't want to hear the music and he's got, he's smoked a little dope and he's got the covers over his head and he's listening in the dark. I always think of the kid in Wisconsin. There's gotta be something for him and basically I always think the kid in Wisconsin still exists in the widower in Miami, the nurse in Kansas, the 50 year old business woman in Texas. Plus I would suggest that our subconscious might have already heard it! Cerebral Cortex and mrbellamy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,719 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 minutes ago, Smeltington said: Plus I would suggest that our subconscious might have already heard it! That's the premise of writing densly-thematic music, yeah: that we're subconsciously aware of the recalls that are going on, even without being able to articulate it all. But there are cases where the motivic ideas are just not at all audible, and its REALLY just there for excrements and chortles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,741 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 JW sprinkling in Hedwigs like they're hidden mickeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,365 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Probably just an orchestrator having a good time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWScores 41 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 10 hours ago, Jofi_ said: I never noticed this before, but in the Sorcerer's Stone cue 8m4 The Mirror Scene, the trombones are playing Hedwig's Theme underneath all the rest of the orchestra playing Voldemort's Theme/general harmonization. I never would have noticed this without the score - its something that you don't really pay attention to, since it adds to the harmony perfectly! Such a classic JW moment. I stand by my opinion that the Harry Potter soundtracks are some of his best works. (timestamped moment) It has always been one of my very favourite cues from Harry Potter. The build-up and that explosion of intensity, the way they are realized, are phenomenal. It's not easy at all to come up with those harmonic ideas, compositionally speaking. Inspired and inspiring. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,304 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Wow, I never noticed that before. Awesome find! Like Jabba's theme in TPM, it's impossible to miss once you hear it. But I've been listening to that cue for 23 years (Jesus Christ...) and never picked up on it before. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 9,134 Posted June 15 Popular Post Share Posted June 15 This has made me want to listen to Philosopher's Stone again. Such a magnificent, marvelous score! Smeltington, Trope and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 692 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 23 hours ago, Jofi_ said: I never would have noticed this without the score Is the score available, beyond the HL suite movements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,624 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Huh! Great find indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,764 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Cool find, I love JWFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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