Dinosaur Expansion from Intrada September 17th, 2024!

[Brando 2,703]

From Roger:

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As team Intrada heads off to Scotland next week to record Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, here's a sneak peak of what our next releases will be come Sept. 17th.

 

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[Edmilson 11,393]

 

[A. A. Ron 2,408]

No way!! I fucking love this score!

[Yavar Moradi 4,081]

And a (previously unreleased) Talgorn score!

 

Yavar

[Edmilson 11,393]

This is interesting. Disney clearly doesn't care enough about this movie to release it under their "Legacy Collection" (that is, considering they still will be doing more Legacy in the future) and has no problems licensing it to a specialty label.

 

If this is true, then Intrada theoretically might be able to do other forgotten animated movies that Disney doesn't care like Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, The Emperor's New Groove, etc.

[bruce marshall 1,959]

BLACK PANTHERS, dammitt!

[Tallguy 6,587]

Star Wars expansions CONFIRMED!

 

(Yeah, Treasure Planet and Atlantis would be awesome.)

[Bellosh 4,465]

Great score 🦕 

[Tallguy 6,587]

Damn it. I did the thing. A score is announced and I yammered about what I want next.

I never got into Dinosaurs but I love JNH and I gather this is considered by some to be his masterpiece.

[Brando 2,703]

This movie and Toy Story were the 2 movies I watched repeatedly according to my mom and even when I was really little I knew the music was great. So many fun cues. It's being dismantled but the Dinosar ride area at Animal Kingdom, Disney World would play certain tracks while waiting in line outisde the ride building.

[A. A. Ron 2,408]

I had some unrelated Disney movie on VHS that had the first few scenes of Dinosaur on it as a sort of trailer and I would get the tape out just to watch that trailer over and over. I was about 7 and unbelievably excited for the movie. It was actually pretty disappointing when I finally saw it and the dinosaurs started talking/doing the usual cutesy Disney nonsense instead of just acting like animals as they had in the trailer, but the music and effects blew my mind and the cue for the egg traveling sequence is still a favorite of mine to this day.

[Brando 2,703]

Honestly, the effects still hold up, aside for looking realllllyyy closely at the dinosaurs, but you can find similar instances like that in Jurassic Park.

[Naïve Old Fart 12,485]

1 hour ago, Tallguy said:

Star Wars expansions CONFIRMED!

 

(Yeah, Treasure Planet and Atlantis would be awesome.)

 

ATLANTIS would be awesome, but in the meantime, I'm happy with DINOSAUR. 

A great score from an underrated film.

[igger6 1,027]

Woohoo!!  This is a Grail for me!  I was already a teenager by the time this movie came out, crashing in like a merciless Y2K comet to end the Disney Renaissance, but man, I watched that trailer, too (it was on the Tarzan VHS, if arithmetic serves), and when the egg hits the water and the strings kick in on "The Egg Travels," my heart genuinely leapt.  It was like the moment the kids hear the name "Aslan" for the first time in The Chronicles of Narnia.  I kid you not, it was a major marker on my path to film score fandom, and it's still a stirring moment for me. 

 

For some reason, years ago, I started playing the track for my niece whenever I would handle her nighttime routine with her, and I narrated the story of that scene (omitting the mama dinosaur's violent death, of course) until "the egg song" became a favorite of her and her subsequent siblings.  None of them knew it was from a movie until—coincidentally—earlier this very evening, when we were watching Once Upon a Studio, and I identified Aladar in the closing shot as the dinosaur who was in the egg in the egg song.  "Wait, there's a whole movie of that?" my niece said.

 

What a day!

[Ravi Krishna 101]

Wow, I can't believe it! This was the very first movie I ever watched in the theatre when I was 11 and I absolutely adore the score! One of the very first ones that turned me into a film score fan and a JNH fan. Back in the day I searched so hard for the OST CD in music stores here in India, but was unsuccessful until my aunt got it for me from the US.

 

Just a few weeks back, I revisited the movie and score and was thinking how awesome it would be if the score received an official complete release. It will be great to finally have all those great unreleased cues like Playing Monster, Aladar Meets The Herd, and Enough For Everyone officially on CD. 

[Holko 11,836]

Never seen the movie but streamed the the OST a couple times and loved it. Instabuy.

[crumbs 15,853]

Legitimately great score, and it might be nostalgia speaking but (as a kid) I really enjoyed the film too! Never understood why all the critics hated it, but I guess it's a film made for kids after all.

 

JNH really knocked this out of the park though, especially that Egg Travels cue. Hopefully this has even more material than the session leak.

[crocodile 9,481]

That's really great, definitely something I'm interested in. Hopefully, that means both Atlantis and The Treasure Planet might be coming as well.

 

Karol

[Incanus 5,884]

Great news! Looking forward to this! And as other have said, hope this bodes well for both Atlantis and Treasure Planet expansions.  

[Richard P 5,060]

I'll be the Thor stand-in this time round - I came across the boot years ago and never thought that it had too much to offer on top of the beautifully constructed album. Perhaps one or two cues here or there felt like they offered some additional ideas. Hence I'm nowhere near excited about this as you guys.

 

But otoh this was one of my first soundtrack CDs which saw me into uni (20 years ago, very close to the day in fact). It's also got a really nice end credit suite which I don't think is tracked, and would be lovely to have as a properly mastered track, so I'll certainly consider a purchase once I see what it's got.

[Romão 2,447]

I love the score, but is there anything worthwhile missing? The hobby is getting so expensive these days

[Jay 44,713]

THESE DAYS!?

[Evanus 422]

Fuck yes.

 

That is all.

[Romão 2,447]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

THESE DAYS!?

 

Yes, specially for those living outside the US. Shipping costs are higher than ever and a few years ago, a package with a cd could quite often not be picked up by customs, while now, every single package, no matter how small or the value, always gets taxed.

 

So yeah, it's more expensive than it was, say, 10 years ago

[Richard P 5,060]

I seem to be lucky with customs as I haven't been hit since sometime significantly before Covid.

 

But yes, it's the shipping costs that are strangling this hobby.

 

51 minutes ago, Romão said:

I love the score, but is there anything worthwhile missing? The hobby is getting so expensive these days

 

I had another skim on YT and it struck me as largely more of the same material. I don't think anything essential is missing, personally. Quashes my hope that the JNH would be The Village as I think that one needs expanding way more, but anything officially expanded is a good thing.

[Cristian 68]

Great news! 

 

Atlantis and Treasure Planet next please!

 

[Edmilson 11,393]

27 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

 

I had another skim on YT and it struck me as largely more of the same material. I don't think anything essential is missing, personally

The worst thing about the OST is that it excludes the cue for the final confrontation with the carnotaur. The OST only has the Krona and Aladar confrontation, but not the score for when the carnotaur joins the fight IIRC. Pretty good action cue that for some reason got excluded (not for time constraints, the album only lasts for 51 minutes).

 

Also, according to Wikipedia, there's a Kate Bush song for when Aladar and his family mourn the destruction of their island that went unused. Maybe this expansion is where we'll first hear it?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_(2000_film)#Music

[tomsmoviemadness 4,573]

This is fantastic! I can't wait to hear the cue when the herd is seen for the first time. That is such a fantastic cue!

[GerateWohl 6,361]

1 hour ago, Romão said:

I love the score, but is there anything worthwhile missing? The hobby is getting so expensive these days

I confess, meanwhile the publishing of expansions for me is a trigger a search for cheap sold second hand OSTs.

[Richard P 5,060]

26 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

The worst thing about the OST is that it excludes the cue for the final confrontation with the carnotaur. The OST only has the Krona and Aladar confrontation, but not the score for when the carnotaur joins the fight IIRC. Pretty good action cue that for some reason got excluded (not for time constraints, the album only lasts for 51 minutes).

 

Are you sure? This playlist has two tracks labelled with Carnotaur and both are on the OST - one named differently. The impression I got was that this one was the only action cue missing from the album:

 

 

Anyway, FSM has chatter about the end titles - I'm confident it's an original suite so very much hope it's included in this set.

[Marian Schedenig 11,142]

1 hour ago, Romão said:

I love the score, but is there anything worthwhile missing? The hobby is getting so expensive these days

 

If it's soundtrack prices you're worried about, I guess you don't have to pay for LEGO entirely yourself.

 

1 hour ago, Romão said:

Yes, specially for those living outside the US. Shipping costs are higher than ever and a few years ago, a package with a cd could quite often not be picked up by customs, while now, every single package, no matter how small or the value, always gets taxed.

 

That's all true, but overall, the cost has stayed the same for me, or probably even gotten lower - simply because there's so much less stuff coming out these days that I'm interested in. Most of my Label releases I buy with one or two big orders per year.

 

I guess I'm lucky that when the Labels were flooding the market with premiere releases virtually every week, I hadn't yet gotten back into LEGO and could afford to stay on top of everything I wanted to have, plus work on the backlog of stuff I was still missing (and replacing old CDRs with original copies, often used ones, which back then were still affordable for Europeans at SAE).

 

These days, with the likes of Goldsmith and Goldenthal gone or retired, and FSM's big Golden Age restoration programme long past, I buy much fewer soundtracks.

[tomsmoviemadness 4,573]

3 hours ago, Edmilson said:

The worst thing about the OST is that it excludes the cue for the final confrontation with the carnotaur. The OST only has the Krona and Aladar confrontation, but not the score for when the carnotaur joins the fight IIRC. Pretty good action cue that for some reason got excluded (not for time constraints, the album only lasts for 51 minutes).

 That's on the original album. It's Raptors / Stand Together from 1:17 onward. The film version has a sliggtly different opening, but other than that, it's the same cue.

 

 

 

 

[Sunshine Reger 3,697]

10 reasons to love this score:

 

1. best mickeymousing job ever done in a Disney film

2. best JW-style love theme not by JW

3. Courtship

4. Breakout

5. Across the Desert

6. the damn Egg Travels

7. main / hope theme

8. herd theme

9. asteroid motif

10. The slapping end credits suite

 

 

I have probably written this many times before, but the film is my only childhood favourite that stood the test of time for me, thanks to its premise, visuals, and music.

 

A visceral post-apocalyptic tale dedicated to highlighting compassion as a risky but worthwhile aspect of leadership, filled with beautiful natural vistas and uncommonly noble music?

 

How many films for kids are there with this specific lesson and panache?

 

Sure, it's probably a predictable pile of garbage for the unfriendly neighbourhood nihilist, and a ticket price loss for that specific cohort of people misled 24 years ago by a trailer to expect an Animal Planet documentary.

 

But I think it is actually not too shabby for what might have been the most expensive film per minute ever at the time. It's a picture that a film megacorp of today would not have the brains (or cojones) to make.

 

An expansion of the score was long overdue.

 

As the director said (paraphrasing) "James probably should have gotten a writing credit".

[ThePenitentMan1 1,454]

This is a film that I was hardly even aware of growing up.  I think I might like it based on the discussion here, though.

 

Might even be worth a blind buy.

[Andy 6,866]

When this movie came out, I was 28. Not yet a parent, so it was too late for me and too early for my child, who was never into Dinos.  So I’ve never seen the film.  I do have the OST but I’m not sure I ever listened to the whole thing.  I wonder how it plays completely out of context. 
 

Still, I recognize how dear this is to people who enjoyed it in their formative years. I can imagine how excited many of you are.  Super cool. 

[Xander Harris 8,878]

I saw it when it opened after seeing the trailer on DVD, and I was totally disappointed when the dinos started blabbing. Part of my interest in it was that Disney directly tied their 1998 Animal Kingdom ride 'Countdown to Extinction' at Disney World to the movie, incorporating the main good and bad dinos.

 

At this point, Disney is ridding themself of the movie. The ride is being changed to Indiana Jones and the surrounding area totally re-themed. This was probably the last time Intrada could put out a Dinosaur set. I know I've said nothing about JNH score, but it was fine judging just from the trailer alone.

[FBC Director 10,559]

I remember being impressed by the effects at the time, but the years weren't kind to the movie when I saw bits of it on telly about a decade later, and the visuals were already horribly outdated. I've forgotten what the movie was even about. I've had the OST for years and listened to it maybe twice – it's okay, but largely forgettable.

[Xander Harris 8,878]

Oddly I prefer the Dinosaur ride to the IJ one 

[Brando 2,703]

41 minutes ago, Andy said:

When this movie came out, I was 28. Not yet a parent, so it was too late for me and too early for my child, who was never into Dinos.  So I’ve never seen the film.  I do have the OST but I’m not sure I ever listened to the whole thing.  I wonder how it plays completely out of context. 
 

Still, I recognize how dear this is to people who enjoyed it in their formative years. I can imagine how excited many of you are.  Super cool. 

0:40 and onwards is one of the standout cues from the movie, and also the cinematography and flying shots are really cool

 

[FBC Director 10,559]

Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend is a better score anyway.

[mstrox 7,295]

This is one of the few JNH scores I own that I really dug.  I’m not sure that I’ve ever craved MORE of it, but I may pick this one up if the expansion is substantial and the samples speak to me.

[Thor 9,334]

6 hours ago, Andy said:

When this movie came out, I was 28. Not yet a parent, so it was too late for me and too early for my child, who was never into Dinos.

 

Same here, kinda. I was 23 or so when the film came out, so zero nostalgic connection to it. Didn't see it then. I've seen it once, a few years ago. But the score I liked from the get-go. Acquired the CD secondhand in the early 2000s, and it's been a top 10 JNH ever since. Of course, the OST is already an hour long, which is more than enough before you start watering stuff out. It also makes highlights like "The Egg Travels" stand out more.

 

Speaking of that cue, "The Egg Travels", I picked that as the background music for a scene in a theatre play I was in in the mid 2000s, for something completely different. Also saw the cue performed live in Ghent in the early 2010s, with JNH present. So pretty connected to that track.

 

OK, that was my DINOSAUR story, condensed.

[Richard P 5,060]

9 hours ago, Sunshine Reger said:

10 reasons to love this score:

 

1. best mickeymousing job ever done in a Disney film

2. best JW-style love theme not by JW

3. Courtship

4. Breakout

5. Across the Desert

6. the damn Egg Travels

7. main / hope theme

8. herd theme

9. asteroid motif

10. The slapping end credits suite

 

The only one of these points I'd disagree with is the main theme, which I've always felt was a little bit overrated compared to my tastes. The Egg Travels is wonderfully, superbly orchestrated and conceived though.

 

The stand out tracks for me are Inner Sanctum/Nesting Grounds, The End Of Our Island, They're All Gone, Raptors/Stand Together and Courtship.

 

I get a sense a heck of a lot of people are looking forward to the credits suite - it's a great piece. It also occurred to me that there may be alternates we don't know about.

 

It may not be an expansion I was craving, but it's a chance to craft a custom expanded score with hopefully a nice new transfer, so I'm very likely to buy this.

[Tallguy 6,587]

It's weird. On the one hand I was 31, sure. But OTOH I saw Mulan, Treasure Planet, and Atlantis in the theater. This just didn't grab me. "Lion King meets Jurassic Park" wasn't what I was looking for. AND this never found its way into my kids' rotation. (And it wasn't like I had an iron grip on what we watched. Ask me how many times I saw Hoodwinked.)

 

Well, the original is on Spotify. I guess I know what I'm doing today.

[Xander Harris 8,878]

10 hours ago, Unlucky Bastard said:

I remember being impressed by the effects at the time, but the years weren't kind to the movie when I saw bits of it on telly about a decade later, and the visuals were already horribly outdated. I've forgotten what the movie was even about. I've had the OST for years and listened to it maybe twice – it's okay, but largely forgettable.

 

Eisner probably thought it was a great idea to take the CGI from recent JP movies and make their own Land Before Time knockoff. But hey I'm sure it has a audience of zoomers who worship it like Shrek.

[Stark 834]

I just think this movie is ugly

[mstrox 7,295]

I never saw the movie until Disney+ rolled around and we had a kid, but it’s a bit of a nothing.  Like Thor, I’ve been into the score for a few decades now.  I had the album since the early aughts, as the end credits gripped me when I was cleaning movie theaters.

[tomsmoviemadness 4,573]

I grew up with this film. One of the first films I can remember seeing. Amd although I wasn't imto dinos I really loved the film. A big part of that was the score. This, together with a handful of other scores, was the first time I noticed the music in a film and never looked back since.

 

The Egg Travels is still in my Top 3 JNH cues and seeing it live with him conducting a few years back was phenomenal. So special.

So I'm very excited about this release!!

[The Score Cleaner 9,215]

On 30/08/2024 at 5:56 AM, Tallguy said:

Ask me how many times I saw Hoodwinked.

We're you prepared?

[Luke Skywalker 2,289]

On 29/08/2024 at 6:19 PM, Romão said:

 

Yes, specially for those living outside the US. Shipping costs are higher than ever and a few years ago, a package with a cd could quite often not be picked up by customs, while now, every single package, no matter how small or the value, always gets taxed.

 

So yeah, it's more expensive than it was, say, 10 years ago

I think Jay wanted to emphasize that you said 'these days' as if it was a very recent trend while it really started getting more and more expensive for (by the least)  5 or more years...