Popular Post Edmilson 9,134 Posted September 2 Popular Post Share Posted September 2 Although amazing, The Egg Travels is not the only great cue this fantastic score has. I love the Aladar and Neera love theme: This track is incredibly powerful and emotional, just JNH at the peak of his orchestral powers: Like The Egg Travels, this cue should be among the top 10 cues JNH ever wrote. I don't know if I love the Lion King-inspired first part or the more reflexive second part more, both are sooooo good. Muad'Dib, A. A. Ron, tomsmoviemadness and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A. A. Ron 1,953 Posted September 2 Popular Post Share Posted September 2 Aladar's hero theme is pretty great too. DemonStar, Brando and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,181 Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 The percussion and choir in The Courtship is soooo good Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DemonStar 69 Posted September 2 Popular Post Share Posted September 2 This is another favourite cue of mine from the score: I really love how the track opens with an eerie sense of mystery, wonder, and uncertainty, brimming with awe but just unsettling enough to know that something is not right. It then rises to a dramatic and sinister crescendo, followed by silence to underscore the impact of the giant meteor falling into the ocean. The action music that follows, with the thundering percussion and powerful horns, is among the finest JNH has ever written IMO. A. A. Ron, Yavar Moradi, Brando and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,871 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 4 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: I think Jay wanted to emphasize that you said 'these days' as if it was a very recent trend while it really started getting more and more expensive for (by the least) 5 or more years... Pedantic nitpicking. John Dutton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,304 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 It's so funny that this got announced right as I was in the midst of a mini Dinosaur kick. Been enjoying the score and even revisited the film. I'm looking forward to picking this up! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,160 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: Although amazing, The Egg Travels is not the only great cue this fantastic score has. I love the Aladar and Neera love theme: This track is incredibly powerful and emotional, just JNH at the peak of his orchestral powers: Like The Egg Travels, this cue should be among the top 10 cues JNH ever wrote. I don't know if I love the Lion King-inspired first part or the more reflexive second part more, both are sooooo good. Thank you for the excerpts and recommendations. Sounds all well crafted. But I really miss the hit tune in this. It's all very tonal and harmonic. But no real surprises or something that would stand the test of time and make it onto any greatest film themes of this or that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,953 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 14 hours ago, Unlucky Bastard said: Pedantic nitpicking. No, it was actually just funny, unless you're calling explaining the joke pedantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,871 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 3 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: No, it was actually just funny, unless you're calling explaining the joke pedantic. The latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 355 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 I'm curious if this will have any extra stuff that isn't in the bootleg/the film. Interestingly, some of the vocals are different between the film version/OST. I imagine this will be using the film versions but we'll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,970 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 5 hours ago, Unlucky Bastard said: The latter I dont know if i have to be offended or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trope 832 Posted September 4 Popular Post Share Posted September 4 Wow, listening to the OST based on all the glowing recommendations and this is really great stuff! I noticed the vocal sample at 1:32 in "The Courtship" is the same as the one used by Goldsmith in The Ghost and the Darkness (many, many, many times)! HODJE Newton Howard.mp3 HODJE Goldsmith.mp3 Incanus, GerateWohl, Once and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,401 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Yep, I also did a triple take on my last listen crumbs and Trope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,876 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I'm pretty sure the original plan was for Goldsmith to score it. It has temp-track love all over. Great score btw I'm pretty sure the original plan was for Goldsmith to score it. It has temp-track love all over. Great score btw crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,160 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 5 hours ago, Trope said: Wow, listening to the OST based on all the glowing recommendations and this is really great stuff! I noticed the vocal sample at 1:32 in "The Courtship" is the same as the one used by Goldsmith in The Ghost and the Darkness (many, many, many times)! HODJE Newton Howard.mp3 139.71 kB · 64 downloads HODJE Goldsmith.mp3 235.63 kB · 60 downloads It will become the Wilhelm scream of movie scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 4,569 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Man. I love JNH. And I'm sure I'll listen to this eventually and love it as much as everyone else does. (Wyatt Earp is one of my favorite discoveries of the last five years.) But the idea that we could have had a THIRD Jerry Goldsmith animated score is a heartbreaking loss to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,871 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 7 minutes ago, Tallguy said: But the idea that we could have had a THIRD Jerry Goldsmith animated score is a heartbreaking loss to me. Seems he dodged a bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 4,569 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 30 minutes ago, Unlucky Bastard said: Seems he dodged a bullet. This is Jerry we're talking about. The man was riddled with bullets. And the quality of a movie has never determined the quality of a Jerry score. Yavar Moradi and ThePenitentMan1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Train Station 8,871 Posted September 4 Popular Post Share Posted September 4 Jerry only ever scored decent movies. Kasey Kockroach, A. A. Ron, Stark and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,269 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I saw this way back probably around uni and thought it was a pleasant film, at least. Certainly not something that a composer like JNH would look at and lament that it was terrible. Certainly, Goldsmith never let on musically that he was scoring a piece of crap, but I'd be curious about whether JNH has any negative opinions on all the modern thriller stuff he's done, or if he sees something in these films that I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 8,505 Posted September 4 Popular Post Share Posted September 4 38 minutes ago, Unlucky Bastard said: Jerry only ever scored decent movies. Kasey Kockroach, Yavar Moradi and Trope 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,871 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 3,031 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 2 hours ago, Tallguy said: But the idea that we could have had a THIRD Jerry Goldsmith animated score is a heartbreaking loss to me. Yavar Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,134 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Certainly not something that a composer like JNH would look at and lament that it was terrible. Well, compared with The Last Airbender Dinosaur is like Citizen Kane And even in that case JNH seemed to enjoy working in that movie. He seems such a nice and professional guy, willing to do all he cans to at least try to make a movie a little better with his music, no matter how ungrateful that task can be when he's doing crap like TLA or Snow White and the Huntsman or whatever. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,269 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 In an interview a while back he said he thought The Postman was a terrible movie, but that didn't stop him supplying an excellent score and a great album - a slightly more introspective evocation of the West. It sounded like when he finds himself doing a bad movie, he sees it as his role to try to help the director to improve it. Yavar Moradi and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 4,569 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 53 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Yavar Clearly this is an obvious through line directly to The Secret of NIHM and Mulan! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 3,031 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 55 minutes ago, Tallguy said: Clearly this is an obvious through line directly to The Secret of NIHM and Mulan! Well, give it a listen — it’s honestly a pretty serious and excellent score. And the animated section of it demonstrates a similar Goldsmith philosophy to NIMH and Mulan: score animation similarly to live action. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,639 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 10 hours ago, Trope said: Wow, listening to the OST based on all the glowing recommendations and this is really great stuff! I noticed the vocal sample at 1:32 in "The Courtship" is the same as the one used by Goldsmith in The Ghost and the Darkness (many, many, many times)! HODJE Newton Howard.mp3 139.71 kB · 229 downloads HODJE Goldsmith.mp3 235.63 kB · 232 downloads Oh yeh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,369 Posted September 6 Popular Post Share Posted September 6 This one was always film music junk food. Probably not very good for you, not much substance, but sometimes you want to hear an egg travel. One of my earliest soundtrack acquirements, so I was a basic bitch even back then. The Train Station, GerateWohl, mstrox and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,904 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 On 04/09/2024 at 8:22 PM, Muad'Dib said: I'm pretty sure the original plan was for Goldsmith to score it. It has temp-track love all over. Great score btw I'm pretty sure the original plan was for Goldsmith to score it. It has temp-track love all over. Great score btw If you'd repeated this just one more time, it would've been a perfect follow-up to that Ghost in the Darkness clip posted above Muad'Dib, Andy and Trope 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,876 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 6 hours ago, crumbs said: If you'd repeated this just one more time, it would've been a perfect follow-up to that Ghost in the Darkness clip posted above Whoopsie i hadn't noticed it was repeated 😅 crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,304 Posted September 6 Popular Post Share Posted September 6 14 hours ago, Kasey Kockroach said: This one was always film music junk food. Probably not very good for you, not much substance, but sometimes you want to hear an egg travel. One of my earliest soundtrack acquirements, so I was a basic bitch even back then. Gonna strongly disagree with you there. There are actual melodies. Counterpoint. Tonalities beyond basic triads. There's restraint and subtlety in the quieter passages. Good mixture of music that hits the action and music that plays through. Maybe my standards have just been lowered by the blandness of the contemporary film score landscape, but I'd hardly call it junk food. Thor, A. A. Ron, Edmilson and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,953 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Yeah this really isn't a score for "basic bitches." You're thinking of Back to the Future. Doo_liss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,160 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 10 hours ago, Datameister said: Gonna strongly disagree with you there. There are actual melodies. Counterpoint. Tonalities beyond basic triads. There's restraint and subtlety in the quieter passages. Good mixture of music that hits the action and music that plays through. Maybe my standards have just been lowered by the blandness of the contemporary film score landscape, but I'd hardly call it junk food. It is. I mean, the score is all you are saying. But harmonically and melodywise there is not much interesting going on. It doesn't really have what I would call a memorable evergreen hit theme. Kasey Kockroach and Evanus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,639 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 23 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: Yeah this really isn't a score for "basic bitches." You're thinking of Back to the Future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,369 Posted September 7 Popular Post Share Posted September 7 10 hours ago, Datameister said: Gonna strongly disagree with you there. There are actual melodies. Counterpoint. Tonalities beyond basic triads. There's restraint and subtlety in the quieter passages. Good mixture of music that hits the action and music that plays through. Maybe my standards have just been lowered by the blandness of the contemporary film score landscape, but I'd hardly call it junk food. That’s called fulfilling the bare minimum. Which, yes, isn’t expected from Hollywood film scores currently. The Train Station, GerateWohl and mstrox 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,304 Posted September 7 Popular Post Share Posted September 7 1 hour ago, GerateWohl said: It is. I mean, the score is all you are saying. But harmonically and melodywise there is not much interesting going on. It doesn't really have what I would call a memorable evergreen hit theme. And therein lies the subjectivity of musical tastes. For me, it's a very memorable score that elevates the film and is a joy to listen to on its own. When @Kasey Kockroach says "junk food", I think of hyperpalatability. You look for broadly appealing qualities that can be easily and cheaply mass-produced, and then you crank them to 11, at the expense of other qualities like complexity and subtlety and originality. Of course, food's primary purpose is to keep our bodies healthy, whereas music's primary purpose is to feel good. Actual junk food is bad for your health. Musical junk food isn't. Yavar Moradi, Brando and Evanus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,639 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Musical junk food is bad for your mental health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,505 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 12 hours ago, Datameister said: Gonna strongly disagree with you there. There are actual melodies. Counterpoint. Tonalities beyond basic triads. There's restraint and subtlety in the quieter passages. Good mixture of music that hits the action and music that plays through. Maybe my standards have just been lowered by the blandness of the contemporary film score landscape, but I'd hardly call it junk food. I have to agree with this. There's no musical "junk food" in DINOSAUR, even if it's a fairly light adventure sound in the scheme of things. There's a lot of sophistication going on. Yavar Moradi and Evanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,160 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 J̌unk food might not be the right term, but rather a high standard off the shelf default score with flat placeholder themes with the label "to be replaced by memorable theme". But there wasn't enough time or inspiration. Jurassic Shark and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 8,505 Posted September 7 Popular Post Share Posted September 7 39 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: J̌unk food might not be the right term, but rather a high standard off the shelf default score with flat placeholder themes with the label "to be replaced by memorable theme". But there wasn't enough time or inspiration. But nothing like that applies to DINOSAUR. Sunshine Reger, Yavar Moradi and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,269 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Dinosaur... a default score with placeholder themes? Wow. The musical elitism on occasional display here is astounding. What happened to respecting differing tastes? That's before we get to this ridiculous 'junk food' suggestion. TSMefford and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,160 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 3 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: What happened to respecting differing tastes? Don't ask, just do it. Like me. 11 minutes ago, Thor said: But nothing like that applies to DINOSAUR. Right. Dinosaurs are great. But it applies to the score of the movie of the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 13,365 Posted September 7 Popular Post Share Posted September 7 12 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Like me. We do like you, bro! 12 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Dinosaurs are great. They're all dead. Andy, Kasey Kockroach and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 5,160 Posted September 7 Popular Post Share Posted September 7 "You need a better dinosaur for this." Jurassic Shark, Andy and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,505 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 22 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Right. Dinosaurs are great. But it applies to the score of the movie of the same name. No. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,160 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Yes. It does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,365 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 C'mon guys, let's find something we can all agree on. Giacchino is overrated. Stark, SilasGupta and A. A. Ron 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,871 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Jerry Goldsmith is superior to John Williams. Stark, Jurassic Shark and Yavar Moradi 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,953 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 3 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Yes. It does. No it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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