emrikrev 0 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 People often refer to Hans Zimmer as the greatest film composer of all time. Lion King, Inception are very well known films and soundtracks. John Williams however has as of 2024 composed 124 soundtracks and been nominated for an Oscar 54 times. He has written the soundtracks of our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Train Station 8,680 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 Hahn Zilliams John Dutton, emrikrev and Trope 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,912 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 40 minutes ago, emrikrev said: People often refer to Hans Zimmer as the greatest film composer of all time. People as in redditors or youtube commentors on one cue from Interstellar. Loert, Brando, enderdrag64 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 8,358 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 Gonna give a robotic answer to this: Both are brilliant, for very different reasons. You would need far more specific parameters to make any kind of meaningful comparison. You seem to be using commercial success as a defining factor (which doesn't say anything about their artistic merit), and even that would take some serious research, and - again - compatible parameters. ThePenitentMan1, DemonStar, Stark and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 3,414 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 This is like going on a forum devoted to hamburgers and asking, "What's better? Hamburgers or hot dogs?". toothless, MaxMovieMan, Stark and 11 others 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stark 556 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 I think they’re incomparable; far too many differences in style at almost every level. They happen to both be in my pool of favorites. ThePenitentMan1, DemonStar, Thor and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 11 minutes ago, Stark said: I think they’re incomparable; far too many differences in style at almost every level. They happen to both be in my pool of favorites. Same here. Williams is first, Zimmer is second on my top 10. I've become immune to the immense Zimmer hatred that pervades this forum, although it still irritates me when they post in the appreciation thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Dutton 7,380 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, emrikrev said: People often refer to Hans Zimmer as the greatest film composer of all time. What people? Davis, Yavar Moradi and pete 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 3,414 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 minute ago, John Dutton said: What people? "Well, I mean, let's face it. You're not exactly normal, are you?" Cameron007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LSH 1,049 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 They are both ‘designed’ for very different things. In fact, I cannot think of a single project one of them did that the other would have been more preferable for. Stark, ThePenitentMan1, Drawgoon and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,926 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 22 minutes ago, John Dutton said: What people? Those that post "Hans Zimmer is the "BEST COMPOSER EVAH!" on Youtube, Reddit and Twitter. Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 439 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 24 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: "Well, I mean, let's face it. You're not exactly normal, are you?" It’s not exactly a normal world, is it? Cameron007 and Mr. Hooper 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,162 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 45 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: This is like going on a forum devoted to hamburgers and asking, "What's better? Hamburgers or hot dogs?". And then some user, let's call him Mr. Pooper, will start the Hamburger Disenchantment Thread. 3 minutes ago, NL197 said: It’s not exactly a normal world, is it? It's the only world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 5,041 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 Jurassic Shark, Holko, Bellosh and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 439 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 46 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: And then some user, let's call him Mr. Pooper, will start the Hamburger Disenchantment Thread. It's the only world. Wait, that's not the line! You're supposed to say "why did you bring me here?" Mr. Hooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 556 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, LSH said: They are both ‘designed’ for very different things. In fact, I cannot think of a single project one of them did that the other would have been more preferable for. This is a fascinating question to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drawgoon 109 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 To be able to tell if one film composer is better than the other, they need to anonymously score the same film, under similar conditions. Smeltington, Jurassic Shark, Davis and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 No pressure Drawgoon and John Dutton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,900 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 The real question is, who is the better composer, John Williams or Lorne Balfe? Trope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 82 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Let them fight. CatastrophicJones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 3,414 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 1 minute ago, ManofDestiny said: Let them fight. We need @BB-8 to work his magic and Photoshop us a picture of JW as Godzilla fighting HZ as a MUTO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Train Station 8,680 Posted October 8 Popular Post Share Posted October 8 5 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: We need @BB-8 to work his magic and Photoshop us a picture of JW as Godzilla fighting HZ as a MUTO... Zimmer would be Ghidorah because his other two heads are the ghostwriters. Mr. Hooper, Edmilson, Davis and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,623 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Hello hello, what’s this thread now? *brings pizza* Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,279 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Zimmer? Williams? Never heard of 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 1,330 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,937 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said: We need @BB-8 to work his magic and Photoshop us a picture of JW as Godzilla fighting HZ as a MUTO... I have asked our treasured friend "DALL-E mini" for some help with this (not wasting more time in this thread): Holko and Mr. Hooper 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Fuel for the Brody thread Mr. Hooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DarthDementous 1,228 Posted October 8 Popular Post Share Posted October 8 If I had to compare them in terms of influence over the film music industry I would pick John Williams as encouraging the sort of sensibilities I would much rather see amplified today, compared to Zimmer Bayesian, Loert, Mr. Hooper and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,937 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 ...missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,433 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 21 hours ago, Davis said: The real question is, who is the better composer, John Williams or Lorne Balfe? This is so triggering. The only two words other than Hans Zimmer that don’t belong within twenty miles—no, twenty time zones—of JW. Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 132 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 both are great composers! BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 3,414 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 19 hours ago, Chen G. said: Hello hello, what’s this thread now? *brings pizza* We're trying to figure out who the six people are that voted for Zimmer, so we can paddle them until they recant—or else strip them of their forum membership. BB-8 and Davis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Train Station 8,680 Posted October 8 Popular Post Share Posted October 8 When you're referring to a piece of music credited to John Williams, you can be fairly sure he actually wrote it. But when you're listening to a form of audio credited to Hans Zimmer, who really wrote it? Some staffer? DarthDementous, Bayesian and Davis 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 5,139 Posted October 8 Popular Post Share Posted October 8 It is not really a fair comparison. One is a composer and the other is a guitarist. BB-8, Davis, Loert and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Train Station 8,680 Posted October 9 Popular Post Share Posted October 9 22 minutes ago, Tom said: It is not really a fair comparison. One is a composer and the other is a guitarist. CatastrophicJones, ThePenitentMan1, BB-8 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 3,414 Posted October 9 Popular Post Share Posted October 9 2 minutes ago, The Train Station said: I thought playing an electric guitar could make anyone look cool... Guess I was wrong. Bayesian, DarthDementous and Davis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,926 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 39 minutes ago, The Train Station said: When you're referring to a piece of music credited to John Williams, you can be fairly sure he actually wrote it. But when you're listening to a form of audio credited to Hans Zimmer, who really wrote it? Some staffer? This is a question that has been plaguing me ever since me as a teenager thought "hey, this Hans guy writes some awesome music! I'm gonna Google his name so I can find out more about him! Wait... What does this site mean by "additional music by Klaus Badelt, Ramin Djawadi, etc"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 11 minutes ago, Edmilson said: This is a question that has been plaguing me ever since me as a teenager thought "hey, this Hans guy writes some awesome music! I'm gonna Google his name so I can find out more about him! Wait... What does this site mean by "additional music by Klaus Badelt, Ramin Djawadi, etc"? And then if I find out a certain track within a Hans Zimmer score was really written by one of these other guys, I end up wondering how it might have sounded if Zimmer just did it himself instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 1,330 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 One writes art music, and the other writes (for his part) new-age soundscapes. As I've said before, I think Zimmer knows what he's doing, and does it well-enough, he just doesn't happen to know very much, and put up against the stupidly learned scores of John Williams, he sounds like a my-first-casio jam-band-accountant, the Yanni of film composers. If both their names did not appear in the credits of films, the comparison wouldn't even occur to us to make. HunterTech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicJones 62 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 On 07/10/2024 at 10:44 PM, ManofDestiny said: Let them fight. The ultimate cage match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 3,414 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 43 minutes ago, Schilkeman said: the Yanni of film composers Drawgoon and BB-8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,937 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 6 hours ago, Tom said: It is not really a fair comparison. One is a composer and the other is a guitarist. One is a genius and the other a sound engineer commissioned by the German car industry. Trope and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 1,330 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 8 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said: I don’t. He managed to turn his brand of Ross Geller fusion into a very successful enterprise. He is to classical what Kenny G is to jazz. They both seem like alright dudes, it’s just not what I come to music for. Mr. Hooper and Drawgoon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Yanni is one of my guilty pleasures. He has some good stuff inbetween the cheesy. Drawgoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 3,414 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Laurel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,937 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 I wish he had told this to BMW regarding these motor sounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,162 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 For @Thor. https://www.nrk.no/video/660fe1b1-5b0b-4200-90c4-d32224df2ba5 On 08/10/2024 at 5:45 AM, Chen G. said: Hello hello, what’s this thread now? *brings pizza* Sorry, there's no Ring talk here... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,041 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 18 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: For @Thor. https://www.nrk.no/video/660fe1b1-5b0b-4200-90c4-d32224df2ba5 What are they saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,162 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 The one on the left is tired of seeing Zimmer's name everywhere, while the one on the right kind of likes Zimmer. A bit like me and Thor you could say. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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